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Feb 24, 2018 01:18:42   #
MikeMc
 
Every time I almost decide on my new camera, you guys post a flurry of new info (to me anyway) that takes me back to the drawing board. I'd pretty much decided on mirrorless FF. prob the Sony a7RII. But the multi page discussion here a couple weeks ago, made me pause: 1) The crop factor where a 100mm lens is like a 150mm on a crop sensor camera. 2) The lighter weight, less expensive lenses for crop sensor camera's 3. The statement that unless you're printing large images, you can't tell the difference in image quality from a FF or good smaller sensor camera. 4. Learning that Canon has the better connectivity software compared to Sony or Nikon.

My shooting will be mostly landscape, family, street scenes, classic cars. Smaller is a good thing as my wife and I are planning a 50th anniversary trip in a couple years to the UK. Plus I travel to a second home frequently. Thus the mirrorless idea.

So what would be the camera of choice considering a higher end APS-C sensor? Canon M5? Fujifilm X-T2? Another one? Would I regret not getting the Sony a7RII?

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Feb 24, 2018 01:32:29   #
Idaho
 
The best camera is the one that's best for you and only you can answer that. You will have to make your own decision. Personally, if I were only going to own one camera, size and weight would be a big factor. The big camera tends to say at home since you don't want to carry it around. The smaller one will go with you especially if you can get in a coat pocket or carry it on a strap with minimal effort.

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Feb 24, 2018 01:48:56   #
MikeMc
 
Of course, but which one has the best image quality?

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Feb 24, 2018 02:11:46   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
MikeMc wrote:
Every time I almost decide on my new camera, you guys post a flurry of new info (to me anyway) that takes me back to the drawing board. I'd pretty much decided on mirrorless FF. prob the Sony a7RII. But the multi page discussion here a couple weeks ago, made me pause: 1) The crop factor where a 100mm lens is like a 150mm on a crop sensor camera. 2) The lighter weight, less expensive lenses for crop sensor camera's 3. The statement that unless you're printing large images, you can't tell the difference in image quality from a FF or good smaller sensor camera. 4. Learning that Canon has the better connectivity software compared to Sony or Nikon.

My shooting will be mostly landscape, family, street scenes, classic cars. Smaller is a good thing as my wife and I are planning a 50th anniversary trip in a couple years to the UK. Plus I travel to a second home frequently. Thus the mirrorless idea.

So what would be the camera of choice considering a higher end APS-C sensor? Canon M5? Fujifilm X-T2? Another one? Would I regret not getting the Sony a7RII?
Every time I almost decide on my new camera, you g... (show quote)

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Feb 24, 2018 04:14:39   #
HOT Texas Loc: From the Heart of Texas
 
You will not regret getting the a7rII, it is full frame and image quality is amazing, if your shooting will be mostly landscape, family, street scenes, classic cars for sure get the a7rII.

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Feb 24, 2018 05:07:30   #
Whitbyrover Loc: Lincolnshire, UK
 
If size and weight are important then have a look at the Olympus 4/3 system. It might be a small sensor, but it packs a mighty image. Take a look at the OMD EM1 mk ii. Super camera and an excellent lineup of lenses.

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Feb 24, 2018 05:43:07   #
Al Freeedman
 
I agree, Olympus is the way to go.

Captain Al

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Feb 24, 2018 05:58:47   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
MikeMc wrote:
Every time I almost decide on my new camera, you guys post a flurry of new info (to me anyway) that takes me back to the drawing board. I'd pretty much decided on mirrorless FF. prob the Sony a7RII. But the multi page discussion here a couple weeks ago, made me pause: 1) The crop factor where a 100mm lens is like a 150mm on a crop sensor camera. 2) The lighter weight, less expensive lenses for crop sensor camera's 3. The statement that unless you're printing large images, you can't tell the difference in image quality from a FF or good smaller sensor camera. 4. Learning that Canon has the better connectivity software compared to Sony or Nikon.

My shooting will be mostly landscape, family, street scenes, classic cars. Smaller is a good thing as my wife and I are planning a 50th anniversary trip in a couple years to the UK. Plus I travel to a second home frequently. Thus the mirrorless idea.

So what would be the camera of choice considering a higher end APS-C sensor? Canon M5? Fujifilm X-T2? Another one? Would I regret not getting the Sony a7RII?
Every time I almost decide on my new camera, you g... (show quote)


Some good links -

Read comparisons and specs, and decide what features are important to you.
(Reviews) https://www.youtube.com/user/TheCameraStoreTV/videos
http://cameras.reviewed.com/
http://camerasize.com/
http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM
http://snapsort.com/compare
http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/cameras?utm_campaign=internal-link&utm_source=mainmenu&utm_medium=text&ref=mainmenu

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Feb 24, 2018 08:41:41   #
Morning Star Loc: West coast, North of the 49th N.
 
Whitbyrover wrote:
If size and weight are important then have a look at the Olympus 4/3 system. It might be a small sensor, but it packs a mighty image. Take a look at the OMD EM1 mk ii. Super camera and an excellent lineup of lenses.


Make that Micro 4/3 or M4/3 system. 4/3 is no longer made.
I second the M4/3 system, OM-D E-M1 Mk II. My brother has it and I have heard nothing but praise about this camera. I have the OM-D E-M1 (first edition), and love that camera. With a few lenses and a flash, I have yet to be in a situation where I couldn't take a good, sharp photo - even of fast-moving grandkids.
For myself, I cannot justify the cost of the mkII, so the camera I have will have to be my companion a bit longer. If I can find my boots, I will see how the camera does in snow a bit later. There's about a foot of the white stuff on the ground right now, and still more coming down...

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Feb 24, 2018 09:11:24   #
warrior Loc: Paso Robles CA
 
Sony is not a camera company.
I am having GREAT results the Fujifilm XT-2

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Feb 24, 2018 09:15:59   #
BebuLamar
 
I don't know but is the M5 an APS-C?

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Feb 24, 2018 09:34:04   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
Although the Oly is a fine camera, some just can’t stay on topic. Same applies for the FF suggestion. The OP did specify a specific format. Now can we start over and try to help the OP?

This would narrow the options to Canon, Fuji, and Sony ASPC.
Canon new to the game and behind the other two, but making strides.
Fuji: very nice array of lenses specifically designed to work with mirrorless without the need for adapters. The “kit” 18-55 is simply better than any other zoom of the same focal length. Retro style with traditional dials. Those who use Fuji’s are passionate and switching from the other big three. Their top of the line is the XT-2, although they just introduced a new model with in camera stabilization. Sony has been doing that for some time.
Sony: has a large array of cameras in the cropped format. Their menus Take some getting used to, It’s a fine system.

One of the design advantages of mirrorless is a thinner body which allows the manafacturer to seat the lens closer to the sensor. Look for a system which has an array of lenses designed for these thinner bodys. They are lighter, smaller, and take advantage of newer technology. In short, they out perform “legacy” lenses as a general rule. So don’t fall into the adapter trap. I’m not a fan of putting “new wine in old wine skins”....

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Feb 24, 2018 09:49:05   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I don't know but is the M5 an APS-C?

Yes.

And that brings up another point. This is probably a very bad time to be in a rush. If I were in the market right now, I would wait until the new cameras from Canon and Nikon had been evaluated by use.

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Feb 24, 2018 09:56:31   #
bull drink water Loc: pontiac mi.
 
i'm sticking with my Sony aps-c a-mount cameras they from entry level to 24 mp. they have some great new features. I see no reason to switch to the e-mount.

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Feb 24, 2018 10:23:38   #
BebuLamar
 
With only 3 APS-C Mirrorless systems to choose from I think I would pick Fuji.

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