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Mar 14, 2018 05:03:45   #
Drive by Shooter
 
Nikon P900 zooms to a 35mm equivalent of 2000mm

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Mar 14, 2018 05:15:34   #
Manglesphoto Loc: 70 miles south of St.Louis
 
bellgamin wrote:
Oof! Until now I have never owned any lens longer than 135mm so I had no idea that 100 yards was such a long distance for taking a picture. In Hawaii I have visited surfing beaches where the surfers were quite some distance offshore. There were photographers there on the beach, making movies. I later viewed one of the movies and the surfer was very up close and we viewed his ride all the way in. It was amazing. I remembered that the lenses looked long to me that day at the beach, but not so long as to make me say Wow!

No rule of thumb for doing distance-to-MM estimates was offered so I suppose that none exists. I had hoped to photograph surfers but I see that doing so won't be practical for now. That is.... from the comments here, it seems my idea of shooting close-ups of people at distance would mandate use of a lens that would (a) give me a hernia using it, and (b) empty my billfold for quite a while.

Even so, this is an interesting thread. I learned from it. I am going to look into acquiring the Tamron 150-600 suggested by Drive-By. If I can afford it, I will likely buy it. Otherwise I will start dropping hints at family get-togethers ... I have a birthday in a few months.
Yes, I have. I had end zone tickets for an Alabama vs Texas U game. In the first half, I was at the 'Bama end of the field, so much of the best action was at the other end zone. So I was watching stuff mostly about a hundred yards distant. The second half was visually better because 'Bama was scoring right in front of us. Obviously, TU got smashed.
Oof! Until now I have never owned any lens longer ... (show quote)

The reason I ask is most people can't judge long distances with any degree of accuracy. I have seen image posted here of small birds with distances of up to 100yds stated.
Someone posted the size lens you need to do what you ask, I have the Sigma 150-500 Sports lens and knew it wouldn't do the job.
Have fun and good shooting.
Frank

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Mar 14, 2018 06:04:12   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
Probably more mm than you would want to pay for... I was shooting large herons in Florida at maybe 100 to 125 feet with 400mm on a FF and they were not anywhere close to filling half the frame. I have had people at the drag strip ask me if I got a photo of a car crashing a 1/8 or more of a mile away... People just don't have an idea of what it takes to get such shots if even possible unless they have tried.

Best,
Todd Ferguson

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Mar 14, 2018 06:46:22   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
Simple, use your super zoom and find the image that makes you happy and see what the extension is. Then pick up that bag with the 40 pounds of DSLR and duplicate what the super zoom told you. This is one of those suggestions where I am kidding but not kidding. There are, and this may be, one of those times when people make life and photography very complicated.

!!!upper torso shot of a person 100 yards distant.!!! Boob shots at the beach?

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Mar 14, 2018 07:44:45   #
spaceylb Loc: Long Beach, N.Y.
 
Try this. https://dofsimulator.net/en/

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Mar 14, 2018 08:07:53   #
erickter Loc: Dallas,TX
 
Manglesphoto wrote:
I have a question for you. Have you ever viewed a person at a MEASURED 100 yds with the naked eye?


View a naked person with a measured eye.😃

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Mar 14, 2018 08:09:47   #
reindeer Loc: London U.K.
 
Full frame or DX camera? 600mm for ff and 400 mm for cropped looks ok to me..
Chilly 76 degrees F did you say?
Come over to a warm 38 degrees F in London.

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Mar 14, 2018 08:19:46   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
bellgamin wrote:
Say that I want an upper torso shot of a person 100 yards distant. What size tele lens would I need to get this shot? I ask this question just as an example. What I am really hoping is that someone can give me a rule of thumb for answering "how long a tele" questions such as the one in my example.

Aloha from Hawaii. The temperature right now is a chilling 76° F. Brrrr!


ISO/400+ 1.4 (f-stop) =493/93t629 seconds X400mm= proper tele length +3. That's as close as I can get because its 23 degrees and there is 18" of snow on the ground, and I just shoveled 75 feet of driveway and the 4 shots of Bourbon has fried my brain. And I have had enough of these Nor-Easters. So leave Hawaii and please dig me out (4 foot snow drift at my front door} I feel much better now-sorry for the silly rant

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Mar 14, 2018 08:23:54   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
Maybe 600mm at 100 feet but I don't think at 100 yards...

reindeer wrote:
Full frame or DX camera? 600mm for ff and 400 mm for cropped looks ok to me..
Chilly 76 degrees F did you say?
Come over to a warm 38 degrees F in London.

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Mar 14, 2018 09:29:11   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
RichardTaylor wrote:
Have a look at the dimensional field of view calculator:

http://www.tawbaware.com/maxlyons/calc.htm


👍👍👍👍

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Mar 14, 2018 09:50:25   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
bellgamin wrote:
Oof! Until now I have never owned any lens longer than 135mm so I had no idea that 100 yards was such a long distance for taking a picture. In Hawaii I have visited surfing beaches where the surfers were quite some distance offshore. There were photographers there on the beach, making movies. I later viewed one of the movies and the surfer was very up close and we viewed his ride all the way in. It was amazing. I remembered that the lenses looked long to me that day at the beach, but not so long as to make me say Wow!

No rule of thumb for doing distance-to-MM estimates was offered so I suppose that none exists. I had hoped to photograph surfers but I see that doing so won't be practical for now. That is.... from the comments here, it seems my idea of shooting close-ups of people at distance would mandate use of a lens that would (a) give me a hernia using it, and (b) empty my billfold for quite a while.

Even so, this is an interesting thread. I learned from it. I am going to look into acquiring the Tamron 150-600 suggested by Drive-By. If I can afford it, I will likely buy it. Otherwise I will start dropping hints at family get-togethers ... I have a birthday in a few months.
Yes, I have. I had end zone tickets for an Alabama vs Texas U game. In the first half, I was at the 'Bama end of the field, so much of the best action was at the other end zone. So I was watching stuff mostly about a hundred yards distant. The second half was visually better because 'Bama was scoring right in front of us. Obviously, TU got smashed.
Oof! Until now I have never owned any lens longer ... (show quote)


When did Alabama play TU?

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Mar 14, 2018 10:32:45   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
Maybe 600mm at 100 feet but I don't think at 100 yards...


the basic equation might be fairly straight forward to work

size on sensor / focal length = size of subject / subject distance.

so how about a 100mm lens 100 foot distance and 1 foot high subject.

1/100 = 1/100 so subject is 1mm high on the sensor so at 50 feet twice as tall and 200 feet half the size again.

how about a 200mm lens then 1 foot at 100 feet = 2mm on the sensor and therefore with a 400mm 4mm...

100 yards = 300 feet and half a body around 1 yard so still 4mm at 100 yards so 8mm at 50 yards = half the frame at aps-c or a 1/3rd of full frame.

guess you can figure quite a lot , if you start with easy numbers.

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Mar 14, 2018 12:47:17   #
SAVH Loc: La Jolla, CA
 
RichardTaylor wrote:
Have a look at the dimensional field of view calculator:

http://www.tawbaware.com/maxlyons/calc.htm


It is always so encouraging and helpful when a Hogger answers a question directly with an excellent reference. It is one of the reasons that I go through all the new postings every day. I did not ask the question but I sure benefited from Richard's time posting the answer. Thank you.

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Mar 14, 2018 12:50:08   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
delete... duplicate post

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Mar 14, 2018 12:50:20   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
I don't know the exact distance, pretty far though almost certainly a lot less than a football field away (100 yds)... but this was shot with 700mm on APS-C Canon camera (500mm + 1.4X teleconverter.... full frame equiv. 1120mm).


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