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Jan 25, 2018 10:43:13   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
Blaster34 wrote:
Had the EU stayed an 'Economic Association' the UK may well have stayed and rejected Brexit. Seems the EU has become more of a 'Social Experiment' than a political or economic union. Policy making has become more inter-governmental rather than between the governed and governors.....Running away from their own voters, European governments have invested the EU with seemingly absolute authority, centrally located in Brussels, and then behave as if they were not responsible for what it does. I don't envy those both in or out of the EU, when you surrender your sovereignty, you surrender it all and it has consequences. However, I'm sorry you have to pay such high taxes on quality Japanese optics. Cheers
Had the EU stayed an 'Economic Association' the UK... (show quote)


To be fair the advantages out way the disadvantages pretty much and there are things such as national veto's if they are needed. EU standards are a great thing If you manufacture a product that meets eu standards you can sell it all over the EU not only that for other countries that a product meets EU standards is mostly accepted as meeting or exceeding local standards.

It's kind of nice that my driving license is accepted all over Europe, that I can get free health care within 28 states. My qualifications are recognised by 28 countries too. I can largely choose where to live, to spend my money within Europe.

To be fair the United States of America pretty much is the same thing, you have government in Washington who makes decisions which cover all the individual states of the union. You have just been living with it for longer.

I'm living in a small country population around 4 million what kind of trade deal could Ireland get with Japan for instance, however as a deal negotiated with the EU its a better deal than trading alone.

If i buy something from japan i'm giving ireland 23% of the purchase price which goes back into the services i use. If you buy something from Japan all of the money goes to Japan. If I choose to buy within the EU instead all of it goes into the European economy and the cycle continues.

looking up balance of trade between US and Japan

"Japan is currently our 4th largest goods trading partner with $195.5 billion in total (two way) goods trade during 2016. Goods exports totaled $63.3 billion; goods imports totaled $132.2 billion. The U.S. goods trade deficit with Japan was $68.9 billion in 2016."

For the EU and Japan the trade balance is much more equal
http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documents/2995521/6851957/6-28052015-AP-EN.pdf/e54ca68e-0c7b-4ffc-813a-e73a46cb0ce2

"After a significant decrease in 2009 following the financial crisis, the value of European Union (EU) imports of
goods from Japan recovered until 2011 and then fell continuously to stand in 2014 at €54.6 bn, the lowest level
recorded over the last ten years. Exports, which declined only slightly in 2009, then recovered more strongly to
reach a peak of €55.7 bn in 2012, and then slightly decreased over the following years to €53.3 bn in 2014. As a
result, the EU trade deficit with Japan, which had constantly been above €20.0 bn between 2004 and 2011, has
considerably reduced during the last three years to be almost in balance in 2014 at -€1.3 bn"

Ok it's still a deficit of €1.3 billion but thats a lot better than $68.9 billion.

So not so bad My country gets 23% of my money when I buy from Japan.

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Jan 25, 2018 11:09:39   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
In the next few months you will have one of the two building in the USA. They have started and expect to bring on about 160 people.

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Jan 25, 2018 11:33:41   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
Picture Taker wrote:
Unless Argus or Kodak reopens in the USA we have no American camera maker.

Not entirely true. There are a few people in the U.S. who produce and sell custom-made cameras on a small scale. Typically these are large format film cameras, but I've seen other types of cameras too.

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Jan 25, 2018 11:43:15   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
repleo wrote:
Obviously you should buy the U.S. manufactured camera, which would be ..... ???? Kodak ???? Polaroid ??? OOH - I know - Apple iPhone!


Sorry, only designed in USA, not manufactured.

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Jan 25, 2018 12:07:02   #
repleo Loc: Boston
 
dsmeltz wrote:
Sorry, only designed in USA, not manufactured.


I know. I was being sarcastic.

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Jan 25, 2018 12:21:28   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
johneccles wrote:
When tariffs are imposed on goods imported into the US what camera would you buy then?


Are there even any viable American made mirrorless or DSLR ILC cameras made in the USA?

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Jan 25, 2018 12:32:34   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Are there even any viable American made mirrorless or DSLR ILC cameras made in the USA?


NO!

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Jan 25, 2018 13:43:41   #
G Brown Loc: Sunny Bognor Regis West Sussex UK
 
blackest wrote:
To be fair the advantages out way the disadvantages pretty much and there are things such as national veto's if they are needed. EU standards are a great thing If you manufacture a product that meets eu standards you can sell it all over the EU not only that for other countries that a product meets EU standards is mostly accepted as meeting or exceeding local standards.

It's kind of nice that my driving license is accepted all over Europe, that I can get free health care within 28 states. My qualifications are recognised by 28 countries too. I can largely choose where to live, to spend my money within Europe.

To be fair the United States of America pretty much is the same thing, you have government in Washington who makes decisions which cover all the individual states of the union. You have just been living with it for longer.

I'm living in a small country population around 4 million what kind of trade deal could Ireland get with Japan for instance, however as a deal negotiated with the EU its a better deal than trading alone.

If i buy something from japan i'm giving ireland 23% of the purchase price which goes back into the services i use. If you buy something from Japan all of the money goes to Japan. If I choose to buy within the EU instead all of it goes into the European economy and the cycle continues.

looking up balance of trade between US and Japan

"Japan is currently our 4th largest goods trading partner with $195.5 billion in total (two way) goods trade during 2016. Goods exports totaled $63.3 billion; goods imports totaled $132.2 billion. The U.S. goods trade deficit with Japan was $68.9 billion in 2016."

For the EU and Japan the trade balance is much more equal
http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documents/2995521/6851957/6-28052015-AP-EN.pdf/e54ca68e-0c7b-4ffc-813a-e73a46cb0ce2

"After a significant decrease in 2009 following the financial crisis, the value of European Union (EU) imports of
goods from Japan recovered until 2011 and then fell continuously to stand in 2014 at €54.6 bn, the lowest level
recorded over the last ten years. Exports, which declined only slightly in 2009, then recovered more strongly to
reach a peak of €55.7 bn in 2012, and then slightly decreased over the following years to €53.3 bn in 2014. As a
result, the EU trade deficit with Japan, which had constantly been above €20.0 bn between 2004 and 2011, has
considerably reduced during the last three years to be almost in balance in 2014 at -€1.3 bn"

Ok it's still a deficit of €1.3 billion but thats a lot better than $68.9 billion.

So not so bad My country gets 23% of my money when I buy from Japan.
To be fair the advantages out way the disadvantage... (show quote)


AHHH, Ireland ....Have they come up with an answere to Southern Ireland being in the EU and Northern Ireland not having any border control? What a 'free trade' zone that would make. Would it be a back door from or into the EU?
Living on the South Coast of England - the EU will remain a couple of hours away only. I cannot see any reason to stay away. I could see little reason to leave, having voted to join the EEC in my late teens. If they do put restrictions on travel across the Channel - it would be a great boost to Holyhead!

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Jan 25, 2018 13:54:02   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Blaster34 wrote:
Tariff's or Duty....in a nutshell, Duty is paid on ANY item bought or imported from overseas if it exceeds a certain amount...~$1600. A Tariff is used to restrict trade. When are Tariff's put on Cameras?


As mentioned in the early stages of this thread, Harmonized Tariff Schedule of the United States (HTSUS) would provide a little insight. This determines which commodities from which countries and how much and what the limits are.

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Jan 25, 2018 14:38:19   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
G Brown wrote:
AHHH, Ireland ....Have they come up with an answere to Southern Ireland being in the EU and Northern Ireland not having any border control? What a 'free trade' zone that would make. Would it be a back door from or into the EU?
Living on the South Coast of England - the EU will remain a couple of hours away only. I cannot see any reason to stay away. I could see little reason to leave, having voted to join the EEC in my late teens. If they do put restrictions on travel across the Channel - it would be a great boost to Holyhead!
AHHH, Ireland ....Have they come up with an answer... (show quote)


It's liable to be an Irish solution to an Irish problem :)

Things will be traded back and forth between the north and south and questions will not be asked, asking questions will only force duty to be charged and paid :)

It is fairly unlikely that Northern Ireland will become a gateway to mainland Europe. The revenue collectors will setup shop in Holyhead to prevent this.

The common travel area still exists so Ireland and the UK may have some sort of arrangement.

We do get our way here mostly, around the 2009 crash The IMF decided Ireland needed a metered water supply for domestic use. There were no household water bills but road tax was very high and collected what was needed for water. long story short they tried to implement it failed and those that did pay should pretty much have got their money back by now. :) no way were we going to pay twice.

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Jan 25, 2018 18:35:39   #
Jesu S
 
dsmeltz wrote:
Sorry, only designed in USA, not manufactured.

repleo wrote:
I know. I was being sarcastic.


Careful. You almost gave Tim Cook a heart attack.

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Jan 26, 2018 12:48:54   #
G Brown Loc: Sunny Bognor Regis West Sussex UK
 
blackest wrote:
It's liable to be an Irish solution to an Irish problem :)

Things will be traded back and forth between the north and south and questions will not be asked, asking questions will only force duty to be charged and paid :)

It is fairly unlikely that Northern Ireland will become a gateway to mainland Europe. The revenue collectors will setup shop in Holyhead to prevent this.

The common travel area still exists so Ireland and the UK may have some sort of arrangement.

We do get our way here mostly, around the 2009 crash The IMF decided Ireland needed a metered water supply for domestic use. There were no household water bills but road tax was very high and collected what was needed for water. long story short they tried to implement it failed and those that did pay should pretty much have got their money back by now. :) no way were we going to pay twice.
It's liable to be an Irish solution to an Irish pr... (show quote)


Paying for water in Ireland would be a bit much....they would try charging for breathing air next.:-)

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Jan 26, 2018 13:08:57   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
G Brown wrote:
Paying for water in Ireland would be a bit much....they would try charging for breathing air next.:-)


They charge in Manchester, when i was 18 i had the choice study in Sheffield or Manchester, I figured it rained less in Sheffield. It rained everyday without fail for at least 3 months...

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