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Jan 26, 2018 10:28:56   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
It is rumored that Nikon will have a new mount for their future mirror-less camera.

I understand that the lens distance to sensor is shorter on mirror-less but why change mounts. Couldn't they keep the same mount and stick to the current body thickness. Replacing all my lenses is an expensive proposition.

Hobbling a lens with an adaptor is not in my future unless performance is not affected, and that is unlikely.

What am I missing?

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Jan 26, 2018 10:35:50   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
joer wrote:
It is rumored that Nikon will have a new mount for their future mirror-less camera.

I understand that the lens distance to sensor is shorter on mirror-less but why change mounts. Couldn't they keep the same mount and stick to the current body thickness. Replacing all my lenses is an expensive proposition.

Hobbling a lens with an adaptor is not in my future unless performance is not affected, and that is unlikely.



Interesting.

https://www.thephoblographer.com/2018/01/15/nikon-full-frame-mirrorless-z-mount/

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Jan 26, 2018 10:36:14   #
Burtzy Loc: Bronx N.Y. & Simi Valley, CA
 
You're not missing anything. Nikon has been obsoleting their previous generations for decades. I'm sure that much of that has been upgrade the photographic experience, but the profit motive must figure in there somewhere.

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Jan 26, 2018 10:45:50   #
DTran
 
With the new E lenses there should be no compromise using the adapter except making the camera larger but that's the same as making a camera with larger flange distance. With other lenses there would be some compromises but because the F mount has too many variations and to make a new camera that can accommodate all those lenses would make the mount too complicated.
I see they chose 16mm flange distance which is even shorter than the Nikon 1 which allows for adapting the Nikon 1 lenses also.

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Jan 26, 2018 10:50:08   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
Burtzy wrote:
You're not missing anything. Nikon has been obsoleting their previous generations for decades. I'm sure that much of that has been upgrade the photographic experience, but the profit motive must figure in there somewhere.

Really? Why is it that I can use 40 year old (or older) Nikon lenses on my FX camera?

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Jan 26, 2018 11:02:18   #
DTran
 
Rich1939 wrote:
Really? Why is it that I can use 40 year old (or older) Nikon lenses on my FX camera?


I just got the Df and I can use Nikon lenses that are nearly 60 year old but still there are compromises and I do think Nikon is better off starting fresh with their full frame mirrorless.

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Jan 26, 2018 11:11:19   #
Joe Blow
 
My guess.

Mirror-less cameras have the advantage of being smaller. Using lenses with a shorter focus length can help save some size. It would be counter intuitive to sell a SLR for your pocket that uses a huge lens.

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Jan 26, 2018 11:25:23   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
joer wrote:
It is rumored that Nikon will have a new mount for their future mirror-less camera.

I understand that the lens distance to sensor is shorter on mirror-less but why change mounts. Couldn't they keep the same mount and stick to the current body thickness. Replacing all my lenses is an expensive proposition.

Hobbling a lens with an adaptor is not in my future unless performance is not affected, and that is unlikely.

What am I missing?

Thirty years ago, Canon jumped in front of Nikon and Pentax when they were willing to jump to a new mount, while Nikon and Pentax were hobbled by their mechanical linkage heritages. Canon applied the same formula when they went to the EOS-M - perhaps Nikon has learned from the past.

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Jan 26, 2018 11:35:03   #
bkyser Loc: Fly over country in Indiana
 
Why so surprised, the J series cameras are also interchangeable lenses, but a different mount than your DSLR. It's a different camera system.
I am not bashing one brand or another, but I'm fairly certain that Nikon has been much better about not changing mounts for different DSLR series than the other brands, so why is it so horrible that if they actually go with a whole different system, that it has it's own mount?

If you want mirrorless, why hang a huge lens off of it? Isn't one of the points of mirrorless, to reduce weight, and make it more portable?

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Jan 26, 2018 11:36:51   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
Joe Blow wrote:
My guess.

Mirror-less cameras have the advantage of being smaller. Using lenses with a shorter focus length can help save some size. It would be counter intuitive to sell a SLR for your pocket that uses a huge lens.

It seems the new mirror-less will have a slightly larger lens diameter than the old F mount .
see : https://nikonrumors.com/2018/01/11/nikons-upcoming-mirrorless-camera-rumored-to-have-a-new-z-mount-with-16mm-flange-focal-distance.aspx/

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Jan 26, 2018 11:59:53   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Rich1939 wrote:
It seems the new mirror-less will have a slightly larger lens diameter than the old F mount .
see : https://nikonrumors.com/2018/01/11/nikons-upcoming-mirrorless-camera-rumored-to-have-a-new-z-mount-with-16mm-flange-focal-distance.aspx/

Canon went to wider lens diameter when they developed the EF-mount.

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Jan 26, 2018 12:06:40   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
rehess wrote:
Canon went to wider lens diameter when they developed the EF-mount.

The article opined that the wider flange opening combined with a shallower flange to sensor depth will allow larger glass (larger f stops) and also will enable newer design wide angle lenses. (it could also allow a sensor a bit larger than 24X36 )

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Jan 26, 2018 12:42:45   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
...sittin' back eatin' some popcorn while this unfolds...Nikon is so far behind on the mirrorless scene. It'll take them years to catch up. Look at the Canon M series. It took them almost 5 years to finally come close to the putting out a decent mirrorless camera (and their native lens lineup is still very weak) This is just a stepping stone, it'll take 3-5+ years of R&D after the release of this camera before they'll have a "professional" mirrorless camera.

Let the haters hate.

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Jan 26, 2018 13:07:41   #
Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA
 
The Nikon 1 CX mirrorless camera works well with the Nikon FT-1 adapter and F-mount lenses (AF-S digital). It is restricted to center point autofocus on the AF-S lenses. It can also use the AI-S film lenses in manual mode.

joer wrote:
It is rumored that Nikon will have a new mount for their future mirror-less camera.

I understand that the lens distance to sensor is shorter on mirror-less but why change mounts. Couldn't they keep the same mount and stick to the current body thickness. Replacing all my lenses is an expensive proposition.

Hobbling a lens with an adaptor is not in my future unless performance is not affected, and that is unlikely.

What am I missing?

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Jan 26, 2018 13:10:49   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
...sittin' back eatin' some popcorn while this unfolds...Nikon is so far behind on the mirrorless scene. It'll take them years to catch up. Look at the Canon M series. It took them almost 5 years to finally come close to the putting out a decent mirrorless camera (and their native lens lineup is still very weak) This is just a stepping stone, it'll take 3-5+ years of R&D after the release of this camera before they'll have a "professional" mirrorless camera.

Let the haters hate.
...sittin' back eatin' some popcorn while this unf... (show quote)

Pass the salt please!
Pass the salt please!...

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