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The more I live the more I see how christ is used as a sale argument and as a profit/power/influence maker.
Yes..sometimes. We'd all agree that that's bad.
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This by the way is another reason why I do not set foot in any congregation.
C'mon..that's a cop out and you know it. You don't set foot in any congregation because you aren't saved. You are a pagan. That's not an insult, that's the technical term.
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I do not see how folks who claim to be christian can support any politician from any side and become politically 'engaged'. Many compromise their faith by doing so.
Of course you don't see it...you are a pagan. Having said that I can't imagine why I'd discuss biblical issues with a pagan. Suffice it to say, that supporting governmental representatives who aren't sinless doesn't compromise my faith in any way.
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Church leaders who preach toward one or another political idea are false prophets, false leaders and commit sins against god.
How in the world would you know?
I'll leave it at that.
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They push toward something that is morally wrong.
You can't have a moral yardstick that has any meaning without God, so you cannot call what they do morally wrong or right.
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While running program toward charity, food drive and the like, they forget that everything they preach can and will hurt someone. The current rhetoric for/against illegal immigrant is a blatant sample of it. Stay out.
Says the pagan. Sorry...you don't get to direct them as if you have authority.
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Then you have churches where brazen leader ask for donations as 'seeds for wealth'. What kind of crap is that? Why are all those who are appalled by this not calling out the evil in this, the greed openly displayed?
Every real Christian that I know calls fake guys like this out.
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Do you really think that 'paying' some con man will make someone rich? Do you think christ is happy toward those who fall onto that trap? Remember it is our responsibility to speak out and denounce abuse made in the name of christ.
We call out sin where we see it, we call folks to repentance, and we call pagans pagans where we find them.
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What can I add when I see church leaders asking for donations for 'healing'? How about asking 'for a plane' - among other things - to visit folks who live with less than a few dollars per month and could be fed for years with the price of the damned plane????
You seem to keep invoking some moral yardstick as if you have one.
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Why are church leaders so corrupt and no one pays attention? Why is no one called them out?
They do, you just don't know it apparently.
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On another issue i have... Why are church leaders trying to prevent their... flock to make their own decision?
Don't know who you are referring to but how would you know as a pagan?
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Do you not understand that we have allowed these to corrupt everything christ is about?
If you cared what Christ is about you'd heed His words...repent and believe the gospel! Cry out to God for mercy.
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Some will say: "They (leaders) stand for what is right" blatantly ignoring that the 'new' rock they are looking at is sinking in quick sand and they with it.
All this is the result of placing christians in 'small bottles' in order to control them.
See my comments above.
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Have we abandoned all sense of being responsible in front of god? Are we so vile that we sell christ?
No idea what you are babbling about.
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Remember, our bodies are parts of the body of christ. Respect yourself, respect your faith. In doing so you respect christ.
Repent and believe before it's too late.