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Jan 19, 2018 17:32:17   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
DaveYoung wrote:
Let us review. How many v**es does it take to pass a bill? If you said 60 you are correct.
How many republican v**es are available? If you said 52 you are correct. (51 if McCain is still out)
So we need a minimum of 8 Democrat senators to put country ahead of party.


Let the Republicans blink. McConnell is full of s**t about waiting for the president. If he wasn't trying to make a point the senate could pass a bill bi-partisan, the house could choose to sign on, or not, and they could put it on Trumps desk and he could decide just how badly he wants a shutdown.

I'm pretty passive and don't like a lot of strife, but it's like politics is a knife fight but a few years ago the Republicans started bringing guns. If we stay with the knifes we'll be gone.

They seem to be better at winning, except when they've just tried to govern.

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Jan 19, 2018 17:48:36   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Blurry, for one, it doesn't MATTER what YOU think!! Unless PUTOS calls you for advice, YOU are invisible.
2nd, the republicans control everything. They can't get things past because PUTOS's policies are SOOO fucked up, there aren't snout republicans that will buy into his stupidity.
Don't blame the Dems, look in the mirror, YOU created this monster of a president.
If he wants to get anything done, he will have to stop STRONG ARMING congress, and develops strong enough stand alone policies that they will be bipartisan.
This is YOUR fuck up, you created it, so little boi, try and be a real man, stop crying and suck up the responsibility that came with your FUCK-UP!!!
SS
Blurry, for one, it doesn't MATTER what YOU think!... (show quote)


Total Bulls**t, I suppose that you don't understand or know that a cloture v**e is required to pass the funding bill, Dems are demanding that a permanent DACA bill be included in the funding bill so that the republicans will have no leverage on border security something which the dems, as wonderfully demonstrated by your state, have no interest in.

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Jan 19, 2018 17:51:52   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
thom w wrote:
Let the Republicans blink. McConnell is full of s**t about waiting for the president. If he wasn't trying to make a point the senate could pass a bill bi-partisan, the house could choose to sign on, or not, and they could put it on Trumps desk and he could decide just how badly he wants a shutdown.

I'm pretty passive and don't like a lot of strife, but it's like politics is a knife fight but a few years ago the Republicans started bringing guns. If we stay with the knifes we'll be gone.

They seem to be better at winning, except when they've just tried to govern.
Let the Republicans blink. McConnell is full of s*... (show quote)


WTF are you talking about, if the Senate passes DACA without compromise on other border security measures by the dems you will see the Senate flipped in 2018 because there would be few republicans or independents for that matter that would come to the polls to support the republicans. Maybe you think that the hold up is about funding, if so you are so misinformed, this whole fight is about border security and the dems are willing to shut down the government over it.

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Jan 19, 2018 18:33:23   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
WTF are you talking about, if the Senate passes DACA without compromise on other border security measures by the dems you will see the Senate flipped in 2018 because there would be few republicans or independents for that matter that would come to the polls to support the republicans. Maybe you think that the hold up is about funding, if so you are so misinformed, this whole fight is about border security and the dems are willing to shut down the government over it.


McConnell is full of s**t and so are you.

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Jan 19, 2018 18:43:23   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Total Bulls**t, I suppose that you don't understand or know that a cloture v**e is required to pass the funding bill, Dems are demanding that a permanent DACA bill be included in the funding bill so that the republicans will have no leverage on border security something which the dems, as wonderfully demonstrated by your state, have no interest in.


Total bulls**t, the TURDS can go week to week trying to keep the government running or they've had a year to develop GOOD stand-alone policies. BUT PUTOS was too busy trying to keep unsustainable campaign promises that weren't gonna work then and are even worse now.
The senate can v**e with a simple majority but they know they CAN'T get it and it will be filibustered. They need 60 to avoid the filibuster!
Best to work on good bipartisan bills but they know they will have to give up to much. That's NOT the PUTOAN way!
Or they can wait till Nov. when the Dems will probably control both houses and PUTOS becomes an official Lame Duck!!! LoL
SS
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Jan 19, 2018 18:47:23   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Kraken wrote:
McConnell is full of s**t and so are you.


Says Kraken the Crackhead...

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Jan 19, 2018 18:49:42   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Says Kraken the Crackhead...


And you are still full of s**t and full of yourself.

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Jan 19, 2018 19:29:52   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Although I understand your taking offense at his post I remain very curious at how you found r****m and bigotry in it.


My guess is the wetback word and I must agree with him.

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Jan 19, 2018 20:03:25   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Kraken wrote:
And you are still full of s**t and full of yourself.


Ok, C*****rs, wh**ever you say.

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Jan 19, 2018 20:37:32   #
Frosty Loc: Minnesota
 
Blurryeyed wrote:

WTF are you talking about, if the Senate passes DACA without compromise on other border security measures by the dems you will see the Senate flipped in 2018 because there would be few republicans or independents for that matter that would come to the polls to support the republicans. Maybe you think that the hold up is about funding, if so you are so misinformed, this whole fight is about border security and the dems are willing to shut down the government over it.



It isn't about funding, border security or the country, it's about politics, as you pointed out in the first part of your paragraph.

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Jan 19, 2018 23:08:54   #
EyeSawYou
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Ok, C*****rs, wh**ever you say.


Kraken is a low life pathological liar, nothing I despise more than a liar like him.

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Jan 19, 2018 23:30:09   #
drainbamage
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
Kraken is a low life pathological liar, nothing I despise more than a liar like him.


He's worse than Hannity.

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Jan 19, 2018 23:32:25   #
ArtzDarkroom Loc: Near Disneyland-Orange County, California
 
I wonder if we can look forward to POTUS45 saying, "There are very fine people on both sides..."?
Afterall, if he can cut N**i's a break, will he extend that to Democrats. lol

I doubt it.




Blurryeyed wrote:
If they don't get a stand alone bill passed on protecting the DACA beneficiaries they will shut down the government, they will do so because they do not want Trump to have any leverage on protecting our borders. Hey, I am all for shutting the government down, I certainly won't miss it and I don't think that Trump will try to punish Americans by closing our national parks and open areas as Obama did. 320 million American citizens will suffer simply because the Dems feel that non citizens are more important than the American people.
If they don't get a stand alone bill passed on pro... (show quote)

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Jan 19, 2018 23:57:02   #
WNYShooter Loc: WNY
 
DaveO wrote:
BTW, I could care less if there is a shut down. It just again proves that all incumbents need to be v**ed out. Congress continues to prove that they are incapable of performing business they were hired to do.






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Jan 20, 2018 00:02:35   #
Sjfh
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
If they don't get a stand alone bill passed on protecting the DACA beneficiaries they will shut down the government, they will do so because they do not want Trump to have any leverage on protecting our borders. Hey, I am all for shutting the government down, I certainly won't miss it and I don't think that Trump will try to punish Americans by closing our national parks and open areas as Obama did. 320 million American citizens will suffer simply because the Dems feel that non citizens are more important than the American people.
If they don't get a stand alone bill passed on pro... (show quote)


I’ll be furloughed on Monday. On the upside, I’ve got a lot of work to get done around the house and a dinner party for 20 to prep for.

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