Camera to Phone Photography: Picture taking has been an interest of mine for over fifty years. When affordable digital cameras were introduced in the early 2000's my amature...

SM849 Loc: San Francisco Bay Area

Picture taking has been an interest of mine for over fifty years. When affordable digital cameras were introduced in the early 2000's my amature
photography status really picked up. And it has become far more affordable to process and print your digital pictures, too. Then my wife introduced
me to taking pictures with my Samsung Galaxy 4 phone. A phone? I thought that was crazy. How can a phone compete with my DSLR cameras.
Well, I tried and liked the results. Had fun with it too. We recently upgraded to a Samsung Galaxy 9+ and the pictures are amazing. The phone is
now a computer and excellent camera. What is next to come? Beam me up, Scotty!

JPL

SM849 wrote:

Picture taking has been an interest of mine for ov... (show quote)

The next thing is the new Huawei P20 pro cameraphone. Will be realeased April 6th. Probably the best cameraphone in recent years.

jdub82 Loc: Northern California

JPL wrote:

The next thing is the new Huawei P20 pro cameraphone. Will be realeased April 6th. Probably the best cameraphone in recent years.

It seems that the Huawei Pro 20 will not be available to purchase with any of the major U.S. Wireless Carriers anytime soon. Apparently, there is some concern in the U.S. about Huawei's close ties with the Chinese Government. Their phones are very popular in Europe.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/29/17174840/huawei-p20-pro-apple-samsung-us-absence

BebuLamar

SM849 wrote:

Picture taking has been an interest of mine for ov... (show quote)

Good for you as I don't know how to take pictures with my phone.

Dannj

I think the term "phone" has become a misnomer...for me, anyway. My traditional "phone" usage, i.e. talking to people, is probably 10%. The other 90% is e-m, internet access, listening to music, GPS, texting, deleting useless spur of the moment pictures and robo-calls.
With all these devices can do for us it's little wonder that many of us have become self-centered, ego-centric and downright rude boors totally ignoring the world around us as we addictively stare at their screens feverishly poking the key pad.
Just sayin'
I'll go have my coffee now😊

JPL

jdub82 wrote:

It seems that the Huawei Pro 20 will not be available to purchase with any of the major U.S. Wireless Carriers anytime soon. Apparently, there is some concern in the U.S. about Huawei's close ties with the Chinese Government. Their phones are very popular in Europe.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/29/17174840/huawei-p20-pro-apple-samsung-us-absence

I have 2 Huawei phones in my household. Excellent phones. I know Huawei is made in China, so is Iphone. Suspect the blocking in the US market has more to do with protecting current market dominators from loosing market share.

lsimpkins Loc: SE Pennsylvania

JPL wrote:

...I know Huawei is made in China, so is Iphone. Suspect the blocking in the US market has more to do with protecting current market dominators from loosing market share.

It also has to do with intellectual property rights (see Cisco commercial routers and switches) and fears of espionage due to a close tie between the company's founder and the People's Liberation Army. Of course, these latter concerns have been disputed by the company.

I suspect that there is no real "block" other than the issues the US carriers would have in putting in place the material management necessary to carry yet another brand of phone.

JPL

lsimpkins wrote:

It also has to do with intellectual property rights (see Cisco commercial routers and switches) and fears of espionage due to a close tie between the company's founder and the People's Liberation Army. Of course, these latter concerns have been disputed by the company.

I suspect that there is no real "block" other than the issues the US carriers would have in putting in place the material management necessary to carry yet another brand of phone.

We all know today that it is easy to spy on people. Everyone knows the latest facebook scandals and Google, Apple and Microsoft are all known to collect lot of user information from mobile use and to be able to collect anything that passes your mobile phone for that matter. The only thing the Chinese could do that is not already done is to use mobiles to dig deep into government secrets. But so could any higly skilled hacker given that government secrets are floating around mobile phones. I can hardly believe that to be the case.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

Distribution of a phone not currently in use in the US is a poor choice of detour for this thread - there is no reason to drive this thread into the Attic.

More important is the progress all smart phone manufacturers are making. Smart phone cameras still have issues - they don't handle motion well, and they're still more wide angle than "long", for example - but they still do an excellent job in the area once dominated by P&S cameras.

I typed this post on my smart phone, incidentally.

Don W-37 Loc: Bangkok, Thailand

Up to you, but a friend had a Chinese brand phone which came with a lot of free malware. Apple and Samsung have their own stringent QA, plus Foxcon would't want to lose a multi-billion $ contract for sneaking malware on them. But Chinese brands...??
Sorry, but don't think you can use "China" and "ethics" in the same sentence. Oops, I just did!! Drat...

JPL

rehess wrote:

Distribution of a phone not currently in use in th... (show quote)

Good points. This phone is actually addressing some of the current limitations of cameraphones. It is handling motion well, it is much better in low light with ISO 102,400, it has almost as many megapixels as the legendary Nokia lumia 1020 and it is optically a f/1.6-2.4 27-80 mm camera (ff equvalent). So it is getting close to being a pretty good all around travel camera. Based on the specs this phone is the best camera phone ever so far. And even if it is banned or not sold in the US all major US tech websites have already mentioned it.

Here is a long article about the camera in this phone.

http://www.pocket-lint.com/phones/news/huawei/143983-huawei-p20-pro-triple-lens-camera-features-revealed-in-full

JPL

Don W-37 wrote:

Up to you, but a friend had a Chinese brand phone which came with a lot of free malware. Apple and Samsung have their own stringent QA, plus Foxcon would't want to lose a multi-billion $ contract for sneaking malware on them. But Chinese brands...??
Sorry, but don't think you can use "China" and "ethics" in the same sentence. Oops, I just did!! Drat...

Everyone knows that China and ethics do not always go well together. However, Huawei is already the second biggest smartphone maker in the world. Samsung is still leading and Apple is number three. I would not worry that a company that big in the market would risk driving away customers by filling their phones with malware.

DJO

Once was, people said: "If it has a ring-tone, it's not a camera." Still true? What is the cost of this newest and latest phone?

Fstop12 Loc: Kentucky

I recently upgraded my IPhone 6 to an IPhone 8+, I usually use it with the Moment 18mm wide angle lens. I'm liking it.

Fstop12 Loc: Kentucky

I recently upgraded my IPhone 6 to an IPhone 8+, I usually use it with the Moment 18mm wide angle lens. I'm liking it.