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Apr 11, 2018 16:25:42   #
Raz Theo Loc: Music City
 
pmorin wrote:
The only prep is to clean the lens I’m going to use, new battery, one spare. Bring CPL just in case. Set Camera to high speed shutter ISO auto, WB to match conditions, f 7.1 or f8 to start depending on lighting. I have tried tri/mono pods but they just get in the way on my walks. So it is hand held that works best for me. Birds never stay in one spot, so you should not either unless you have a small area where they congregate. As to location, I just walk out my door and head out for whatever time frame suits me that day. It’s nice being retired.
I use my Canon 7DII and a ef70-300 mm IS II USM lens. It is crystal clear when I get the settings right for the light and type of bird. White birds are the toughest. I am experimenting in ETR when shooting BIF and have had some successes there.
I guess I am lucky to live here in So-Cal where the beach is a short walk away, and when we are in the Desert there are so many small Songbirds and other interesting wildlife to capture.
And try to remember the tag line from the movie Galaxy Quest.
Never Give Up! Never Surrender!
The only prep is to clean the lens I’m going to us... (show quote)


porin, thanks for the detailed info and the pep talk.

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Apr 11, 2018 16:26:42   #
Raz Theo Loc: Music City
 
Raz Theo wrote:
porin, thanks for the detailed info and the pep talk.


That's "pmorin". Sorry.

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Apr 11, 2018 16:28:36   #
Raz Theo Loc: Music City
 
rook2c4 wrote:
For a truly constructive dialogue, it may be better to narrow down the thread topic to one or two specific questions, rather than so many questions all at once.


I wasn't asking anyone to answer everything - it's multiple choice.
Thanks.

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Apr 11, 2018 16:30:57   #
Raz Theo Loc: Music City
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Steve Perry on UHH:
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/user-profile?usernum=60547

Birds in Flight/Birds on Water forum, on UHH:
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-112-1.html

Other accomplished bird photographers on UHH include:
martinfisherphoto
and
gregoryd45

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Good leads. Thanks much.

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Apr 11, 2018 16:33:57   #
Raz Theo Loc: Music City
 
BassmanBruce wrote:
I use a tripod/gimbal with my 150-500mm and monopod or handhold my 120-400mm.
I always try to set up with the wind and sun at my back. Birds very commonly land and takeoff into the wind and if they are flying towards me they are slowed relative to me. If they are flying with the wind they’re likely moving to fast for this old goat anyway! Lol!
Also many birds have their most colorfull plumage in mating season so knowing the when and where of that can help.
Don’t give up, even when I fail it’s a blast.
I use a tripod/gimbal with my 150-500mm and monopo... (show quote)

Great advice. You're suggesting a lot of common sense which sometimes elude me. You pointed out at least two areas I've been negligent about.
Thanks for the detailed help.

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Apr 12, 2018 06:08:09   #
jccash Loc: Longwood, Florida
 
Raz Theo wrote:
Before I give up on achieving the kind of quality BIF I see on this site, I would like a general discussion on how each of you go about your BIF craft.
Examples:
How do you prepare?
How much time you invest depending on what you are planning?
Go to location early? Sit on a chair, a rock or lock knees?
Your preference for tripod, monopod, handheld, heads?
Your handling of "complicated" wooded scenes vs "unencumbered" environments (seaside; riverside, etc.)?
Your most successful settings? Your equipment?
Whether you backpack your way in or shoot from your Jeep?

Well you get the idea. Any input would be more than appreciated and thank you in advance.
Before I give up on achieving the kind of quality ... (show quote)


I use the Nikon D500 with the 200-500mm lens. F5.6 for the most part. 1/800 or so. Play with exposure. VR on. Monopod sometimes. Here is an image I captured of a Hawk in my front yard. No time to set up. Saw the Hawk when I came home from work. Ran inside grabbed my D500 with the 200-500 and took the image from my front porch. Second shot take out of my truck window when I saw the Awspry sitting in a tree. Third picture taken as I was visiting Orlando Wetland. Last shot is of my rig.









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Apr 12, 2018 06:15:33   #
SkyKing Loc: Thompson Ridge, NY
 
Raz Theo wrote:
Before I give up on achieving the kind of quality BIF I see on this site, I would like a general discussion on how each of you go about your BIF craft.
Examples:
How do you prepare?
How much time you invest depending on what you are planning?
Go to location early? Sit on a chair, a rock or lock knees?
Your preference for tripod, monopod, handheld, heads?
Your handling of "complicated" wooded scenes vs "unencumbered" environments (seaside; riverside, etc.)?
Your most successful settings? Your equipment?
Whether you backpack your way in or shoot from your Jeep?

Well you get the idea. Any input would be more than appreciated and thank you in advance.
Before I give up on achieving the kind of quality ... (show quote)


Radnar Lake State Park is preparing for the spring bird migration...and join the national chapter of the Tennessee Ornithological Society...start from there and everything else will fall into place...!

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Apr 12, 2018 06:21:53   #
shutterhawk Loc: Cape Cod
 
A lot of people have offered up good advice here so I won't repeat what's already been gone over. I'd just like to comment on the "how much time do you spend" part of your inquiry. If you're going to get seriously into bird in flight you need to develop insane levels of patience. Birds aren't actors who will perform on cue. They do what they do, not necessarily what you want them to due. Your photo op/ window of opportunity is never going to be more than a very few seconds and you may wait hours for those precious seconds. Make yourself as comfortable as possible (I have a small folding camp chair that helps) and enjoy the fresh air.

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Apr 12, 2018 06:40:09   #
SafariGuy
 
chats005 wrote:
BIF?


Birds-in-flight

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Apr 12, 2018 06:52:14   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Raz Theo wrote:
Before I give up on achieving the kind of quality BIF I see on this site, I would like a general discussion on how each of you go about your BIF craft.
Examples:
How do you prepare?
How much time you invest depending on what you are planning?
Go to location early? Sit on a chair, a rock or lock knees?
Your preference for tripod, monopod, handheld, heads?
Your handling of "complicated" wooded scenes vs "unencumbered" environments (seaside; riverside, etc.)?
Your most successful settings? Your equipment?
Whether you backpack your way in or shoot from your Jeep?

Well you get the idea. Any input would be more than appreciated and thank you in advance.
Before I give up on achieving the kind of quality ... (show quote)


By the term BIF, I assume we are talking about Birds in Flight?
If so,I use a Nikon D500 and a Nikon 200-500 lens.
My settings are, continuous Auto Focus, 10 frames a second, Center Weighted Metering, F6.3, I shoot at a minimum shutter speed of 1/2500 sec. I also use GROUP AUTO FOCUS and use the center focusing spot, Nikon then picks four spots around that one for a total of 5 focus spots. I keep the bird in the middle of my viewfinder as I track it. My keep rate using this is about 98%. I always hand hold because the action is close and fast, a mono pod or tripod would slow me down and my keep rate would fall off fast.



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Apr 12, 2018 06:59:19   #
foathog Loc: Greensboro, NC
 
chats005 wrote:
BIF?


Apparently you won't be answering this one. LOL

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Apr 12, 2018 07:02:27   #
Jerrin1 Loc: Wolverhampton, England
 
Raz Theo wrote:
Before I give up on achieving the kind of quality BIF I see on this site, I would like a general discussion on how each of you go about your BIF craft.
Examples:
How do you prepare?
How much time you invest depending on what you are planning?
Go to location early? Sit on a chair, a rock or lock knees?
Your preference for tripod, monopod, handheld, heads?
Your handling of "complicated" wooded scenes vs "unencumbered" environments (seaside; riverside, etc.)?
Your most successful settings? Your equipment?
Whether you backpack your way in or shoot from your Jeep?

Well you get the idea. Any input would be more than appreciated and thank you in advance.
Before I give up on achieving the kind of quality ... (show quote)


Blimey, where to start! Well, as previously stated, Steve Perry knows what he is talking about and has a YouTube channel full of dead good videos. The problem is, you have not outlined your current kit or what, exactly, in the way of BIF you want to photograph. Kit can be quite a big factor: despite what some say about it being the person behind the camera, not the camera itself - well I'd like to see them take BIF shots with a Kodak Instamatic or Brownie 127. I use a Nikon D500 and either a Nikkor 300mm f3 PF VR + TC14EIII or Nikkor 200 - 500mm f5.6 and an Olympus EM1 mark II + Oly 300mm f4 (both with and without a 1.4TC). Depending on the available light I will set a shutter speed of 1/2000th, aperture f8, auto ISO and, depending on the colouration of the bird +/- 0.3 - 0.7 stops of compensation (in general). I will drop down to a shutter speed of 1/1250th if I feel the ISO is too high, or open the aperture to f4/5.6 - there are many variables. It is rare that I can ever go up to 1/3200th, as it's never that bright where I live. Some photographers like to have a blurr on the wingtips to show motion but I prefer to freeze the action. Once you have your camera set up, if you have a local park with a pond/lake practice on big slow stuff like geese, swans, herons etc., then move up to pigeons and ducks. Practice panning with these birds until you are happy with your results. Once you have it sorted go out into the bondhu and try your hand with some proper wild stuff. Manage your expectations; I've been doing this stuff for some time and it isn't always easy. Photographing swallows can be a real bugger because they are so fast, so it's just a case of practice. Generally, I just walk for about 7 hours and photograph BIF as I go along. I only bother with a tripod and gimbal when I'm in a hide (blind) at a waterfowl place and know the flightpaths. Good luck.

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Apr 12, 2018 07:03:28   #
fourg1b2006 Loc: Long Island New York
 
I'm sure everyone will have a different way of doing this. Hope you get what your looking for.

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Apr 12, 2018 07:03:47   #
Tom M Loc: 77429
 
I don't know if anyone already mentioned it, but I use 'back-button focus' and in AFC (continuous auto focus) mode. I also have been having better luck using 'Manual' with auto ISO (TAv for fellow Pentax users), keeping the speed up around 1/1000 s and aperture pretty much wide open (5.6 on my kit lens). I also highly recommend getting Steve Perry's eBook "Secrets to Stunning Wildlife Photography".

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Apr 12, 2018 07:11:58   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
jccash wrote:
I use the Nikon D500 with the 200-500mm lens. F5.6 for the most part. 1/800 or so. Play with exposure. VR on. Monopod sometimes. Here is an image I captured of a Hawk in my front yard. No time to set up. Saw the Hawk when I came home from work. Ran inside grabbed my D500 with the 200-500 and took the image from my front porch. Second shot take out of my truck window when I saw the Awspry sitting in a tree. Third picture taken as I was visiting Orlando Wetland. Last shot is of my rig.


But none of your examples are flying.

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