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Outdoor fill flash - 70-200 2.8
Apr 4, 2018 16:38:02   #
sxrich
 
One of my favorite lens is the 70-200 2.8 for portraits along with the 85 1.8. Hell, I like them all LOL! One thing, fwiw, is dof which is controlled by distance to subject and not just aperture. Anyway, the benefit of shooting at 200mm is that the dof will typically be from the front of the nose to the back of the head if that's what you're looking for. I was told this years ago but I haven't tested it extensively. I used fill flash on the first 2 portraits in heavier shade (church pics under a tree) and the 3rd had a lot of shadows that I didn't want to deal with, and, when shooting mixed races, light is absorbed differently. Final pic of Yorkie, no fill flash. Nikon d750, sb700 flash, Gary Fong Lightsphere modifier


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Apr 4, 2018 16:45:14   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Very nice examples and appreciate the explanation!

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Apr 4, 2018 16:52:06   #
Jules Karney Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada
 
sxrich wrote:
One of my favorite lens is the 70-200 2.8 for portraits along with the 85 1.8. Hell, I like them all LOL! One thing, fwiw, is dof which is controlled by distance to subject and not just aperture. Anyway, the benefit of shooting at 200mm is that the dof will typically be from the front of the nose to the back of the head if that's what you're looking for. I was told this years ago but I haven't tested it extensively. I used fill flash on the first 2 portraits in heavier shade (church pics under a tree) and the 3rd had a lot of shadows that I didn't want to deal with, and, when shooting mixed races, light is absorbed differently. Final pic of Yorkie, no fill flash. Nikon d750, sb700 flash, Gary Fong Lightsphere modifier
One of my favorite lens is the 70-200 2.8 for port... (show quote)


Very nice. How do you like the Gary Fong Lightsphere?

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Apr 4, 2018 17:00:50   #
sxrich
 
I have the older Gary Fong, doesn't collapse. I've been using it for years. Like any other tool, you learn how to use it but I love it. I use it extensively and find it puts out pretty soft light. Tons of other tools like magmod etc.

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Apr 4, 2018 17:12:18   #
Joe Blow
 
#4 is by far the better. I am a huge fan of side lighting and there is just enough side light to accent the Yorkie and woman. Side lighting adds shadows which in turn gives a sense of depth. Front lighting in portraits leave them flat and less interesting.

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Apr 4, 2018 17:19:52   #
JoAnneK01 Loc: Lahaina, Hawaii
 
Excellent fill in flash. Use it all of the time especially outside to limit the shadows. #4 is my favorite.

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Apr 4, 2018 17:28:22   #
sxrich
 
To Joe Blow - from a photographers standpoint, you may be right with drama/highlights/shadows as a goal, and I do agree. However, my experience has been that clients don't always appreciate the drama that we do. They don't get flat, they don't get sharpness ie look at that pimple on my chin or my pores are too big. It's an interesting game. I'm going to post two portraits I did for someone at church. One, totally flat, one more dramatic (IMHO). Guess which one he liked? I appreciate your feedback though!


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Apr 4, 2018 17:39:58   #
Novicus Loc: north and east
 
You have a Talent for getting people to pose ...which is something vastly underestimated ,yet is the nr. 1 thing to master to obtain successful sittings...Well Done !

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Apr 5, 2018 01:29:50   #
pixbyjnjphotos Loc: Apache Junction,AZ
 
sxrich wrote:
One of my favorite lens is the 70-200 2.8 for portraits along with the 85 1.8. Hell, I like them all LOL! One thing, fwiw, is dof which is controlled by distance to subject and not just aperture. Anyway, the benefit of shooting at 200mm is that the dof will typically be from the front of the nose to the back of the head if that's what you're looking for. I was told this years ago but I haven't tested it extensively. I used fill flash on the first 2 portraits in heavier shade (church pics under a tree) and the 3rd had a lot of shadows that I didn't want to deal with, and, when shooting mixed races, light is absorbed differently. Final pic of Yorkie, no fill flash. Nikon d750, sb700 flash, Gary Fong Lightsphere modifier
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Very nice images. You did well with no glare from the glasses on the first photo. I, too, use fill flash in daylight sometimes. I shoot a lot of photos of antique tractors and farm equipment and a little fill flash really helps bring out the details. Keep up the great work, have fun, and have a GREAT DAY!

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Apr 5, 2018 07:40:20   #
Jules Karney Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada
 
sxrich wrote:
To Joe Blow - from a photographers standpoint, you may be right with drama/highlights/shadows as a goal, and I do agree. However, my experience has been that clients don't always appreciate the drama that we do. They don't get flat, they don't get sharpness ie look at that pimple on my chin or my pores are too big. It's an interesting game. I'm going to post two portraits I did for someone at church. One, totally flat, one more dramatic (IMHO). Guess which one he liked? I appreciate your feedback though!
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Did they like the first one? Second pic is more gritty and rough. Good shots on both.

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Apr 5, 2018 08:54:56   #
berchman Loc: South Central PA
 
sxrich wrote:
To Joe Blow - from a photographers standpoint, you may be right with drama/highlights/shadows as a goal, and I do agree. However, my experience has been that clients don't always appreciate the drama that we do. They don't get flat, they don't get sharpness ie look at that pimple on my chin or my pores are too big. It's an interesting game. I'm going to post two portraits I did for someone at church. One, totally flat, one more dramatic (IMHO). Guess which one he liked? I appreciate your feedback though!
To Joe Blow - from a photographers standpoint, you... (show quote)


The lighting is more interesting in the second one, but he preferred the first one and so do I because in the second one his head is tilted back, which in this case does not make for a pleasing pose, and the way his teeth are showing makes his mouth look weird.

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Apr 5, 2018 12:22:47   #
ebbote Loc: Hockley, Texas
 
Very good set Rich.

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Apr 5, 2018 22:21:15   #
Einreb92 Loc: Philadelphia
 
Thanks for sharing these good shots and also for the accompanying explanation. I am almost ready to tackle off camera flash and am motivated by your shots.

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Apr 5, 2018 22:43:15   #
sxrich
 
these were not off camera flash (OCF) per se. Although I'm familiar with it, have shot OCF, these are basic sb700 Nikon Flash, mounted on top of the camera and bounced into the sky with an inexpensive Gary Fong Lightsphere difuser attached to the top of the flash! Sometimes, I'll point it directly. I just want to add a touch of light, not overpowering but getting rid of the "raccoon eyes" look. Its personal taste though and I don't disagree with others who may not like it or find it creates "flat images". There are trade offs but I have my style and others have theirs. I am gong to post some portrait type images where I didn't use fill flash, indoors, natural light which I like even more. I also use TTL in many cases since I am basically an event shooter with constantly changing lighting. Lots of people will tell you to "get that flash off the camera". I agree in some cases when I've got time to set up but.........no one size fits all. thanks for the feedback. Don't be afraid. Just try,make mistakes and adjust. you will get it.

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Apr 6, 2018 02:37:22   #
Einreb92 Loc: Philadelphia
 
sxrich wrote:
these were not off camera flash (OCF) per se. Although I'm familiar with it, have shot OCF, these are basic sb700 Nikon Flash, mounted on top of the camera and bounced into the sky with an inexpensive Gary Fong Lightsphere difuser attached to the top of the flash! Sometimes, I'll point it directly. I just want to add a touch of light, not overpowering but getting rid of the "raccoon eyes" look. Its personal taste though and I don't disagree with others who may not like it or find it creates "flat images". There are trade offs but I have my style and others have theirs. I am gong to post some portrait type images where I didn't use fill flash, indoors, natural light which I like even more. I also use TTL in many cases since I am basically an event shooter with constantly changing lighting. Lots of people will tell you to "get that flash off the camera". I agree in some cases when I've got time to set up but.........no one size fits all. thanks for the feedback. Don't be afraid. Just try,make mistakes and adjust. you will get it.
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Thanks for the clarification and for the encouragement. I have been reading up on flash usage with my D7200. I ruined a bunch of shots at a birthday party in a low light restaurant and figured I had better get my act together!

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