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Jul 9, 2012 08:34:58   #
Sunfish 33 Loc: Merritt Island, Fl
 
These photos were shared with me by a friend. It was taken with his mobile phone on the main entrance gate where I used to work before I retired. I was still working there this time last year when I first discovered a brown widow on the property. No one on my staff (including myself) was aware that there was a brown widow. I have known about the black widow all my life. The brown widow is just as nasty as the black...I think his photos is proof of that. This little snake obviously went after the wrong meal.

I just wanted to share these for interest and awareness.







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Jul 9, 2012 09:23:07   #
mollymolly Loc: In the heart of the Everglades.
 
Thanks for the alert! This is a spider that I will definitely keep my eyes open for!

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Jul 9, 2012 09:41:12   #
Sunfish 33 Loc: Merritt Island, Fl
 
mollymolly wrote:
Thanks for the alert! This is a spider that I will definitely keep my eyes open for!


One other point I would like to share is both black and brown widows have a unique egg sack...I attached an image I picked off the internet....the widows will become aggressive when they have an egg sack and actually attack anything that gets near it...I read this last year when researching the brown version....I then tested it on a brown widow we had found....I was careful but did approach the nest and the brown charged at me...most spiders would retreat to a hiding place when approached.

unique egg sack
unique egg sack...

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Jul 9, 2012 09:58:16   #
mollymolly Loc: In the heart of the Everglades.
 
Sunfish 33 wrote:
mollymolly wrote:
Thanks for the alert! This is a spider that I will definitely keep my eyes open for!


One other point I would like to share is both black and brown widows have a unique egg sack...I attached an image I picked off the internet....the widows will become aggressive when they have an egg sack and actually attack anything that gets near it...I read this last year when researching the brown version....I then tested it on a brown widow we had found....I was careful but did approach the nest and the brown charged at me...most spiders would retreat to a hiding place when approached.
quote=mollymolly Thanks for the alert! This is a ... (show quote)


I see that they have the same 'hour glass' mark on the underside. That is good to know! I have spiders running around the stock room, but, thankfully, none of these.

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Jul 10, 2012 07:03:34   #
SpeedyWilson Loc: Upstate South Carolina
 
Is the snake trapped in the spider's web? Was the snake dead?

How long was the snake?

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Jul 10, 2012 07:21:11   #
glojo Loc: South Devon, England
 
In the UK we like to think we are safe from ANYTHING that can inject us with poisonous venom but unfortunately that is not the case although we thankfully do not have anything that can kill us!!

My garden and the exterior of our property has quite literally DOZENS of False Black Widow spiders and those things can ruin your day.

If these things come indoors my wife insists on my removing them without hurting the wretched things.

What size do you think your spider was and did anyone put those two things together, or was one hunting the other? I am asking as I am curious as to why a spider would want to get involved with something so big? Nice picture and I have attached one which shows our UK equivalent :)



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Jul 10, 2012 07:37:55   #
Blueduck Loc: Maryland
 
Sunfish 33 wrote:
mollymolly wrote:
Thanks for the alert! This is a spider that I will definitely keep my eyes open for!


One other point I would like to share is both black and brown widows have a unique egg sack...I attached an image I picked off the internet....the widows will become aggressive when they have an egg sack and actually attack anything that gets near it...I read this last year when researching the brown version....I then tested it on a brown widow we had found....I was careful but did approach the nest and the brown charged at me...most spiders would retreat to a hiding place when approached.
quote=mollymolly Thanks for the alert! This is a ... (show quote)


I have had a Black Widow attack my lawn tractor when mowing near a cable box . Once she even came after the string trimmer when it was at full speed.

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Jul 10, 2012 07:40:03   #
Blueduck Loc: Maryland
 
glojo wrote:
In the UK we like to think we are safe from ANYTHING that can inject us with poisonous venom but unfortunately that is not the case although we thankfully do not have anything that can kill us!!

My garden and the exterior of our property has quite literally DOZENS of False Black Widow spiders and those things can ruin your day.

If these things come indoors my wife insists on my removing them without hurting the wretched things.

What size do you think your spider was and did anyone put those two things together, or was one hunting the other? I am asking as I am curious as to why a spider would want to get involved with something so big? Nice picture and I have attached one which shows our UK equivalent :)
In the UK we like to think we are safe from ANYTHI... (show quote)


What a beauty. I remove spiders, bugs, etc alive from our home as well, if possible.

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Jul 10, 2012 13:28:53   #
Sunfish 33 Loc: Merritt Island, Fl
 
MisterWilson wrote:
Is the snake trapped in the spider's web? Was the snake dead?

How long was the snake?


I've sent an e-mail asking these questions. The web is holding up the snake, I'm sure he was dead when they found them, I'm guessing this very small snake was maybe 12 inches or so and the spider about the size of a quarter. I'll get more info by the end of today.

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Jul 10, 2012 13:44:01   #
Sunfish 33 Loc: Merritt Island, Fl
 
glojo wrote:
In the UK we like to think we are safe from ANYTHING that can inject us with poisonous venom but unfortunately that is not the case although we thankfully do not have anything that can kill us!!

My garden and the exterior of our property has quite literally DOZENS of False Black Widow spiders and those things can ruin your day.

If these things come indoors my wife insists on my removing them without hurting the wretched things.

What size do you think your spider was and did anyone put those two things together, or was one hunting the other? I am asking as I am curious as to why a spider would want to get involved with something so big? Nice picture and I have attached one which shows our UK equivalent :)
In the UK we like to think we are safe from ANYTHI... (show quote)


Since I didn't take the pictures and wasn't there I have sent an e-mail asking these questions. I'm guessing the little snake went after the spider, unless he got into the web by accident and the spider attacked him, either way I'm certain the spider killed the snake. I'm guessing the spider was between 2 - 3 cm and the snake maybe 30 cm.

I should get some answers by tonight. Thanks for looking and sharing your photo of the false black widow.

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