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Mar 30, 2018 11:31:47   #
SeaBrat Loc: St Petersburg, FL
 
My family have a Nikon D600 full frame (FF) and D5600 APS-C cameras, both with kit telephoto zoom VR to 300mm lenses and both 24 MP. I also have a FF Nikon 200-500 f5.6 VR telephoto. What combination of camera and lens would provide the best quality long telephoto images (that cover the same area) to use for my trip to Yellowstone the 1st week in May and why? I cannot decide.
Using the same lens, the FF image would have to be cropped to cover the same area as the APS-C. But f5.6 on the 200-500mm FF would be much less on the APS-C (f8.4?). Also the FF may have less noise. Would it be much better with a D7500 at 20MP and maybe less noise than the D5600?

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Mar 30, 2018 11:49:59   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
I’d take the FF D600 and the 200-500.

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Mar 30, 2018 11:51:53   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
The 200-500 is f5.6 no matter which body it is attached to.

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Mar 30, 2018 11:51:56   #
ebbote Loc: Hockley, Texas
 
Welcome to the Hog, I have a D600 and a D7100, I much prefer the 600 over the 7100 in all cases. What you see in the viewfinder is what you are going to get whether its FF or DX, enjoy.

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Mar 30, 2018 12:34:20   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Full Frame.

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Mar 30, 2018 12:48:36   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
SeaBrat wrote:
My family have a Nikon D600 full frame (FF) and D5600 APS-C cameras, both with kit telephoto zoom VR to 300mm lenses and both 24 MP. I also have a FF Nikon 200-500 f5.6 VR telephoto. What combination of camera and lens would provide the best quality long telephoto images (that cover the same area) to use for my trip to Yellowstone the 1st week in May and why? I cannot decide.
Using the same lens, the FF image would have to be cropped to cover the same area as the APS-C. But f5.6 on the 200-500mm FF would be much less on the APS-C (f8.4?). Also the FF may have less noise. Would it be much better with a D7500 at 20MP and maybe less noise than the D5600?
My family have a Nikon D600 full frame (FF) and D5... (show quote)

A full frame lens on a crop mode camera quite often excels simply because it is using the sweet spot of the full frame lens. But it all depends on what you're shooting, how much cropping you do and postprocessing...

bwa

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Mar 30, 2018 13:10:19   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
SeaBrat wrote:
My family have a Nikon D600 full frame (FF) and D5600 APS-C cameras, both with kit telephoto zoom VR to 300mm lenses and both 24 MP. I also have a FF Nikon 200-500 f5.6 VR telephoto. What combination of camera and lens would provide the best quality long telephoto images (that cover the same area) to use for my trip to Yellowstone the 1st week in May and why? I cannot decide.
Using the same lens, the FF image would have to be cropped to cover the same area as the APS-C. But f5.6 on the 200-500mm FF would be much less on the APS-C (f8.4?). Also the FF may have less noise. Would it be much better with a D7500 at 20MP and maybe less noise than the D5600?
My family have a Nikon D600 full frame (FF) and D5... (show quote)


You've never been to Yellowstone? Take the least complicated rig you own and enjoy the scenery. You will have greater concern with snow on the roads than the questions you have asked. Finding food that particular week will be a more important issue for you. In the week I was there I used 1 body, a wide angle and a short telephoto. Didn't see one picture that I missed. The park is huge, learn to enjoy it and have lots of fun.

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Mar 30, 2018 13:18:35   #
Steve Perry Loc: Sylvania, Ohio
 
First, start with the 200-500 for telephoto shots, that's the best one in your lineup.

All things being equal, your D600 with give you better results than the DX camera - as long as you fill the frame.

However, if you need to crop, the tables turn and the DX camera will give you better results than the cropped full frame camera. See this test:

https://backcountrygallery.com/cropping-full-frame-vs-shooting-a-crop-camera/

So, start with FX, and when the subject is too far and a heavier crop is required, switch to DX.

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Mar 30, 2018 13:57:42   #
Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA
 
Steve Perry wrote:
First, start with the 200-500 for telephoto shots, that's the best one in your lineup.

All things being equal, your D600 with give you better results than the DX camera - as long as you fill the frame.

However, if you need to crop, the tables turn and the DX camera will give you better results than the cropped full frame camera. See this test:

https://backcountrygallery.com/cropping-full-frame-vs-shooting-a-crop-camera/

So, start with FX, and when the subject is too far and a heavier crop is required, switch to DX.
First, start with the 200-500 for telephoto shots,... (show quote)



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Mar 30, 2018 14:56:29   #
JPL
 
Steve Perry wrote:
First, start with the 200-500 for telephoto shots, that's the best one in your lineup.

All things being equal, your D600 with give you better results than the DX camera - as long as you fill the frame.

However, if you need to crop, the tables turn and the DX camera will give you better results than the cropped full frame camera. See this test:

https://backcountrygallery.com/cropping-full-frame-vs-shooting-a-crop-camera/

So, start with FX, and when the subject is too far and a heavier crop is required, switch to DX.
First, start with the 200-500 for telephoto shots,... (show quote)



This is you best advice. As long as you can fill the frame with the 200-500 lens and D600 camera it will be your best bet. If the 200-500 is not long enough to fill the frame of the D600 with your subjects the crop camera will be a better choice.

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Mar 30, 2018 19:28:38   #
SeaBrat Loc: St Petersburg, FL
 
Thanks for all the comments! Very helpful. Yes this will be my first experience in Yellowstone. I will probably stick with my D600 and 200-500 and normal lens. And wife with her D5600 and kit telephoto. If I need to, I can let her use the 200-500 to get closer. The video was great! Thanks again to all.

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Mar 31, 2018 12:15:44   #
BillyP Loc: Cedar Point, NC
 
Steve Perry wrote:
First, start with the 200-500 for telephoto shots, that's the best one in your lineup.

All things being equal, your D600 with give you better results than the DX camera - as long as you fill the frame.

However, if you need to crop, the tables turn and the DX camera will give you better results than the cropped full frame camera. See this test:

https://backcountrygallery.com/cropping-full-frame-vs-shooting-a-crop-camera/

So, start with FX, and when the subject is too far and a heavier crop is required, switch to DX.
First, start with the 200-500 for telephoto shots,... (show quote)


Had been debating whether or not to take my 70D along with me this summer on a trip to Alaska - have not had it out of the bag since picking up the 5d4 - but after watching that video, I plan to not only take it... but use it also. Thanks!

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Mar 31, 2018 12:30:23   #
rfmaude41 Loc: Lancaster, Texas (DFW area)
 
SeaBrat wrote:
My family have a Nikon D600 full frame (FF) and D5600 APS-C cameras, both with kit telephoto zoom VR to 300mm lenses and both 24 MP. I also have a FF Nikon 200-500 f5.6 VR telephoto. What combination of camera and lens would provide the best quality long telephoto images (that cover the same area) to use for my trip to Yellowstone the 1st week in May and why? I cannot decide.
Using the same lens, the FF image would have to be cropped to cover the same area as the APS-C. But f5.6 on the 200-500mm FF would be much less on the APS-C (f8.4?). Also the FF may have less noise. Would it be much better with a D7500 at 20MP and maybe less noise than the D5600?
My family have a Nikon D600 full frame (FF) and D5... (show quote)


Aperture has absolutely NOTHING to do with sensor size; Same f/5.6 on either camera.

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Mar 31, 2018 21:19:35   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
SeaBrat wrote:
My family have a Nikon D600 full frame (FF) and D5600 APS-C cameras, both with kit telephoto zoom VR to 300mm lenses and both 24 MP. I also have a FF Nikon 200-500 f5.6 VR telephoto. What combination of camera and lens would provide the best quality long telephoto images (that cover the same area) to use for my trip to Yellowstone the 1st week in May and why? I cannot decide.
Using the same lens, the FF image would have to be cropped to cover the same area as the APS-C. But f5.6 on the 200-500mm FF would be much less on the APS-C (f8.4?). Also the FF may have less noise. Would it be much better with a D7500 at 20MP and maybe less noise than the D5600?
My family have a Nikon D600 full frame (FF) and D5... (show quote)

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Mar 31, 2018 23:06:55   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
SeaBrat wrote:
My family have a Nikon D600 full frame (FF) and D5600 APS-C cameras, both with kit telephoto zoom VR to 300mm lenses and both 24 MP. I also have a FF Nikon 200-500 f5.6 VR telephoto. What combination of camera and lens would provide the best quality long telephoto images (that cover the same area) to use for my trip to Yellowstone the 1st week in May and why? I cannot decide.
Using the same lens, the FF image would have to be cropped to cover the same area as the APS-C. But f5.6 on the 200-500mm FF would be much less on the APS-C (f8.4?). Also the FF may have less noise. Would it be much better with a D7500 at 20MP and maybe less noise than the D5600?
My family have a Nikon D600 full frame (FF) and D5... (show quote)


In depends on the light and the distances. In good light, I would be using the crop frame with 200-500. In poor light, I would be using the FF with 200-500 and hope to be filling the frame ! .....

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