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The Republicans’ deficit s**m is exposed for all to see
Feb 2, 2018 08:39:58   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/the-republicans-deficit-s**m-exposed-all-see

Contrary to what the trumpsters believe, the Grand Tax Cut Scheme has spiraled the US Debt clock into a rapid head on crash with reality, "because the Republican’s $1.5 trillion tax cut is already starting to affect U.S. finances"

"The reason for the change stems from the tax cuts, which went into effect in January and are expected to t***slate into less revenue for the federal government."

The CON ARTIST sitting in the Oval Office has done more harm to our economy, and the country, than those few remaining followers making up his ever dwindling base will admit to.

Trickle Down Economics is a huge failure, it's not bringing in the kinds of tax revenue that they touted to the uneducated American V**ers.

The GOP was hell bent on destroying the US Economy, and here's the sign that their motives are starting to work.

Tax breaks for Businesses and the rich which is where a good portion of the Federal Budget revenue comes from, and higher taxes for the low and middle income earners, which garners a very small fraction of the Federal Budget revenue.

You can't increase Federal Spending to the point that the president and Congress wants to, IF there isn't enough money flowing in to support those spending increases.

The border wall expense in an unnecessary expense because there simply won't be sufficient Return On Investment. Increasing the border patrol staffing levels will garner a better ROI than building a wall will.

By setting specific date ranges into the DACA Bill will deter new "illegal" immigration going forward. Anyone arriving as a child before the date of the bill, who follows specific legal steps towards citizenship, which includes a clean record without any convictions or motor vehicle violations, passes background checks, has completed their education, holds a job, and pays their taxes should be allowed to file for DACA status.

All other potential immigrants will need to apply for a visa, and go through the required background checks, and apply for citizenship within "X" months/years of arrival, or face deportation.

But anyone who arrives illegally after the date of the bill, or has a criminal record should be deported.

Not everyone who arrives in the United States as an illegal or undocumented immigrant is a criminal, or will turn into a criminal, contrary to what trump believes.

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Feb 2, 2018 08:46:18   #
EyeSawYou
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/the-republicans-deficit-s**m-exposed-all-see

Contrary to what the trumpsters believe, the Grand Tax Cut Scheme has spiraled the US Debt clock into a rapid head on crash with reality, "because the Republican’s $1.5 trillion tax cut is already starting to affect U.S. finances"

"The reason for the change stems from the tax cuts, which went into effect in January and are expected to t***slate into less revenue for the federal government."

The CON ARTIST sitting in the Oval Office has done more harm to our economy, and the country, than those few remaining followers making up his ever dwindling base will admit to.

Trickle Down Economics is a huge failure, it's not bringing in the kinds of tax revenue that they touted to the uneducated American V**ers.

The GOP was hell bent on destroying the US Economy, and here's the sign that their motives are starting to work.

Tax breaks for Businesses and the rich which is where a good portion of the Federal Budget revenue comes from, and higher taxes for the low and middle income earners, which garners a very small fraction of the Federal Budget revenue.

You can't increase Federal Spending to the point that the president and Congress wants to, IF there isn't enough money flowing in to support those spending increases.

The border wall expense in an unnecessary expense because there simply won't be sufficient Return On Investment. Increasing the border patrol staffing levels will garner a better ROI than building a wall will.

By setting specific date ranges into the DACA Bill will deter new "illegal" immigration going forward. Anyone arriving as a child before the date of the bill, who follows specific legal steps towards citizenship, which includes a clean record without any convictions or motor vehicle violations, passes background checks, has completed their education, holds a job, and pays their taxes should be allowed to file for DACA status.

All other potential immigrants will need to apply for a visa, and go through the required background checks, and apply for citizenship within "X" months/years of arrival, or face deportation.

But anyone who arrives illegally after the date of the bill, or has a criminal record should be deported.

Not everyone who arrives in the United States as an illegal or undocumented immigrant is a criminal, or will turn into a criminal, contrary to what trump believes.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/the-republ... (show quote)


LOL just a bunch of rubbish nonsense. lol

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Feb 2, 2018 08:48:29   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
LOL just a bunch of rubbish nonsense. lol


No it's not.

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Feb 2, 2018 08:56:46   #
WNYShooter Loc: WNY
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:

Not everyone who arrives in the United States as an illegal or undocumented immigrant is a criminal, or will turn into a criminal, contrary to what trump believes.


WTF are you smoking?

If they are in the US illegally they are actively breaking the law, they are committing a crime, thus they are criminals. They should be treated as such.

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Feb 2, 2018 08:59:13   #
EyeSawYou
 
Kraken wrote:
No it's not.


It absolutely is rubbish, the tax cut was just implemented 2 days ago lol.

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Feb 2, 2018 09:02:09   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
It absolutely is rubbish, the tax cut was just implemented 2 days ago lol.

The Budget went into effect in October, even though a full 2018 budget hasn't been approved, the GOP is complicit in reducing Federal Revenue.

Why has the Deficit Clock suddenly moved up so fast?

Lack of Revenue coming in!

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Feb 2, 2018 09:03:50   #
drainbamage
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
It absolutely is rubbish, the tax cut was just implemented 2 days ago lol.


Shutterbut1697 is a Troll......look at the join date.

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Feb 2, 2018 09:11:44   #
EyeSawYou
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
The Budget went into effect in October, even though a full 2018 budget hasn't been approved, the GOP is complicit in reducing Federal Revenue.

Why has the Deficit Clock suddenly moved up so fast?

Lack of Revenue coming in!


Again, pure rubbish nonsense. The tax cut just took effect 2 days ago on Feb 1st and will in fact increase gov revenue as it had many times in the past.

the National Debt has Fallen by $102 Billion Since Donald Trump's Inauguration till July 2017 and it will continue to fall as well as gov revenue will increase.

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Feb 2, 2018 09:12:18   #
EyeSawYou
 
drainbamage wrote:
Shutterbut1697 is a Troll......look at the join date.


Ahh I see that now. :)

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Feb 2, 2018 09:33:07   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
Again, pure rubbish nonsense. The tax cut just took effect 2 days ago on Feb 1st and will in fact increase gov revenue as it had many times in the past.

the National Debt has Fallen by $102 Billion Since Donald Trump's Inauguration till July 2017 and it will continue to fall as well as gov revenue will increase.

The National Deficit is about to hit the debt ceiling, and it will need to be INCREASED in order for the Federal Government to continue doing business.

That's the cold hard t***h that you fail to acknowledge.

If we can't borrow money, we can't run the government.

That means no non-essential military spending.

No Border Wall.

No "Vacations" for trump and his extended family.

Your Tax Return Checks could/will be delayed.

That's the reality of hitting the Federal Debt Ceiling, which is roaring for a head-on crash with another Government Shutdown.

There are just over 6.5 days until the next Budget deadline and potential Government Shutdown, which is tied to a DACA deal this time. And the GOP already was involved in a train wreck on the way to their current "Retreat", which ends today, which took them away from their job of running the government of the United States.

Then the Democrats will be out of DC from February 7-9, so that leaves Congress just 4 calendar days to work out the next budget bill, two of which are Saturday and Sunday. So in reality, they only have Monday and Tuesday in DC to get the job done.

Yeah, we're heading for another Government shutdown next week, and it's going to last much longer this time, because a DACA bill has to be completed before the Democrats will allow the budget to be discussed.

DACA
Budget
National Debt Ceiling

Those topics are going to haunt the GOP as they go down in flames.

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Feb 3, 2018 11:57:34   #
John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN
 
This one sentence "The GOP was hell bent on destroying the US Economy, and here's the sign that their motives are starting to work." prompts me to think about why, what objective. It seems to me that the GOP wants to bring the nation into a crisis of such dimension that the only remedy is a Constitutional Convention. At such the entire Constitution and all its Amendments could be rewritten. As we know much big money is behind the GOP and it is only big money that could benefit from a rerurn of the Aristicracy to power. A new big-money bought Constitution would permanently restore the Aristocracy.

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Feb 3, 2018 12:30:37   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Maybe--just maybe. you should have sounded your warning for Obama as he doubled our national debt in the 8 years of his presidency. His deficit spending accounted for 10 TRILLION $ in those 8 years.

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Feb 3, 2018 12:56:13   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
boberic wrote:
Maybe--just maybe. you should have sounded your warning for Obama as he doubled our national debt in the 8 years of his presidency. His deficit spending accounted for 10 TRILLION $ in those 8 years.


That is nothing compared to what trump will do if he is in for 8 years

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Feb 3, 2018 15:54:45   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
boberic wrote:
Maybe--just maybe. you should have sounded your warning for Obama as he doubled our national debt in the 8 years of his presidency. His deficit spending accounted for 10 TRILLION $ in those 8 years.

Congress passed the spending bills that raised the National Debt, not President Obama. Congress added pork to those bills.

Look no further than the current occupant of the Oval Office for the 2018 Budget Crisis.

How many trips has he already made to Florida since he took office?

At a cost of $6.6M through Christmas of 2017 just for Air Force One.

$33 million for Secret Service travel costs.

Then you have to add in all of the Golf Cart Rental Fees, which are going right into trump's pocket.

Between 01/20/17 and 12/26/17 trump had so far spent 110 days or nearly one-third of his presidency at a trump property.

Early in 2017, trump spent 39 days at Mar-a-Lago as President, including seven weekends in January, February and March

When the weather in South Florida turned hot and muggy over the summer, trump ventured north to the familiar confines of his golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey. trump spent a total of 40 days at the club, including a number of work filled days in August when trump held meetings with cabinet officials and called world leaders.

Closer to the White House, trump visited the trump National Golf Club in Northern Virginia 23 times and the trump International Hotel just blocks down Pennsylvania Avenue five times through December.

He spent several days at trump Tower in New York last summer and also stopped by the trump International Hotel Waikiki during a brief stop in Hawaii on his way to Asia in November.

trump is imposing his personal lifestyle costs on the American Taxpayer.

Taxpayers spent $96.9 million on travel for former President Barack Obama and his family during his eight years in office, roughly $1 million per month, according to the Journal.

trump, on the other hand, was racking up $1.5 million a month in just the cost of his own airfare before he started traveling to his New Jersey golf club in June.

As of 12/26/17, trump had spent over 86 days at one of his golf courses.

What was it that he used to complain about President Obama and his occasional Golf Outings? That President Obama was spending too much time golfing, and not running the country.

Obama Played 333 Rounds of Golf in 8 Years.

trump Has Played at least 311 rounds Golf on the days between January 20, 2017 and November 27,2017, which is 312 days.

For President Obama, that averaged out to one round of golf every 8.774775 days, where with trump it averages out to one round of golf every day.

The added security costs for the extended trump family has skyrocketed over any previous president in the history of our country.

Start by curtailing trump's own spending habits.

He was pissed that he couldn't travel when the government shut down a few weeks ago. Put him on restricted travel budget.

We didn't elect a part-time president. It's even more of a part-time job when you consider he only works down in the Oval Office from 11 to 6 each day. That's only a 7 hour block of time, then subtract the time when he eats lunch. The office of the President of the United States is a full time job, 24/7/365. If he wasn't aware what the job entailed, then he shouldn't have run for office. To trump, running was a joke, a lark, he did it just to see how far he could get. He never expected to win when he announced his candidacy in July of 2015.

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Feb 3, 2018 17:53:17   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Kraken wrote:
That is nothing compared to what trump will do if he is in for 8 years

Yup. With just one bill trump has added $1.5T to the National Debt, and we're only 380 days into the trump administration. That only leaves him $8.5 T to equal or exceed what some are complaining about with President Obama.

Barack Obama (D) added $7.917 trillion, a 68 percent increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of George W. Bush’s last budget, FY 2009.

George W. Bush (R) increased the debt by 101 percent increase from the $5.8 trillion debt at the end of Clinton's last budget, FY 2001.

Bill Clinton (D) added $1.396 trillion, a 32 percent increase from the $4.4 trillion debt at the end of George H.W. Bush's last budget, FY 1993.

George H.W. Bush (R) added $1.554 trillion, a 54 percent increase from the $2.8 trillion debt at the end of Reagan's last budget, FY 1989.

With his tax cuts, Ronald Reagan (R) added $1.86 trillion, a 186 percent increase from the $998 billion debt at the end of Carter's last budget, FY 1981. Reaganomics didn't work to grow the economy enough to offset tax cuts.

trumpanomics won't work either.

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