In pursuit of sharp glass
Apr 8, 2018 09:45:01 #
gvarner
Loc: Central Oregon Coast
The highest quality, highest priced lens can produce sharp glass when dropped on the ground. With poor technique and limited artistic vision, you're figuratively dropping it on the ground. The highest price and highest quality lens will not automatically produce the highest quality photos. (Now that's a "well, duh".) My output quality is decent enough for me so I look for decent quality lenses at a decent price. End of rant.
Apr 8, 2018 10:06:49 #
You don't need expensive equipment to make nice photos.
A Plastic Diane is a wonderful tool in the hands of a creative, inquisitive person.
Is that what your saying with your dropping analogy ? Or are you referring to the cameras IQ?
A great camera set by the instruction book will produce high IQ of what ever its pointed at.
You are correct the Craft and Art of photography has to do with the person using to the camera and less to do with one tools.
I see you have nice tools ...Whats your point? ......too many cell phone "photographers" out there?
A Plastic Diane is a wonderful tool in the hands of a creative, inquisitive person.
Is that what your saying with your dropping analogy ? Or are you referring to the cameras IQ?
A great camera set by the instruction book will produce high IQ of what ever its pointed at.
You are correct the Craft and Art of photography has to do with the person using to the camera and less to do with one tools.
I see you have nice tools ...Whats your point? ......too many cell phone "photographers" out there?
Apr 8, 2018 10:07:25 #
gvarner wrote:
The highest quality, highest priced lens can produce sharp glass when dropped on the ground. With poor technique and limited artistic vision, you're figuratively dropping it on the ground. The highest price and highest quality lens will not automatically produce the highest quality photos. (Now that's a "well, duh".) My output quality is decent enough for me so I look for decent quality lenses at a decent price. End of rant.
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So dropping your high quality, high priced lens on the ground is the way to improve technique and artistic vision. I'll have to try that.
Apr 8, 2018 10:28:38 #
Please explain this fixation on lenses, prime or not.
This is the third thread created on this with same slant.
This is the third thread created on this with same slant.
Apr 8, 2018 10:37:28 #
All that glitters is not gold ... If you think paying the most produces the best, you've got some wrong ideas.
Apr 8, 2018 11:30:07 #
Just about any lens made in the last few decades or more, will deliver suberb results. If your images are lacking, look within.
KK
KK
Apr 9, 2018 05:42:39 #
Steamboat wrote:
A Plastic Diane is a wonderful tool in the hands of a creative, inquisitive person.
Plastic Diana camera.
Apr 9, 2018 07:36:33 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
All that glitters is not gold ... If you think paying the most produces the best, you've got some wrong ideas.
So true. It's like thinking some pontificating ass has something to offer.
Apr 9, 2018 07:47:55 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
All that glitters is not gold ... If you think paying the most produces the best, you've got some wrong ideas.
Well maybe! :) General statements about $$ vs quality is a case by case discussion be it lens, body, filters, etc. In any case, if someone is buying a lens and using the price as the only variable, it will be crap shoot. There are tons of reviews out there to aid and abet.
Apr 9, 2018 07:49:47 #
danoliver
Loc: South Central Kentucky
Talking about better glass. My D500 was not producing the sharp pictures I wanted. When I went from shooting 1/500 to 1/4000, my pictures
have gone to a level of sharpness I had never seen. Could it have been my senior shaky hands, probably ! However, I have found happiness with my D500.
have gone to a level of sharpness I had never seen. Could it have been my senior shaky hands, probably ! However, I have found happiness with my D500.
Apr 9, 2018 07:52:06 #
Generally speaking cheap glass will not produce as creamy looking bokeh as the more expensive glass due to several reasons in the manufacture of the lens. While I agree the glass might be overpriced it would make no sense for photographers to spend that kind of money if there was not a difference, and you as an individual would have to decide if that was worth it to you. Expensive lenses are not necessary to make a good photograph just like an expensive camera will not guarantee that it will make you a better photographer, but with experience, practice and knowledge it helps.
gvarner wrote:
The highest quality, highest priced lens can produce sharp glass when dropped on the ground. With poor technique and limited artistic vision, you're figuratively dropping it on the ground. The highest price and highest quality lens will not automatically produce the highest quality photos. (Now that's a "well, duh".) My output quality is decent enough for me so I look for decent quality lenses at a decent price. End of rant.
Apr 9, 2018 08:01:43 #
Cheap to some is expensive to others. Buy what you can afford and perfect the technique. Not all of us aspire to be Andal Adams.
Apr 9, 2018 08:07:19 #
danoliver wrote:
Talking about better glass. My D500 was not producing the sharp pictures I wanted. When I went from shooting 1/500 to 1/4000, my pictures
have gone to a level of sharpness I had never seen. Could it have been my senior shaky hands, probably ! However, I have found happiness with my D500.
have gone to a level of sharpness I had never seen. Could it have been my senior shaky hands, probably ! However, I have found happiness with my D500.
I would test this on a tripod. If you have to shoot everything at 1/4000 you best always have bright day. In less than ideal light your ISO will be astronomical and introduce mucho grain. At least verify you are, are not the problem. It could be the lens.
Apr 9, 2018 08:18:23 #
Rongnongno wrote:
Please explain this fixation on lenses, prime or not.
This is the third thread created on this with same slant.
This is the third thread created on this with same slant.
This is usually caused by something the person has read and does not fully understand. Photography does have areas such as this. Read something and gain experience. Do something and also gain experience. We all progress at our own rate, do we not?
Apr 9, 2018 08:47:35 #
The lens you are using now should be sharp enough and as a matter of fact with any lens if you do your part the lens will do its part. Modern lenses, and many old ones, are very sharp.
If you want to spend good money getting the best there is buy Ernst Leitz or Karl Zeiss lenses. Pay a visit to the bank beforehand, you will need it. The quality and sharpness of Leica and Zeiss optics are well known all over this planet.
I agree with you, no professional camera nor a professional lens are synonymous with great photography. If the operator knows nothing of what he or she is doing the gear used is totally useless and will never render the results expected. It is preferable to buy something less sophisticated and less expensive but used properly.
The person behind the camera or lens is still the most important part of the photographic process.
If you want to spend good money getting the best there is buy Ernst Leitz or Karl Zeiss lenses. Pay a visit to the bank beforehand, you will need it. The quality and sharpness of Leica and Zeiss optics are well known all over this planet.
I agree with you, no professional camera nor a professional lens are synonymous with great photography. If the operator knows nothing of what he or she is doing the gear used is totally useless and will never render the results expected. It is preferable to buy something less sophisticated and less expensive but used properly.
The person behind the camera or lens is still the most important part of the photographic process.
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