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Apr 13, 2018 11:10:56   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Does your small college not have any video or film classes?

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Apr 13, 2018 11:40:58   #
James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA
 
cidbearit wrote:
Thanks for the heads up on that...I was completely unaware of that issue.


Yep. I shoot a fair amount of video with still cameras, The limitation isn't USUALLY an issue as my "films" are made of scenes that are only a few minutes long. But if I think that I'll shoot longer scenes than 10-15 minutes, I use a camcorder.

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Apr 13, 2018 11:43:10   #
James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA
 
sirlensalot wrote:
Suggest having college purchase a video camera and external mike or two. DSLR's will not do the job of set and forget. Video cameras will record as long as you have power to them.
Tacstar mic's getting good reviews for a fraction of any Rode mic. The other side of the coin is putting a system together that will last for years to come.
Just had a bunch of 8MM films transferred to digital. No sound - felt like I missed the heart if the movie. Sound is critical, at least as much as video.


Sound can make or break a "movie", Sometimes it's tge most important part!

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Apr 13, 2018 12:04:39   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
James Slick wrote:
Sound can make or break a "movie", Sometimes it's tge most important part!


đź‘Ťđź‘Ť Absolutely!

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Apr 13, 2018 14:44:29   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
cidbearit wrote:
I work at a small college and at our commencement meeting today I was asked to look into putting together a system to stream our graduation ceremony live (probably on Facebook Live). We are a small college operating on a very tight budget, hence the guy with camera equipment got tapped to look into this. I've done a lot of still photography, but very little video. And have never streamed video. I'd appreciate some input as far as what gear might be best for me to use. Any other advice (settings, etc.) would be appreciated.

I have a Nikon D7100 and a Nikon D500. As far as lenses I think would work, I have a Sigma DC 17-50mm 2.8 EX HSM, Tamron 70-200 2.8 USD SP A009 Di, and a Nikon DX 55-300mm 4.5-5.6G ED HRI. I also have Nikon 35 and 50 primes.

Expectations of video output isn't too high...nobody is expecting cinema quality video. We just think it would be nice to stream for those who can't be there. The commencement will be on a formal stage in a theatre with ample lighting. Camera will be set up on a tripod, and will likely be in a "set it and forget it" mode (unmonitored). It will focus on the podium where the speakers will be and where diplomas will be distributed. I'll run an AC adapter to the camera, so I won't need to worry about batteries. At this point I'm not worried about sound, just the video aspect.

Any productive thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
I work at a small college and at our commencement ... (show quote)



There is significant risk in the unattended plan. AC power plugs can slip out, someone can trip over the tripod or power cord, all manner of crises.
Find a responsible student to be there and keep a sharp eye on the viewfinder. Also make sure you have enough memory to record the full length of the event. >Alan

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Apr 13, 2018 16:03:34   #
Photocraig
 
Skiextreme2 wrote:
Check with your local Time Warner Cable company and see if they have a community cable station (or look up -your town- community cable on the net). Ours does and if needed, I can get TV quality video cameras to use for local events. You may have to "join" but it would be worth it. If that is not available, consider looking for a rental.


Excellent. It is the PUBLIC in Public TV. Beyond the Government funding, of course.

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Apr 13, 2018 19:48:41   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
cidbearit wrote:
I work at a small college and at our commencement meeting today I was asked to look into putting together a system to stream our graduation ceremony live (probably on Facebook Live). We are a small college operating on a very tight budget, hence the guy with camera equipment got tapped to look into this. I've done a lot of still photography, but very little video. And have never streamed video. I'd appreciate some input as far as what gear might be best for me to use. Any other advice (settings, etc.) would be appreciated.

I have a Nikon D7100 and a Nikon D500. As far as lenses I think would work, I have a Sigma DC 17-50mm 2.8 EX HSM, Tamron 70-200 2.8 USD SP A009 Di, and a Nikon DX 55-300mm 4.5-5.6G ED HRI. I also have Nikon 35 and 50 primes.

Expectations of video output isn't too high...nobody is expecting cinema quality video. We just think it would be nice to stream for those who can't be there. The commencement will be on a formal stage in a theatre with ample lighting. Camera will be set up on a tripod, and will likely be in a "set it and forget it" mode (unmonitored). It will focus on the podium where the speakers will be and where diplomas will be distributed. I'll run an AC adapter to the camera, so I won't need to worry about batteries. At this point I'm not worried about sound, just the video aspect.

Any productive thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
I work at a small college and at our commencement ... (show quote)


Forget your dSLR. As others noted, it either shuts off due to heat, or by design, to avoid a tariff restriction, in 12 to 30 minutes.

The Lumix GH4, GH5, and GH5s mirrorless cameras from Panasonic record until the memory card(s) are full, or the battery dies, whichever comes first. A GH5 with AC adapter can record indefinitely if you swap out each card in its dual slots.

The GH5 is also equipped with proper audio inputs, level controls, peak limiters, meters... it can be used with an adapter to connect pro audio mics or sound boards.

Get a mic within three feet of the sound source. If you understand the “inverse square law,” you know why — at ten feet, you have only ONE PERCENT of the sound you had at one foot, and the background noise is 100 times louder. (That’s why it sounds so bad!)

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Apr 13, 2018 20:44:00   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
cabunit wrote:
Not sure "set it and forget it" will work. Both Nikon DSLRs I have will record only 20 minute clips at a time, then you must hit the record button again. (One source says this is to keep them from being classified as "video cameras" which are subject to different import rules.) I seem to remember (but can't locate now in any of my searches) an accessory that would let you record continuously. Perhaps another UHHer can shed some light. Good luck!


I agree with this. There are a lot of things to consider when doing a long video. Canon DSLR's will only shoot for 29 minutes of video.

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Apr 13, 2018 23:44:45   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
jeep_daddy wrote:
I agree with this. There are a lot of things to consider when doing a long video. Canon DSLR's will only shoot for 29 minutes of video.


Some of the older Canons would overheat in 12 minutes, shut down, and remain useless for a while after that. Heat has always been an annoyance. The Nikon D5 can record only a few minutes of 4K video before it croaks.

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Apr 14, 2018 05:47:04   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
burkphoto wrote:
Forget your dSLR. As others noted, it either shuts off due to heat, or by design, to avoid a tariff restriction, in 12 to 30 minutes.

The Lumix GH4, GH5, and GH5s mirrorless cameras from Panasonic record until the memory card(s) are full, or the battery dies, whichever comes first. A GH5 with AC adapter can record indefinitely if you swap out each card in its dual slots.

The GH5 is also equipped with proper audio inputs, level controls, peak limiters, meters... it can be used with an adapter to connect pro audio mics or sound boards.

Get a mic within three feet of the sound source. If you understand the “inverse square law,” you know why — at ten feet, you have only ONE PERCENT of the sound you had at one foot, and the background noise is 100 times louder. (That’s why it sounds so bad!)
Forget your dSLR. As others noted, it either shuts... (show quote)


^^^
What Burk said.
There’s lots of used GH4’s on the market now that the GH5 is out.

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Apr 14, 2018 06:41:28   #
ToBoldlyGo Loc: London U.K.
 
I've done the odd Facebook live stream, and have only found an option to stream from my phone, not an external source. Am I missing something here? Perhaps a computer can accept inputs to do so? Anyone here done this?

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Apr 14, 2018 09:13:57   #
Skiextreme2 Loc: Northwest MA
 
ToBoldlyGo wrote:
I've done the odd Facebook live stream, and have only found an option to stream from my phone, not an external source. Am I missing something here? Perhaps a computer can accept inputs to do so? Anyone here done this?


From a computer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggtGgdKKkpI

From a video or dsl camera - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8TvG3a5XJY

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Apr 14, 2018 11:21:39   #
ToBoldlyGo Loc: London U.K.
 
Skiextreme2 wrote:


Ah, thanks for that.

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Apr 14, 2018 11:48:30   #
mrtaxi Loc: Old Westbury NY, Fort Lauderdale, FL
 
Using a DSLR for graduation video. You need to deal with dslr shut down limitations every 19-29 minutes. Overheating. Zooming requires manual refocus they do not autofocus properly in video. Sound is critical and you will need an off camera mic and amp- in camera mic and in camera Amps are poor quality in even the highest end FF camera of all makes. I suggest you get an experience person who shoots video with s DSLR and s sound guy or just borrow or rent a video camera that overcomes not all but most of the above issues. DSLR video is always best in Manual and manual focus using with off camera monitor and preset focus stops for lens with on or off camera focus gear. Many have s separate person pulling focus! Also test everything in advance including your streaming service.

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May 12, 2018 21:38:00   #
cidbearit Loc: Canton, MI, USA
 
Posting an update.

Thanks to all who replied to my original post. After reading everything here, I decided my best option was purchasing a new video camera (GAS attack). After looking at what fit my budget and my needs, I purchased, as a refurb from B&H, the Panasonic HC-WXF991K. I did my homework on livestreaming on Facebook, and got everything set up.

Commencement was today, and here is the result https://www.facebook.com/Marygrove.College/videos/10156480606457193/?t=433 . In addition to the stream, I also set up the stage lighting and the sound. I fed from the soundboard via three linked-together patch cords straight to the camera, so there is some degradation to the sound, but all-in-all, I'm pleased with the results. I'm seated on the stage to the right in the third row (big guy with the grey hair), so I wasn't managing the feed realtime, but I did have my phone out checking it while the ceremonies progressed.

Again, thank you all for your input!

Dennis

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