4K Video with No 4K TV?
Jan 26, 2018 05:39:02 #
If we do not have access to a 4K TV, is there a sase for choosing 4K over HD mode?
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Jan 26, 2018 05:43:35 #
Patw28 wrote:
If we do not have access to a 4K TV, is there a sase for choosing 4K over HD mode?
Reference?
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You may have a 4K TV in the future, but you can't recreate content.
Jan 26, 2018 05:57:34 #
ToBoldlyGo
Loc: London U.K.
Yes of course. You can crop to a much greater extent if all you want is say 1080. You can also change the shot by doing this all with one take. Or you can future proof.
Jan 26, 2018 05:58:51 #
Peterff wrote:
You may have a 4K TV in the future, but you can't recreate content.
I'm 89 and I only buy ripe bananas.
Jan 26, 2018 06:00:00 #
Well if storage or bandwidth is not an issue, why not? Someday you will have a 4K display - probably very soon - they have gotten so cheap now it makes no sense to buy an HD display...or you may be over a friend's or relative's house who does have 4K....so if you are recording something new it's a good idea to go 4K and if you need a smaller version (e.g., for the HD display) that can be made from the master 4K copy. I currently use a 55" Sony 4K display for everything - PC monitor, streaming, etc. My Dell laptop has 4K display....pics look awesome.
Caveats -
4K takes much more storage and bandwidth - 4 x the requirements of HD or more depending on frame rates and bit rates
Depending on the device you are recording on, the full sensor may not be used, so you may be cropping more and have to compensate with a wider lens. (Some cameras like the D850, use the full sensor area for 4K so there is no crop.)
I hear that 8K is on the horizon...
Caveats -
4K takes much more storage and bandwidth - 4 x the requirements of HD or more depending on frame rates and bit rates
Depending on the device you are recording on, the full sensor may not be used, so you may be cropping more and have to compensate with a wider lens. (Some cameras like the D850, use the full sensor area for 4K so there is no crop.)
I hear that 8K is on the horizon...
Jan 26, 2018 06:05:32 #
Jan 26, 2018 06:30:11 #
Patw28 wrote:
I'm 89 and I only buy ripe bananas.
ROTFLMAO! 🤣
Well, technology has the shelf life of a banana also. My mother-in-law, my favorite party animal, turned 90 in December and has three older sibs. Her mother threw in the towel at 103, having been alive in three different centuries.
Go out and party, man!
Jan 26, 2018 07:03:45 #
mas24
Loc: Southern CA
Patw28 wrote:
I'm 89 and I only buy ripe bananas.
Hang it there Mister. My late godmother made it to age 96. She would have lived longer if she had not fallen and broken her hip. At your age, be careful of Falling. Continue your good lifestyle, Being 89 means you're doing something right. IMO. I buy bananas too. They ripe rather quickly.
Jan 26, 2018 13:18:57 #
As ToBoldlyGo stated you can crop more. This means that in the video editor you can zoom into any part of the scene further without the picture looking pixelated. This way you can turn a wide shot into a closeup. This is like cropping a still picture. The more pixels in the original, the tighter you can crop. Some people also take individual frames from a 4K scene and use them as 8MP stills.
Jan 26, 2018 16:45:01 #
mwsilvers
Loc: Central New Jersey
Patw28 wrote:
If we do not have access to a 4K TV, is there a sase for choosing 4K over HD mode?
Reference?
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What are the videos of? Who will see them? Will you be giving them to anyone? Finally what is the resolution of the device you will be viewing them on now? If its full hi-def 1080P?
Jan 27, 2018 06:54:52 #
I may be wrong, but to my knowledge there are no broadcast programs delivered in 4k at this time and most of the off air TV stations are still using 720P. While I admit that videos taken and displayed at 4k can be astounding, I have to question the financial sense in getting that far ahead of the masses in this sort of ever changing technology. There is a rather hefty premium to pay to stay on the cutting edge of technology and at least for me, 1080P HD does a really nice job for a whole lot less investment. Also, by the time 4K becomes the "go to" standard, there's going to be something else come along anyway.
Jan 27, 2018 07:01:52 #
Jan 27, 2018 07:38:59 #
mwsilvers
Loc: Central New Jersey
Bison Bud wrote:
I may be wrong, but to my knowledge there are no b... (show quote)
Even though my cable provider Optimum here is New Jersey transmits at 1080i, my Samsung 4K TV upscales the signal and the result is a significantly sharper and a much more immersive experience than on our two other TVs which are 1080P. Regular Blu-Ray discs are significantly better and 4K disks through a 4K Blu-ray player are phenomenal. And just so you don't think I talking about several thousand dollars of equipment to achieve that, the TV is a 40" Samsung Ultra High Definition model which cost $299 at Costco during Christmas and the Samsung 4K Blu-Ray player cost $137, also at Costco.
Jan 27, 2018 09:06:54 #
Yeah, my Blueray player upscales as well and I can hardly tell the difference in a normal DVD and an actual Blueray disk. However, I was unaware of a 4k Blueray player being available and have yet to see a 4K movie disk, but they must be available if they're selling the players. I guess that Technology marches on and keeping up with it can be a real challenge, even for an ex-broadcast engineer like myself.
Jan 27, 2018 12:11:06 #
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