6000 Days In Afghanistan/America's Longest War (Page 2): Are we to believe your responses have value...

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

gmcase wrote:

Your response has no substance but only whimsical tripe. You aren't cogent enough to take seriously.

Are we to believe your responses have value

usnpilot Loc: Ft Myers Fl

dirtpusher wrote:

Are we to believe your responses have value

No one really cares what you believe, your ignorance shows up in all your posts.

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

usnpilot wrote:

No one really cares what you believe, your ignorance shows up in all your posts.

Not as strongly as yours. Go back your fraidy hole. Lol

usnpilot Loc: Ft Myers Fl

dirtpusher wrote:

Not as strongly as yours. Go back your fraidy hole. Lol

Just proved my point.

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

usnpilot wrote:

Just proved my point.

Only point you have. Is on your head.

WB9DDF Loc: Knoxville, IL

thom w wrote:

A libertarian with a heart would be a liberal. As far as I can see the main difference is libertarians believe they are not their brothers keeper. I think that belief makes them much less human. Had we not been attacked would you have had us not interfere in WWII? (just a question)

I would have had us not interfere in WWI in the first place! That set the stage for one of the greatest evils of the 20th century, Hitler. Without the U.S. entry into WWI, Germany and the Allies would have fought to exhaustion and negotiated a peace that would not have bankrupted Germany and led to the rise Hitler and the N**is.

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

mas24 wrote:

America got involved in Afghanistan because of the Twin Towers destruction on 9-11-01 in NYC. Rightfully so. It is our longest War on record. The cost of that war has been $52 billion so far, and has resulted in 32 military rotations. And the costs are still mounting. Will there ever be an end to this dreadful War. A US Military General was murdered there. A first ever in that region. How can this war end. Or will it ever?

First off, Afghanistan had nothing to do with 9/11/01; I have no idea at all why we attacked them. The Saudis on the other hand.....

How can you know whether it ends, or when it ends, or if it ends?

And how will you judge whether we won or lost?

That’s a serious question; can you give a serious answer?

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

WB9DDF wrote:

I would have had us not interfere in WWI in the first place! That set the stage for one of the greatest evils of the 20th century, Hitler. Without the U.S. entry into WWI, Germany and the Allies would have fought to exhaustion and negotiated a peace that would not have bankrupted Germany and led to the rise Hitler and the N**is.

That is interesting and I appreciate your reply but that's not the war I was asking about.

WB9DDF Loc: Knoxville, IL

thom w wrote:

That is interesting and I appreciate your reply but that's not the war I was asking about.

Keeping out of WWI would have prevented WWII.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

Twardlow wrote:

First off, Afghanistan had nothing to do with 9/11/01; I have no idea at all why we attacked them. The Saudis on the other hand.....

How can you know whether it ends, or when it ends, or if it ends?

And how will you judge whether we won or lost?

That’s a serious question; can you give a serious answer?

I'm not sure how I feel about us going into Afghanistan, but it isn't true that they had nothing to do with 911. They sheltered Bin Laden. They refused to turn him over. Whether or not it made sense to invade is a separate issue. Is Saudi Arabia responsible for most of the Islamist violence? Almost for sure.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

WB9DDF wrote:

Keeping out of WWI would have prevented WWII.

You may be right. A different settlement of WWI may also have stopped WWII. By the time we entered WWII it was way too late to fix either.

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

Twardlow wrote:

First off, Afghanistan had nothing to do with 9/11/01; I have no idea at all why we attacked them. The Saudis on the other hand.....

How can you know whether it ends, or when it ends, or if it ends?

And how will you judge whether we won or lost?

That’s a serious question; can you give a serious answer?

Afghanistan is where Osama bin Laden was hiding were it not.

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

thom w wrote:

You may be right. A different settlement of WWI may also have stopped WWII. By the time we entered WWII it was way too late to fix either.

Yes, but a ‘different settlement’ may have (probably) included Germany controlling all of Europe and own all it’s resources, making war on Russia inevitable, then what? War on the USA—against a vastly stronger Germany than we faced in WWII.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

Twardlow wrote:

Yes, but a ‘different settlement’ may have (probably) included Germany controlling all of Europe and own all it’s resources, making war on Russia inevitable, then what? War on the USA—against a vastly stronger Germany than we faced in WWII.

I'm not knowledgeable enough about WWI to know if you are right or not but I have no trouble believing you.

Twardlow Loc: Arkansas

thom w wrote:

I'm not knowledgeable enough about WWI to know if you are right or not but I have no trouble believing you.

Well, WWI was a terrible war for casualities, thousands upon thousands dead in a single battle, sometime for absolutely no gain at all.

The casualities were terrible.

(Later, from Wikipedeia)

The total number of military and civilian casualties in World War I was more than 41 million: there were over 18 million deaths and 23 million wounded, ranking it among the deadliest conflicts in human history.

The total number of deaths includes from 9 to 11 million military personnel and about 5 to 6 million civilians. The Triple Entente (also known as the Allies) lost about 6 million military personnel while the Central Powers lost about 4 million. At least 2 million died from diseases and 6 million went missing, presumed dead. This article lists the casualties of the belligerent powers based on official published sources. About two-thirds of military deaths in World War I were in battle, unlike the conflicts that took place in the 19th century when the majority of deaths were due to disease. Nevertheless, disease, including the 1918 flu p******c and deaths while held as prisoners of war, still caused about one third of total military deaths for all belligerents.