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Jan 25, 2018 15:52:37   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
I noticed something today that I never noticed before on my Canon DSLR. I was flipping through the menu system and saw an Actuations count with a number and a less than sign. It appeared that this was to the nearest 1000 but that is still useful. I reset my count every 10000 actuations so I can get an accurate count by just keeping track to the number of times it rolls over. I don't know if this is a new feature or just something I never noticed before, but I go through every setting in the menu system at one time or another, so it may have been in a firmware update. Interested to see if any others have seen this especially on newer model Canon DSLRs.

Best,
Todd Ferguson

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Jan 25, 2018 15:59:06   #
Old Timer Loc: Greenfield, In.
 
This feature has been on all my Canon cameras going back to my xsi witch I believe came on the market in 2008. Not a new feature, but if you buy a used one you never know how many times it has rolled over 9999 count. You can not depend on some one else word.

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Jan 25, 2018 16:21:09   #
Kuzano
 
While there have been some interesting attempts at finding shutter count using such web sites, none have ever given me a true reading on actuations. I have sent my Canons to Canon in Irvine California. They charge $30 for a count alone. If the camera goes in for other service, and if I ask, they will give me a courtesy shutter count. A sensor clean will afford me a courtesy shutter count.

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Jan 25, 2018 16:44:05   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
Since I purchased this body new I and I know the number of times it has rolled over the 10000 counter I am sure I can be within a couple actuations of the exact number. Now if you use the counter differently and reset it when you change cards for example it gets more difficult. But I had never see this "Less Than" Actuations menu item before today. I have had this body since October 2016.

Best,
Todd

Kuzano wrote:
While there have been some interesting attempts at finding shutter count using such web sites, none have ever given me a true reading on actuations. I have sent my Canons to Canon in Irvine California. They charge $30 for a count alone. If the camera goes in for other service, and if I ask, they will give me a courtesy shutter count. A sensor clean will afford me a courtesy shutter count.

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Jan 25, 2018 21:25:35   #
Joe Blow
 
Which model and which firmware version is this?

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Jan 25, 2018 21:45:34   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
I noticed something today that I never noticed before on my Canon DSLR. I was flipping through the menu system and saw an Actuations count with a number and a less than sign. It appeared that this was to the nearest 1000 but that is still useful. I reset my count every 10000 actuations so I can get an accurate count by just keeping track to the number of times it rolls over. I don't know if this is a new feature or just something I never noticed before, but I go through every setting in the menu system at one time or another, so it may have been in a firmware update. Interested to see if any others have seen this especially on newer model Canon DSLRs.

Best,
Todd Ferguson
I noticed something today that I never noticed bef... (show quote)

I have 3 Canon bodies with which I'm very familiar and do not see that anywhere. Can you please indicate which camera you have, and which menu and which option show you that info? Are you using Magic Lantern?

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Jan 25, 2018 21:50:02   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
Kuzano wrote:
While there have been some interesting attempts at finding shutter count using such web sites, none have ever given me a true reading on actuations. I have sent my Canons to Canon in Irvine California. They charge $30 for a count alone. If the camera goes in for other service, and if I ask, they will give me a courtesy shutter count. A sensor clean will afford me a courtesy shutter count.


Canon shutter count is very easy to find, but Canon doesn't put it in the EXIF data for some reason. There are various tools that can find the info, which has been discussed many times, every month or so on UHH. Some tools are free for some cameras, others have a small fee, <$10 per camera for as many actuation counts as you wish. We have 5 Canon digital cameras, I can retrieve the shutter count on all of them any time I wish to. I can't get the shutter count on my AE-1 or T90, but I don't know what I would do with that information.

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Jan 25, 2018 21:55:57   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
Joe Blow wrote:
Which model and which firmware version is this?

I discovered it under System Status Display on my 1Dx MkII with firmware version 1.1.2. It is called Release Cycles...I believe I mistakenly called it Activations. System Status Display is the next menu item under the Copyright Information menu item in the Wrench Menu Tab 4.
I also went back to the Canon manual I downloaded when I got the camera, actually before, and it is on page 520 in the Manual. Learn something new each day...

Best,
Todd Ferguson

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Jan 25, 2018 22:06:36   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
I discovered it under System Status Display on my 1Dx MkII with firmware version 1.1.2. It is called Release Cycles...I believe I mistakenly called it Activations. It is under the Copyright Information menu item in the Wrench Menu Tab 4.
I also went back to the Canon manual I downloaded when I got the camera, actually before, and it is on page 520 in the Manual. Learn something new each day...

Best,
Todd Ferguson

Does not seem to be available on my 7D Mark II, 60D or t3i. I have no idea what oldtimer is referring to with his ancient Rebels, except maybe the image numbers which can't be related to shutter count they and will change when swapping SD cards.

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Jan 25, 2018 22:14:47   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
If you have PDF copies of the manuals for your cameras you can try searching for "release cycles". I guess I never went into that menu item before because the firmware version is displayed elsewhere in the Info displays IIRC. Some might argue that to the nearest 1000 releases is not that accurate but my body is rated at 400,000 releases so 1000 is .25 percent. That is probably close enough. If the body is only rated for 100,000 or 150,000 one might want finer granularity. But even 1000 in 100,000 is only 1 percent.

Yes, I think he was confusing the counter with total releases...

Best,
Todd Ferguson

mwsilvers wrote:
Does not seem to be available on my 7D Mark II, 60D or t3i. I have no idea what oldtimer is referring to with his ancient Rebels, except maybe the image numbers which can't be related to shutter count since it changes depending on the card used.

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Jan 25, 2018 22:28:21   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
If you have PDF copies of the manuals for your cameras you can try searching for "release cycles". I guess I never went into that menu item before because the firmware version is displayed elsewhere in the Info displays IIRC. Some might argue that to the nearest 1000 releases is not that accurate but my body is rated at 400,000 releases so 1000 is .25 percent. That is probably close enough. If the body is only rated for 100,000 or 150,000 one might want finer granularity. But even 1000 in 100,000 is only 1 percent.

Yes, I think he was confusing the counter with total releases...

Best,
Todd Ferguson
If you have PDF copies of the manuals for your cam... (show quote)


I don't find that menu item on my Canons either. I can get the info with Magic Lantern or other software tools, but not from the standard menus.

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Jan 25, 2018 22:31:55   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Peterff wrote:
I don't find that menu item on my Canons either. I can get the info with Magic Lantern or other software tools, but not from the standard menus.


Remember he's using a 1Dx Mark II so there are extra layers of sophisticated functionality.

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Jan 25, 2018 22:38:42   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
mwsilvers wrote:
Remember he's using a 1Dx Mark II so there are extra layers of sophisticated functionality.


Yes, I noted that, but since I can get that data easily I don't fret about it. I did check my .pdf manuals to no avail.

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Jan 25, 2018 23:01:17   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
mwsilvers wrote:
Remember he's using a 1Dx Mark II so there are extra layers of sophisticated functionality.


I would be interested to hear about these extra layers of sophisticated functionality... In many ways the camera is rather simple. It has less than half the modes of the consumer bodies. It has a focus system that is very similar to the 7D2 and 5D4 but a bit faster. It has moderate megapixels compared to many of the current DSLRs. The high ISO performance is slightly better than the 5D4 but that is mostly tied to the difference in megapixels in my view. So...I'm not seeing your point...

Best,
Todd Ferguson

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Jan 25, 2018 23:13:39   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
I would be interested to hear about these extra layers of sophisticated functionality... In many ways the camera is rather simple. It has less than half the modes of the consumer bodies. It has a focus system that is very similar to the 7D2 and 5D4 but a bit faster. It has moderate megapixels compared to many of the current DSLRs. The high ISO performance is slightly better than the 5D4 but that is mostly tied to the difference in megapixels in my view. So...I'm not seeing your point...

Best,
Todd Ferguson
I would be interested to hear about these extra la... (show quote)


Perhaps different layers would be a better way to express it. The shutter count information is in the cameras, but different models have differing levels of automation and feature sets. Fortunately there seems to be a basic set of common controls and things between most Canon cameras, but access to shutter count isn't one of them without using other software tools. My lowly T3i has all sorts of automated scene modes, and I don't think I've ever used a single one of them. Of course it does things that my T90 cannot do, such as autofocus and dynamically adjust ISO, but I mostly use the primary modes that the T90 has while taking advantage of the new technology for things that a manual focus film camera could not do. The 80D definitely has more sophistication than a T3i, better autofocus and sensor, but the basic controls aren't too dissimilar.

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