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Feb 1, 2018 10:38:11   #
HollyA
 
Thought this looked interesting cos I've been doing street photography the past couple of months

https://www.photocontestinsider.com/2018/01/black-and-white-street-photography/

Also can anyone help me out with the rules about model releases for street photography? I heard you don't need a release if the photo is taken in a public place. Seems a bit daft if you take a photo of a parade or something then need to get releases signed by everyone in the parade lol

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Feb 1, 2018 10:55:13   #
duane klipping Loc: Bristow iowa
 
The way I understand it is no release required as long as it is not used commercially such as a bill board or any form of advertising in which someone would profit by using their likeness. This does not include Art photography. Not a lawyer just my understanding.

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Feb 1, 2018 12:01:07   #
HollyA
 
duane klipping wrote:
The way I understand it is no release required as long as it is not used commercially such as a bill board or any form of advertising in which someone would profit by using their likeness. This does not include Art photography. Not a lawyer just my understanding.


Thanks, Duane, yes that would make sense - i guess it should be ok not to have a release for pics in portfolios and competitions and stuff. Wonder if the people you see in postcards had to sign releases?

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Feb 1, 2018 12:25:03   #
PixelStan77 Loc: Vermont/Chicago
 
duane klipping wrote:
The way I understand it is no release required as long as it is not used commercially such as a bill board or any form of advertising in which someone would profit by using their likeness. This does not include Art photography. Not a lawyer just my understanding.


Also at public events if you zoom in on someone you do not need a Model release. The key is no revenue derived or commercial use of the image. Postcards sounds like commercial use.

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Feb 1, 2018 13:37:50   #
Joe Blow
 
Their are two aspects of copyright here. The first is the photographer owns the copyright of their photo. The second is people and other copyrighted items in that photo do not lose their proprietary interest (their copyright) to their image.

In the public interest over rides the second protection. If you take a picture with private (or public) individuals or a huge commercial sign you may sell your photo to a news outlet. You may even put it in a book, provided, the book has some relationship to the public interest. That is how the paparazzi can sell shots of celebrities.

If the image is not in the public interest, then you need permission to sell it. So if you have a shot of Tiger Woods taking a swing on a golf course, you could sell it to a news outlet but not use it to sell or promote the golf course without permission.

Recently there have been some music groups that have used photos to promote themselves. While the photo may be of the band, they still need the photographer's permission to use it commercially.

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Feb 1, 2018 20:38:36   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
The bottom line is that this is a photo competition, and they have a right to make a rule that you must have releases from people in the photos.

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Feb 1, 2018 20:46:34   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
The bottom line is that this is a photo competition, and they have a right to make a rule that you must have releases from people in the photos.

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Feb 2, 2018 12:41:17   #
HollyA
 
Joe Blow wrote:
Their are two aspects of copyright here. The first is the photographer owns the copyright of their photo. The second is people and other copyrighted items in that photo do not lose their proprietary interest (their copyright) to their image.

In the public interest over rides the second protection. If you take a picture with private (or public) individuals or a huge commercial sign you may sell your photo to a news outlet. You may even put it in a book, provided, the book has some relationship to the public interest. That is how the paparazzi can sell shots of celebrities.

If the image is not in the public interest, then you need permission to sell it. So if you have a shot of Tiger Woods taking a swing on a golf course, you could sell it to a news outlet but not use it to sell or promote the golf course without permission.

Recently there have been some music groups that have used photos to promote themselves. While the photo may be of the band, they still need the photographer's permission to use it commercially.
Their are two aspects of copyright here. The firs... (show quote)


All a bit complicated and i guess there are grey areas, maybe it is in the public interest for a student to be able to take street photos but not if they end up in adverts

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Feb 2, 2018 12:42:11   #
PixelStan77 Loc: Vermont/Chicago
 
HollyA wrote:
All a bit complicated and i guess there are grey areas, maybe it is in the public interest for a student to be able to take street photos but not if they end up in adverts





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Feb 2, 2018 12:42:50   #
HollyA
 
PixelStan77 wrote:
Also at public events if you zoom in on someone you do not need a Model release. The key is no revenue derived or commercial use of the image. Postcards sounds like commercial use.


Yes public events, i guess people can choose whether to be in a parade or whatever and if they do that they know their pics might be taken

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Feb 2, 2018 12:44:08   #
HollyA
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
The bottom line is that this is a photo competition, and they have a right to make a rule that you must have releases from people in the photos.

It was more a general question realy but i guess with a photo contest they have to say that in case they get complaints from people in the winning photos

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