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Jan 12, 2018 10:43:52   #
Trustforce Loc: Chicago, Illinois
 
When you think about it, developing a new camera in this market is a tricky business.  Look at how most of your friends are taking pictures.  Fewer and fewer are using real cameras, because "it is so convenient to use my smartphone."  We who haunt the dpreview and uglyhedgehog are becoming a smaller and smaller population segment, but at the same token, a more demanding one.  That is why the Nikon D850 is doing well, and the Sony A7riii and high end Canon still have a niche.

There is a real demand for entry level FX sensor cameras, as enthusiasts have migrated from film some time ago, but are less than happy with DX limitations.  I am one of those people, but I've saved up the money to buy a D850 and new lenses (but can still use my old film Nikkor AI lenses in manual mode).  Sure, I would have considered a newer, improved version of the D750, but it is not going to be cheap either.  Frankly, I get tired of reading the same old wish lists and "what to expect" lists.  If the D850 is too much money, just wait.  Nikon knows the D610 and D750 need to be done over, as there is a market segment to be exploited.  Their research and development is not influenced by these forums, but is affected by market demand and improvements in technology.  Production costs and marketability will determine the introduction of the next FX sensor Nikon cameras.

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Jan 12, 2018 11:05:14   #
d3200prime
 
Trustforce wrote:
When you think about it, developing a new camera in this market is a tricky business.  Look at how most of your friends are taking pictures.  Fewer and fewer are using real cameras, because "it is so convenient to use my smartphone."  We who haunt the dpreview and uglyhedgehog are becoming a smaller and smaller population segment, but at the same token, a more demanding one.  That is why the Nikon D850 is doing well, and the Sony A7riii and high end Canon still have a niche.

There is a real demand for entry level FX sensor cameras, as enthusiasts have migrated from film some time ago, but are less than happy with DX limitations.  I am one of those people, but I've saved up the money to buy a D850 and new lenses (but can still use my old film Nikkor AI lenses in manual mode).  Sure, I would have considered a newer, improved version of the D750, but it is not going to be cheap either.  Frankly, I get tired of reading the same old wish lists and "what to expect" lists.  If the D850 is too much money, just wait.  Nikon knows the D610 and D750 need to be done over, as there is a market segment to be exploited.  Their research and development is not influenced by these forums, but is affected by market demand and improvements in technology.  Production costs and marketability will determine the introduction of the next FX sensor Nikon cameras.
When you think about it, developing a new camera i... (show quote)


Personally I would jump at the opportunity to purchase a DSLR without video, wi-fi and all the other features that make them so blasted expensive. All many photographers need is a camera. All the other technology just adds a lot of cost which I would rather put in lenses. Give me a DSLR that takes photos and photos only. I can get all the other technology, if I want it, from a myriad of other products. I really believe there is a huge market for this and average folks will flock to it because of the practicality and lower cost. This probably won't happen but I can dream can't I?

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Jan 12, 2018 11:09:30   #
BebuLamar
 
d3200prime wrote:
Personally I would jump at the opportunity to purchase a DSLR without video, wi-fi and all the other features that make them so blasted expensive. All many photographers need is a camera. All the other technology just adds a lot of cost which I would rather put in lenses. Give me a DSLR that takes photos and photos only. I can get all the other technology, if I want it, from a myriad of other products. I really believe there is a huge market for this and average folks will flock to it because of the practicality and lower cost. This probably won't happen but I can dream can't I?
Personally I would jump at the opportunity to purc... (show quote)


There are people who like you who don't want to pay for those features they don't use but in reality you can't avoid it. If a manufacturer like Nikon makes a camera exactly like the D750 but doesn't have video would cost them only a little bit less to make but they can't sell it. If they make just a few then the cost would be significantly higher.

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Jan 12, 2018 11:14:58   #
ghog70
 
I'm getting tired of reading about Canon and Nikon

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Jan 12, 2018 11:16:42   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
Trustforce wrote:
Frankly, I get tired of reading the same old wish lists and "what to expect" lists.

Why do you read them in the first place? I certainly don't read that stuff. It really doesn't take much effort to avoid these fantasy camera lists and feature rumors if you don't want to see them.

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Jan 12, 2018 11:30:56   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
Trustforce wrote:
When you think about it, developing a new camera in this market is a tricky business.  Look at how most of your friends are taking pictures.  Fewer and fewer are using real cameras, because "it is so convenient to use my smartphone."  We who haunt the dpreview and uglyhedgehog are becoming a smaller and smaller population segment, but at the same token, a more demanding one.  That is why the Nikon D850 is doing well, and the Sony A7riii and high end Canon still have a niche.

There is a real demand for entry level FX sensor cameras, as enthusiasts have migrated from film some time ago, but are less than happy with DX limitations.  I am one of those people, but I've saved up the money to buy a D850 and new lenses (but can still use my old film Nikkor AI lenses in manual mode).  Sure, I would have considered a newer, improved version of the D750, but it is not going to be cheap either.  Frankly, I get tired of reading the same old wish lists and "what to expect" lists.  If the D850 is too much money, just wait.  Nikon knows the D610 and D750 need to be done over, as there is a market segment to be exploited.  Their research and development is not influenced by these forums, but is affected by market demand and improvements in technology.  Production costs and marketability will determine the introduction of the next FX sensor Nikon cameras.
When you think about it, developing a new camera i... (show quote)


Nikon, Canon and other brands are in business to make money. If they felt there was a profitable market for an upgraded entry level FX camera, they would release one.

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Jan 12, 2018 11:31:17   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
rook2c4 wrote:
Why do you read them in the first place? I certainly don't read that stuff. It really doesn't take much effort to avoid these fantasy camera lists and feature rumors if you don't want to see them.



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Jan 12, 2018 12:50:31   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
Trustforce wrote:
Sure, I would have considered a newer, improved version of the D750, but it is not going to be cheap either.


"Cheap" is always a matter of opinion. Nikons has never increased the price of ANY linear upgrade camera model. The D850 is a prime example as it replaced the D810, which in turn replaced the D800E. All three of these models were released at the exact same $3299 price point. Another great example is the D90, D7000, D7100, D7200 cameras. All direct linear upgrades of the same model and ALL were released at the exact same $1099 price point. The D750 was the introductory camera in its lineage and was released at $1999. Any Nikon user considering its upgrade version would expect to pay the same $1999 for it.
So where is your personal rationale coming from?

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Jan 12, 2018 14:47:04   #
Trustforce Loc: Chicago, Illinois
 
Your claim of price stability would be more viable if the price of D7500 were not $1246.95

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Jan 12, 2018 14:54:19   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
Trustforce wrote:
Your claim of price stability would be more viable if the price of D7500 were not $1246.95


The D7500 is an entirely new model, same as the D750 was. It is NOT a direct linear upgrade of any camera model.

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Jan 12, 2018 19:45:18   #
SueScott Loc: Hammondsville, Ohio
 
d3200prime wrote:
Personally I would jump at the opportunity to purchase a DSLR without video, wi-fi and all the other features that make them so blasted expensive. All many photographers need is a camera. All the other technology just adds a lot of cost which I would rather put in lenses. Give me a DSLR that takes photos and photos only. I can get all the other technology, if I want it, from a myriad of other products. I really believe there is a huge market for this and average folks will flock to it because of the practicality and lower cost. This probably won't happen but I can dream can't I?
Personally I would jump at the opportunity to purc... (show quote)


That's really an excellent idea - a camera that does nothing but take beautiful and affordable still pictures! Isn't that why the old brownie cameras were so popular for such a long time?

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Jan 13, 2018 04:17:18   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
Trustforce wrote:
When you think about it, developing a new camera in this market is a tricky business.  Look at how most of your friends are taking pictures.  Fewer and fewer are using real cameras, because "it is so convenient to use my smartphone."  We who haunt the dpreview and uglyhedgehog are becoming a smaller and smaller population segment, but at the same token, a more demanding one.  That is why the Nikon D850 is doing well, and the Sony A7riii and high end Canon still have a niche.

There is a real demand for entry level FX sensor cameras, as enthusiasts have migrated from film some time ago, but are less than happy with DX limitations.  I am one of those people, but I've saved up the money to buy a D850 and new lenses (but can still use my old film Nikkor AI lenses in manual mode).  Sure, I would have considered a newer, improved version of the D750, but it is not going to be cheap either.  Frankly, I get tired of reading the same old wish lists and "what to expect" lists.  If the D850 is too much money, just wait.  Nikon knows the D610 and D750 need to be done over, as there is a market segment to be exploited.  Their research and development is not influenced by these forums, but is affected by market demand and improvements in technology.  Production costs and marketability will determine the introduction of the next FX sensor Nikon cameras.
When you think about it, developing a new camera i... (show quote)

I have neither read of nor heard any such rumors.

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Jan 13, 2018 05:51:49   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
SueScott wrote:
That's really an excellent idea - a camera that does nothing but take beautiful and affordable still pictures! Isn't that why the old brownie cameras were so popular for such a long time?


Nikon Df.

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Jan 13, 2018 06:27:45   #
jdub82 Loc: Northern California
 
d3200prime wrote:
Personally I would jump at the opportunity to purchase a DSLR without video, wi-fi and all the other features that make them so blasted expensive. All many photographers need is a camera. All the other technology just adds a lot of cost which I would rather put in lenses. Give me a DSLR that takes photos and photos only. I can get all the other technology, if I want it, from a myriad of other products. I really believe there is a huge market for this and average folks will flock to it because of the practicality and lower cost. This probably won't happen but I can dream can't I?
Personally I would jump at the opportunity to purc... (show quote)


There is such a camera. It is the Nikon Df. The price point is similar to other entry level full frame cameras. Full frame sensor, no video, and has a retro look as well. My son really likes this camera.

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Jan 13, 2018 06:39:15   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
MT Shooter wrote:
The D750 was the introductory camera in its lineage and was released at $1999. Any Nikon user considering its upgrade version would expect to pay the same $1999 for it.
So where is your personal rationale coming from?


The D750 was originally $2,296. The price was lowered $300 in April, 2015. I bought a D750 for the higher price just before Nikon lowered it. I contacted the store - Robert's Camera - and they refunded me the difference.

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