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Apr 23, 2018 08:42:57   #
davyboy Loc: Anoka Mn.
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Trying to divert the message is usual.

Same as placing folks on 'ignore' while not doing so.

You call yourself 'honest' when you are not.

Since I do not trust you I post a capture of your profile to expose the hypocrisy of your actions..

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Please use capital letters when referring to God. And where does all your frustration and anger come from?

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Apr 23, 2018 08:45:04   #
davyboy Loc: Anoka Mn.
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Funny answer that shows how little you read and comprehend. That is your issue, not mine.


Are you now the one deflecting?

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Apr 23, 2018 08:49:34   #
davyboy Loc: Anoka Mn.
 
Feiertag wrote:
God bless you! B^)


TROLL ELERT!!

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Apr 25, 2018 10:12:30   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
Rongnongno wrote:
The more I live the more I see how christ is used as a sale argument and as a profit/power/influence maker.


Yes..sometimes. We'd all agree that that's bad.

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This by the way is another reason why I do not set foot in any congregation.


C'mon..that's a cop out and you know it. You don't set foot in any congregation because you aren't saved. You are a pagan. That's not an insult, that's the technical term.

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I do not see how folks who claim to be christian can support any politician from any side and become politically 'engaged'. Many compromise their faith by doing so.


Of course you don't see it...you are a pagan. Having said that I can't imagine why I'd discuss biblical issues with a pagan. Suffice it to say, that supporting governmental representatives who aren't sinless doesn't compromise my faith in any way.

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Church leaders who preach toward one or another political idea are false prophets, false leaders and commit sins against god.


How in the world would you know?

I'll leave it at that.

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They push toward something that is morally wrong.


You can't have a moral yardstick that has any meaning without God, so you cannot call what they do morally wrong or right.

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While running program toward charity, food drive and the like, they forget that everything they preach can and will hurt someone. The current rhetoric for/against illegal immigrant is a blatant sample of it. Stay out.


Says the pagan. Sorry...you don't get to direct them as if you have authority.

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Then you have churches where brazen leader ask for donations as 'seeds for wealth'. What kind of crap is that? Why are all those who are appalled by this not calling out the evil in this, the greed openly displayed?


Every real Christian that I know calls fake guys like this out.

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Do you really think that 'paying' some con man will make someone rich? Do you think christ is happy toward those who fall onto that trap? Remember it is our responsibility to speak out and denounce abuse made in the name of christ.


We call out sin where we see it, we call folks to repentance, and we call pagans pagans where we find them.

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What can I add when I see church leaders asking for donations for 'healing'? How about asking 'for a plane' - among other things - to visit folks who live with less than a few dollars per month and could be fed for years with the price of the damned plane????


You seem to keep invoking some moral yardstick as if you have one.

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Why are church leaders so corrupt and no one pays attention? Why is no one called them out?


They do, you just don't know it apparently.

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On another issue i have... Why are church leaders trying to prevent their... flock to make their own decision?


Don't know who you are referring to but how would you know as a pagan?

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Do you not understand that we have allowed these to corrupt everything christ is about?


If you cared what Christ is about you'd heed His words...repent and believe the gospel! Cry out to God for mercy.

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Some will say: "They (leaders) stand for what is right" blatantly ignoring that the 'new' rock they are looking at is sinking in quick sand and they with it.

All this is the result of placing christians in 'small bottles' in order to control them.



See my comments above.

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Have we abandoned all sense of being responsible in front of god? Are we so vile that we sell christ?


No idea what you are babbling about.

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Remember, our bodies are parts of the body of christ. Respect yourself, respect your faith. In doing so you respect christ.


Repent and believe before it's too late.

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Apr 25, 2018 11:34:44   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
rpavich wrote:
Repent and believe before it's too late.

Just shows what you understand: Nothing.

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Apr 26, 2018 06:32:40   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Yet it is the best way to spread the word but never-mind this aspect.

Your reasoning is:
- I know
- You don't
- Screw you
then
- 'repent and....'

How do you want anyone to repent to anything if there is no knowledge/recognition of a sin?


Everyone knows. That's what the bible teaches. My authority is God's word.

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Funny that 'our justice system' recognizes that when one was out of one's mind while committing a crime one is recognized not guilty. Seems to me that you forgot one thing: You are not the arm of god delivering anything to anyone. Your 'repent' is meaningless. You are the greater sinner here.


I don't care what the justice system says or does; I care what God has said, He's my authority. Now repent and believe the gospel before it's too late.

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Reading the bible, even as a fantasy book, can open one's mind and heart. If one who has not 'repented' as you put it cannot ask questions about it - study in not so many words - you slam the damned door in their faces. You are condemning yourself, not them.


God must open a human's heart, that's what the bible says. I encourage all pagans to read God's word, the message of the bible is: repent and believe and be saved.

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What are you really afraid of? Be corrupted? Is your faith so weak that you cannot accept folks who do not see what to see - or think you see -????


I'm not afraid of anything here on earth. I realize many folks disagree with me. I just proclaim the truth as I'm commanded to do.

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Personally I love folks to be witness of what they cannot understand. Then they have questions that appear offensive like 'WTF?' or 'you believe in this s***?'

My answer usually are
"WTF?"
- You saw/read/heard it as I did
"You believe in this s***?"
- Yup, and proud of it. I even joke about it.


You don't believe it anymore than any other pagan does.

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Keep the door open, start a non confrontational dialogue, do not take insults or put downs as anything but the proof there is a need for you be a witness, not an 'avenging angel of death'. This is what you are supposed to do, share, share and share again, even if someone spits on you.


What I'm supposed to do is proclaim the truth. That's what the command is; love other humans enough to be truthful with them. Tell them that unless they repent, they will be punished in Hell forever. I don't massage other folk's egos and be buddies just so that they'll approve of me. That's ludicrous. I don't whisper in their ear.."hey...I hope you're not offended...I'd like to be your friend...the building my be warmer than it should be..." No...I say "the buildings on fire! leave now while you can!!! you are in peril!!!" because that's the situation. They are in peril and it's more serious than any burning building.

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Your language studies using the bible is one thing, your use of it another. At the moment you just show that you maybe a good/excellent linguist but the rest??? You have not learned anything. You are lost in words. You are lost to the world.

Wake up.


Like I said...I expect nothing less from a pagan and as I've said before, I don't do bible studies with pagans.

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Apr 26, 2018 06:37:32   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Just shows what you understand: Nothing.


I understand that you are a pagan and what I said is the truth. There is only one authority and He said those words and commanded me to do the same.

They are repugnant to men who are perishing but to those who are saved it is the power of God.

Like the Paul says;

“For Christ did not send me to baptize but to preach the gospel, and not with words of eloquent wisdom, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power.

For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

For it is written, “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and the discernment of the discerning I will thwart.””

(1 Corinthians 1:17–19 ESV)

God will save whom He will, I just preach the truth and let Him do His work. He cannot and will not fail to save those whom He chose before the foundation of the world.

So again I say to you...repent and you will find God to be a merciful savior.

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Apr 26, 2018 09:56:46   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
You are not preaching anything. You refuse to admit that you and your ilk abuse god under the false pretext of being 'christian'. You are anything BUT.

Sell god all you want. When there is a reckoning you will cry. I will not.

Christ, in any shape and form, is not for sale. Christ does not support all those weird ideas folks like you come up with. Your 'education' is crap, sorry. It led you the wrong way. Christ is free. He let us make choices. From those choices come freedom, liberation.

Everything in our life is a choice. We are responsible. If one selects to go astray, it is that person's choice.

Make what you want out of this, it really does not matter: It is YOUR choice.

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May 9, 2018 09:51:33   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Hebrews 11:6 "But without faith it is impossible to please Him. For he that cometh to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him." (NIV)

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May 9, 2018 16:25:30   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Funny answers. Instead of addressing the issue of selling Christ you folks go onto something else that is not irrelevant but rather odd.

Are you by any chance selling Christ?

How much do you get for prostituting your faith and integrity in order to gain not only $$$ but political influence? How far will you debase yourself? What do you think this will do in the end?

'Repent' indeed.

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May 9, 2018 22:19:53   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
The one time Jesus became angry was when He cast out the moneychangers in the Temple. Instead of individuals bringing their own sacrifices from a distance, the moneychangers would sell animals for money at the Temple. God knows mens' hearts whether they are true or not. Paul addressed this problem himself, but came to the conclusion that "nevertheless the Gospel is preached." Don't brand all of Christianity because you see some using it for profit. Look for the Truth in it....the Gospel of Jesus Christ, the way to a relationship with God, and the way to a Godly life.

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May 30, 2018 19:00:57   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
And yet another example of selling christ to a flock who has no clue as to what christ is about.

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May 30, 2018 19:59:13   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Rongnongno wrote:
And yet another example of selling christ to a flock who has no clue as to what christ is about.


I'll take my chances.

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