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Jan 24, 2018 01:59:30   #
canon Lee
 
If you are shooting indoors and using a flash, be aware of this. The higher you turn up the flash output, the longer it takes to reset. This would be important if you are a wedding photographer and you want to get the whole procession coming down the isle, or the tossing of the bouquet or garter. If its turned up to max output ( cannon 580EXII +3) you will miss the action as the brides maids seem to always walk fast as well as the bride and her dad. So while the flash is charging back up, the bride has walked past you... Has anyone here had this experience? With the flash set at +1 I can get 3 shots off, @ +3 maybe 1, but the next shot will take a long time to recharge. I suggest that you never use +3 or +2, or you will miss your shots, rather shoot closer @+1, or open your aperture fully.

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Jan 24, 2018 02:09:38   #
Haydon
 
Are you using a battery pack Lee?

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Jan 24, 2018 02:11:08   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
canon Lee wrote:
If you are shooting indoors and using a flash, be aware of this. The higher you turn up the flash output, the longer it takes to reset. This would be important if you are a wedding photographer and you want to get the whole procession coming down the isle, or the tossing of the bouquet or garter. If its turned up to max output ( cannon 580EXII +3) you will miss the action as the brides maids seem to always walk fast as well as the bride and her dad. So while the flash is charging back up, the bride has walked past you... Has anyone here had this experience? With the flash set at +1 I can get 3 shots off, @ +3 maybe 1, but the next shot will take a long time to recharge. I suggest that you never use +3 or +2, or you will miss your shots, rather shoot closer @+1, or open your aperture fully.
If you are shooting indoors and using a flash, be ... (show quote)

"or open your aperture fully." BEST ADVICE YET!

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Jan 24, 2018 06:58:57   #
RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
canon Lee wrote:
If you are shooting indoors and using a flash, be aware of this. The higher you turn up the flash output, the longer it takes to reset. This would be important if you are a wedding photographer and you want to get the whole procession coming down the isle, or the tossing of the bouquet or garter. If its turned up to max output ( cannon 580EXII +3) you will miss the action as the brides maids seem to always walk fast as well as the bride and her dad. So while the flash is charging back up, the bride has walked past you... Has anyone here had this experience? With the flash set at +1 I can get 3 shots off, @ +3 maybe 1, but the next shot will take a long time to recharge. I suggest that you never use +3 or +2, or you will miss your shots, rather shoot closer @+1, or open your aperture fully.
If you are shooting indoors and using a flash, be ... (show quote)

Another option is to use a flash equal to the task.

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Jan 24, 2018 07:07:14   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
canon Lee wrote:
If you are shooting indoors and using a flash, be aware of this. The higher you turn up the flash output, the longer it takes to reset. This would be important if you are a wedding photographer and you want to get the whole procession coming down the isle, or the tossing of the bouquet or garter. If its turned up to max output ( cannon 580EXII +3) you will miss the action as the brides maids seem to always walk fast as well as the bride and her dad. So while the flash is charging back up, the bride has walked past you... Has anyone here had this experience? With the flash set at +1 I can get 3 shots off, @ +3 maybe 1, but the next shot will take a long time to recharge. I suggest that you never use +3 or +2, or you will miss your shots, rather shoot closer @+1, or open your aperture fully.
If you are shooting indoors and using a flash, be ... (show quote)


The only good reason for turning up the flash is to get a shot that would otherwise be too far under exposed to be useable. So its a trade off...one useable shot or three missed.

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Jan 24, 2018 07:09:25   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
joer wrote:
The only good reason for turning up the flash is to get a shot that would otherwise be too far under exposed to be useable. So its a trade off...one useable shot or three missed...or you could come prepared after checking out the location lighting in advance.

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Jan 24, 2018 08:13:40   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
What about using multiple flashes? It may depend on the location opportnities, but you can increase the light while reducing cycle time.

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Jan 24, 2018 08:29:38   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
Peterff wrote:
What about using multiple flashes? It may depend on the location opportnities, but you can increase the light while reducing cycle time.


Thats true 2 speed lights can produce the same light at half the power of a single one (of the same type) and 4 can operate at a 1/4 of the power. This would speed up recharge time.

Some speed lights only discharge as much as they need too which means you can take a short burst without running out too. Less is more if the circumstances allow for it.

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Jan 24, 2018 08:48:32   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
blackest wrote:
Thats true 2 speed lights can produce the same light at half the power of a single one (of the same type) and 4 can operate at a 1/4 of the power. This would speed up recharge time.

Some speed lights only discharge as much as they need too which means you can take a short burst without running out too. Less is more if the circumstances allow for it.


Exactly. I have 3 580 EX flashes and a controller, and it definitely helps in the right circumstances.

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Jan 24, 2018 09:23:48   #
Joe Blow
 
Having adequate battery power goes a long way when you need that quick charging. Discussing with the wedding party before hand how quickly to enter and walk can help too.

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Jan 24, 2018 10:09:28   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
canon Lee wrote:
If you are shooting indoors and using a flash, be aware of this. The higher you turn up the flash output, the longer it takes to reset. This would be important if you are a wedding photographer and you want to get the whole procession coming down the isle, or the tossing of the bouquet or garter. If its turned up to max output ( cannon 580EXII +3) you will miss the action as the brides maids seem to always walk fast as well as the bride and her dad. So while the flash is charging back up, the bride has walked past you... Has anyone here had this experience? With the flash set at +1 I can get 3 shots off, @ +3 maybe 1, but the next shot will take a long time to recharge. I suggest that you never use +3 or +2, or you will miss your shots, rather shoot closer @+1, or open your aperture fully.
If you are shooting indoors and using a flash, be ... (show quote)


Use a Quantum flash with a battery pack - more power, faster recycle. Use higher ISO and lower flash along with wider apertures. I suggest against wide open due to image quality and DoF considerations.

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Jan 24, 2018 13:49:02   #
canon Lee
 
RWR wrote:
Another option is to use a flash equal to the task.


RWR So true... I use Canons most powerful flash.. 580EXII. I have the option to adjust the output through a large range...

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Jan 24, 2018 13:55:51   #
canon Lee
 
Haydon wrote:
Are you using a battery pack Lee?


Haydon I do have a battery pack,( which I use only for certain shoots), but I change my batteries in my flash . My routine when doing a wedding is to change my card/camera battery/& flash battery, when doing the pre ceremony, ceremony, formals, & the reception. The main reason for my remarks has more to do with recharge time for the flash, when using too high a flash output.

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Jan 24, 2018 13:58:11   #
canon Lee
 
joer wrote:
The only good reason for turning up the flash is to get a shot that would otherwise be too far under exposed to be useable. So its a trade off...one useable shot or three missed.


There is always the option to shoot closer using a fast lens... Using a +1 output will allow me to recharge faster thus getting more shots.

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Jan 24, 2018 14:01:14   #
canon Lee
 
Peterff wrote:
What about using multiple flashes? It may depend on the location opportnities, but you can increase the light while reducing cycle time.


Using my 580EXII has enough output, as long as I don't turn it up to full (3x) as this will slow down the recharge time and It reduces the amount of shots I could take.

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