Pentax K1000 film camera: I had a weak moment and placed a bid on a Pentax K1000 on eBay 4 days before the end of the auction. Just my luck that no one else bid on it. Now I am looking...

NMGal Loc: NE NM

I had a weak moment and placed a bid on a Pentax K1000 on eBay 4 days before the end of the auction. Just my luck that no one else bid on it. Now I am looking forward to receiving it. I downloaded the manual (all 36 pages of it). Am I correct in believing this is a full frame camera? It comes with a 50mm f2 lens. I am thinking of getting a zoom for it. I also have a K-S2 that I want a zoom for. It is a crop frame. I understand I can use a full frame lens on a crop sensor but what about a crop lens on a full frame?

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

Congratulations. It's definitely a full frame 35mm camera. I have two of them. If you use a crop lens on this camera there will be a lot of vignetting of the projected image on the film.
--Bob

NMGal wrote:

I had a weak moment and placed a bid on a Pentax K... (show quote)

rpavich Loc: West Virginia

NMGal wrote:

I had a weak moment and placed a bid on a Pentax K... (show quote)

Is there such a think as a crop frame film camera???? The word "crop frame" just means "smaller sensor than a 35mm camera....doesn't it?

In any case...that K1000 is a great camera and the 50mm f2 is a great lens.

You can get LOTS of great lenses for it off of Ebay...not sure what you mean by crop lenses on full frame??

You just buy a compatible SLR lens and you're good to go.

NMGal Loc: NE NM

rpavich wrote:

Is there such a think as a crop frame film camera???? The word "crop frame" just means "smaller sensor than a 35mm camera....doesn't it?

In any case...that K1000 is a great camera and the 50mm f2 is a great lens.

You can get LOTS of great lenses for it off of Ebay...not sure what you mean by crop lenses on full frame??

You just buy a compatible SLR lens and you're good to go.

Rpavich, yes, my shorthand. Crop frame (aps-c) is smaller than full frame . I just wanted to use the same zoom on both cameras and wondered which I needed to get for best performance on both cameras.

BebuLamar

rpavich wrote:

Is there such a think as a crop frame film camera???? The word "crop frame" just means "smaller sensor than a 35mm camera....doesn't it?

In any case...that K1000 is a great camera and the 50mm f2 is a great lens.

You can get LOTS of great lenses for it off of Ebay...not sure what you mean by crop lenses on full frame??

You just buy a compatible SLR lens and you're good to go.

Well Ralph at least in the Nikon line there was the APS SLR. They can use full frame F mount lenses. Nikon did make lenses for them too but I don't think those lenses can be used on a Nikon film camera though. And then there are a bunch of film cameras that have smaller format than 35mm namely 35mm half frame, 126, 110 etc.. But I do know that nobody called them crop frame back then and I think that is why Ron had a beef with the term full frame.

BebuLamar

I have 2 of them K1000 also but I never used them. I use the KX a lot more often.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

NMGal wrote:

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To answer your question, you can use virtually any K-mount lens on either camera, but "crop" lenses will probably "vignette" on the film camera(*). Also, many modern lenses don't have aperture rings, so you would have no way of controlling the aperture when mounted on the K-1000. Personally, I have a Pentax "Super Program" {slightly newer design than your K-1000} and a Pentax K-30 {slightly older design than your K-S2} and I do sometimes share lenses between the two cameras.

(*) the question of "vignetting" is actually complicated, and Pentax actually did tests when they released their first FF digital camera. For example, my Sigma 10-20mm seems to "vignette", to varying degrees, in the 10-15mm portion of its range.

speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho

NMGal wrote:

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It is a"full frame" camera, because it uses 35mm film!

speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho

rpavich wrote:

Is there such a think as a crop frame film camera???? The word "crop frame" just means "smaller sensor than a 35mm camera....doesn't it?

In any case...that K1000 is a great camera and the 50mm f2 is a great lens.

You can get LOTS of great lenses for it off of Ebay...not sure what you mean by crop lenses on full frame??

You just buy a compatible SLR lens and you're good to go.

They are all full frame cameras, only some use a smaller film format than others, its the same with digital, all are full frame, but some use smaller sensor's than others and hence create a different field of view (they don't crop anything)!

Wanderer2 Loc: Colorado Rocky Mountains

You can find a lot of info on this and any other Pentax product at:

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/

1Feathercrest Loc: NEPA

The K1000 that I owned had a damaged cloth shutter (inquisitive child ) which I wanted to replace. At the time the camera shop told me it would cost as much to replace the shutter as the camera was worth, so I got a newer camera. My old K1000 sits on a bookcase with an assortment of other relic cameras that I can't bear to part with. Still wish I had kept my childhood Brownie, the first camera for this then juvenile budding enthusiast.

BebuLamar

speters wrote:

It is a"full frame" camera, because it uses 35mm film!

Well there cameras that use 35mm film but are not full frame. They are called either half frame or 35mm single frame.

blackest Loc: Ireland

NMGal wrote:

I had a weak moment and placed a bid on a Pentax K... (show quote)

Two parts to it

A crop lens may not cover the full image circle but take the 18-55 DA kit lens for example, it is able to be used on full frame from around 24mm to 55mm. It really is on a case by case basis, there are a lot of lenses usable on both the k-s2 and the K1000.

second part aperture, without an aperture ring you will not be able to set the aperture for the lens. Many lenses have an aperture ring, even those with autofocus, although obviously you will be focusing manually with the focus screen.

You may want to double check the meter reading with the ks2 with a bit of luck the k1000 meter will be accurate. You pretty much need to get the needle spot on for a good exposure and a good negative,

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

BebuLamar wrote:

Well there cameras that use 35mm film but are not full frame. They are called either half frame or 35mm single frame.

You are arguing definitions here. The OP asked which lenses are appropriate for cameras which everyone, including Pentax, identifies by the phrase "Full Frame". The answer is that "DA" lenses will work, but may kick the camera down to what everyone, including Pentax, identifies by the term "crop mode". A "Full Frame" sensor is the same size as a 35mm frame, so a "DFA" lens or a 35mm lens, is guaranteed to cover the entire "Full Frame" image.

Rab-Eye Loc: Indiana

BebuLamar wrote:

I have 2 of them K1000 also but I never used them. I use the KX a lot more often.

You have two bodies you’ve never used? Why keep them, unless you’re a collector?