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Mar 13, 2018 09:15:31   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
Not a composite, just a straightforward picture - do you find it interesting or have any suggestions to improve it please?


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Mar 13, 2018 10:03:56   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
magnetoman wrote:
Not a composite, just a straightforward picture - do you find it interesting or have any suggestions to improve it please?


It has a subtle surreal look to it.

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Mar 13, 2018 18:52:09   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
lamiaceae wrote:
It has a subtle surreal look to it.


That could probably be improved if I cleaned it up a bit. Many thanks for commenting.

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Mar 14, 2018 07:07:43   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
Crop to the story. Tell us how it was taken, on a window? What is your goal in showing this photo... that can help us make suggestions.

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Mar 14, 2018 16:02:11   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
dpullum wrote:
Crop to the story. Tell us how it was taken, on a window? What is your goal in showing this photo... that can help us make suggestions.


The beetle is on our rather dirty car - the bodywork, not a window.
I like the overall effect but wonder quite what way to go with it, so thought you might come up with something?

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Mar 17, 2018 19:59:59   #
ebrunner Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
magnetoman wrote:
Not a composite, just a straightforward picture - do you find it interesting or have any suggestions to improve it please?


Very Interesting. I can't figure out what the bug is traveling through. Looks really cool.
Erich

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Aug 26, 2018 13:19:46   #
fergmark Loc: norwalk connecticut
 
I just stumbled upon your post here. It makes a very interesting shot. Before you let on that it was on your car, I could only imagine sand. I tried a crop on the right, half way to the bug. The idea was to give the bug a more meaningful placement with the aid of the golden section. I know most of the folks here poo poo the notion that there is any formula for composition. It happens that I disagree. Here you have inadvertently composed the shot with the bug ON the lower golden ratio horizontal. I cropped to position the bug framed in the center of the right hand vertical GS section. Just to see what might happened. My feeling is that the bug is no longer free floating, and the overall composition is improved.

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Aug 26, 2018 13:37:31   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
fergmark wrote:
...I know most of the folks here poo poo the notion that there is any formula for composition...
Apologies for the hijack, but from where are you getting this, Mark? In fact, the Golden Ratio just came up in the topic linked (and has, albeit rarely, in the past):
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-549837-1.html

I personally have no experience with the concepts relative to composition, but I and "most of the folks here" (wink) would find interest in further discussion, I'm confident. Would you host a topic?

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Aug 26, 2018 13:44:05   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
fergmark wrote:
I just stumbled upon your post here. It makes a very interesting shot. Before you let on that it was on your car, I could only imagine sand. I tried a crop on the right, half way to the bug. The idea was to give the bug a more meaningful placement with the aid of the golden section. I know most of the folks here poo poo the notion that there is any formula for composition. It happens that I disagree. Here you have inadvertently composed the shot with the bug ON the lower golden ratio horizontal. I cropped to position the bug framed in the center of the right hand vertical GS section. Just to see what might happened. My feeling is that the bug is no longer free floating, and the overall composition is improved.
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Please feel free to post your crop fergmark, I’d be interested to see it. Not sure too many others will look at this late stage though!

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Aug 26, 2018 14:03:17   #
fergmark Loc: norwalk connecticut
 
magnetoman wrote:
Please feel free to post your crop fergmark, I’d be interested to see it. Not sure too many others will look at this late stage though!



You can decide if there is some discernible improvement. I go by how I react visually by toggling between before and after when its subtle. With the crop, the bug is more so entering the frame, which makes the background landscape more engaging. As well as the bug being comfortably placed. I would be interested to know if you get the same kind of response.





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Aug 26, 2018 14:28:03   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
fergmark wrote:
You can decide if there is some discernible improvement. I go by how I react visually by toggling between before and after when its subtle. With the crop, the bug is more so entering the frame, which makes the background landscape more engaging. As well as the bug being comfortably placed. I would be interested to know if you get the same kind of response.


It certainly feels better Mark. Regretfully, it’s not the crop I saw from the outset - but it’s something I’ll be aware of in the future. Thanks for showing the way, it’s appreciated.

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Aug 26, 2018 20:37:07   #
artBob Loc: Near Chicago
 
magnetoman wrote:
Not a composite, just a straightforward picture - do you find it interesting or have any suggestions to improve it please?


It's a fun picture. It breaks several compositional principles (no mechanical rule can be universally applied for anything other than simple attractiveness), but there is no hard and fast rule about compositional principles. It all depends. In this case the most evident principle, that of leaving space for movement or gaze, is plenty enough. It's an enjoyable, kinda "What the hell?!" pic that could be shown in certain situations, but is not likely an award-winner.

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Aug 27, 2018 03:42:20   #
magnetoman Loc: Purbeck, Dorset, UK
 
artBob wrote:
It's a fun picture. It breaks several compositional principles (no mechanical rule can be universally applied for anything other than simple attractiveness), but there is no hard and fast rule about compositional principles. It all depends. In this case the most evident principle, that of leaving space for movement or gaze, is plenty enough. It's an enjoyable, kinda "What the hell?!" pic that could be shown in certain situations, but is not likely an award-winner.


True. I think Mark’s crop brings the top left area into more significance - there now seems to be a better relationship between the bug and the dark curve leading into that area. Feels comfortable!

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