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Jan 24, 2018 01:53:15   #
current Loc: Hooper Utah
 
As a new subscriber I appreciate seeing the images submitted and the opportunity to comment, however I would benefit from knowing the lens, f/stop, shutter speed, IOS and camera used. Does anyone else feel this information would add value? I'd love to see this as a prerequisite to submissions.

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Jan 24, 2018 03:26:12   #
Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.
 
Apparently they do not encourage lots of picture posting on this section. I think the Gallery is the best place for posting lots of pictures. Do you mean that section?

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Jan 24, 2018 06:10:17   #
G Brown Loc: Sunny Bognor Regis West Sussex UK
 
Having downloaded the image you should be able to look at the exif data. 'How' depends on your software. It could be as simple as right clicking the mouse. This lists all the data you require.
However, as every image is different - what are you going to learn from that particular image, that you couldn't learn from experience using your own kit or a technique 'search'. Even if you bought exactly the same kit and stood in exactly the same place and used the same settings - your image would differ. Have you ever seen two identical images made by two different people?
Exif data is useful when checking the performance of a series of images using different settings or lenses/filters etc in order to learn the limits of your own kit or your own 'experience' suggests that a 'glaring' mistake has been made (if that is the purpose of the posted image). But the 'recipe' of a shot changes too frequently to be useful other than as a 'guide'. When you can read it....its generally too late.(you use it to see 'why its wrong' rather than seeing what is right).
Having said that...there are 'general techniques and settings' quoted as being a 'quick fix' in certain situations. These have come from film - when the results came back days later. With digital you can now see instantly. Those rough guides may give you 'the ball park' but your prefered shot will probably differ slightly, situation to situation.

Looking at other people's images expands your appreciation of style and artistic interpretation. You can see the effect that was used and how the shot was 'visualised' by the individual. That is often more about gaining insight rather than camera settings. Yes it may look over exposed to the limits of 'white'. But that was THEN. When you try to do a similar style you will probably take a dozen shots at different settings to get one that you are happy with after post processing!

Have fun

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Jan 24, 2018 06:20:12   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
current wrote:
As a new subscriber I appreciate seeing the images submitted and the opportunity to comment, however I would benefit from knowing the lens, f/stop, shutter speed, IOS and camera used. Does anyone else feel this information would add value? I'd love to see this as a prerequisite to submissions.

There was a thread on that and the use of EXIF was deemed misleading by some (with reasons) and useful by other (with reasons) so the 'debate' was nothing but opinions based on experience*. Note that in some areas the EXIF is needed (Photo Analysis) by example. Everywhere else, it 'depends'.

As to make it mandatory, no way Eddie. Many folks would lose interest in posting if they had to take an extra step for questionable benefits.

Now...

If you look at the thumbnail the EXIF is gone. UHH get(s?) rid of it when compressing/resizing the image.
If there is a download link under the image, click on the link and use your browser EXIF reader** if you have one. Using this download is your best bet BUT (there is always one) some of the images have been 'cleaned out' by the poster - I clean out my EXIF -.

I hope this helps

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* Try to figure out why an image is green SOOC using EXIF....
** Find an EXIF reader add-on for the browser and OS you need to get the EXIF information. Otherwise you will need to have an EXIF reader from the OS or use one from your editor. In the two later cases your will have to save the image onto your HDD. Which makes the process longer for no benefit.

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SOOC Straight Out Of a Camera
HDD Hard Disk Drive
OS Operating System

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Jan 24, 2018 06:39:10   #
rjaywallace Loc: Wisconsin
 
current wrote:
As a new subscriber I appreciate seeing the images submitted and the opportunity to comment, however I would benefit from knowing the lens, f/stop, shutter speed, IOS and camera used. Does anyone else feel this information would add value? I'd love to see this as a prerequisite to submissions.

I agree completely with UHH member ‘Current’, irregardless of ‘where’ the image is posted. BTW, I believe members should be allowed to post photos wherever they so choose. UHH is, after all, about photography - there should be no restrictions placed here on where those photos are posted. When I post photos, I generally include whatever EXIF information I have at hand regarding the image as a courtesy to others. Tho they may not wish to ‘duplicate’ my humble results, they can gain valuable insight as to my interpretation of the subject. /Ralph

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Jan 24, 2018 06:56:29   #
Jim Bob
 
current wrote:
As a new subscriber I appreciate seeing the images submitted and the opportunity to comment, however I would benefit from knowing the lens, f/stop, shutter speed, IOS and camera used. Does anyone else feel this information would add value? I'd love to see this as a prerequisite to submissions.


Very few would submit if required to include EXIF data. Download and check it.

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Jan 24, 2018 07:02:17   #
joer Loc: Colorado/Illinois
 
current wrote:
As a new subscriber I appreciate seeing the images submitted and the opportunity to comment, however I would benefit from knowing the lens, f/stop, shutter speed, IOS and camera used. Does anyone else feel this information would add value? I'd love to see this as a prerequisite to submissions.


It is less important than you may think and only useful as an approximate reference. Your variables will almost always be different than those of the image being viewed.

OTOH I have no objection to posting the information even though its is redundant since it can be obtained from the image's EXIF data.

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Jan 24, 2018 07:04:59   #
Jim Bob
 
joer wrote:
It is less important than you may think and only useful as an approximate reference. Your variables will almost always be different than those of the image being viewed.

OTOH I have no objection to posting the information even though its is redundant since it can be obtained from the image's EXIF data.


You would support posting it as prerequisite to submitting images? Isn't this what the OP asked?

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Jan 24, 2018 07:07:00   #
BebuLamar
 
Jim Bob wrote:
You would support posting it as prerequisite to submitting images? Isn't this what the OP asked?


I such case no because what if I don't have the exif? Image taken with film camera?

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Jan 24, 2018 07:49:55   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
current wrote:
As a new subscriber I appreciate seeing the images submitted and the opportunity to comment, however I would benefit from knowing the lens, f/stop, shutter speed, IOS and camera used. Does anyone else feel this information would add value? I'd love to see this as a prerequisite to submissions.

Some here are almost violently opposed to giving ISO, shutter-speed, aperture data, even though that was routine in the age of film .... In fact, I'm surprised they haven't spoken up here yet. They claim that would be misleading because they do so much Post processing. Apparently, they think in terms of exposure only. I'm more interested in things like Depth of Field and motion blur, but there is no point in arguing with them.

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Jan 24, 2018 07:55:19   #
Jim Bob
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I such case no because what if I don't have the exif? Image taken with film camera?


Not to mention the extra time posting that information on every image would entail. As a crude example, I might wish to submit 5 images taken over a period of 30 minutes during which I made significant changes in camera settings. I don't want to have to recall and post all that data as a prerequisite for submitting images. It's just too burdensome.

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Jan 24, 2018 07:57:30   #
Jim Bob
 
rehess wrote:
Some here are almost violently opposed to giving ISO, shutter-speed, aperture data, even though that was routine in the age of film .... In fact, I'm surprised they haven't spoken up here yet. They claim that would be misleading because they do so much Post processing. Apparently, they think in terms of exposure only. I'm more interested in things like Depth of Field and motion blur, but there is no point in arguing with them.


I suppose posters have varying reasons for opposing such a proposition. For me, it would just be too much trouble.

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Jan 24, 2018 08:16:09   #
steve_stoneblossom Loc: Rhode Island, USA
 
Jim Bob wrote:
Very few would submit if required to include EXIF data. Download and check it.

You are assuming the OP has uploaded the original.

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Jan 24, 2018 08:20:11   #
Dragonfly Loc: Indianapolis
 
I've learned a lot about what lenses can do from looking at the exif data on pictures I liked.
Sometimes beginners can get an idea of what works best that way.
It's not always helpful for sure, but it does help to see it when you're just learning.
I also learned way more by asking questions in the forums I was trying to learn. (birds in flight/on water especially)
It gives you a starting point to learn, but it's for sure not the final outcome.
Playing with the camera and settings helped me learn a lot.
I can tell a big difference from when I first got my camera and my more recent pictures.
And I still have a lot more to learn. But I'm slowly getting there.

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Jan 24, 2018 08:31:17   #
current Loc: Hooper Utah
 
rjaywallace wrote:
I agree completely with UHH member ‘Current’, irregardless of ‘where’ the image is posted. BTW, I believe members should be allowed to post photos wherever they so choose. UHH is, after all, about photography - there should be no restrictions placed here on where those photos are posted. When I post photos, I generally include whatever EXIF information I have at hand regarding the image as a courtesy to others. Tho they may not wish to ‘duplicate’ my humble results, they can gain valuable insight as to my interpretation of the subject. /Ralph
I agree completely with UHH member ‘Current’, irre... (show quote)



My sentiments to a T.

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