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Jan 6, 2018 00:36:15   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
berchman wrote:
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A single question: Why always go on a 'tour'?

You have more adventures, make more discoveries and get a personal contact with other folks - even if you do not speak the language -.

My wife and I went to Jordan. The only place they did speak english was the hotel in Amman. We got lost a few times but every single time we met folks willing to help us. One we are still in touch despite the language. Google translate becomes a treasure of laughs too.

Tripod while traveling for pleasure? Heck no. I even leave my camera in the hotel main safe. - Don't trust the bedroom safe -.

Now if you travel for a job or for the pleasure of taking pictures? Make sure you have a wagon with you or coolies, I doubt your wife or friends will be thrilled carrying your stuff of being used as tripod...

Just saying.

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Jan 6, 2018 00:59:57   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
Rongnongno wrote:
A single question: Why always go on a 'tour'?

You have more adventures, make more discoveries and get a personal contact with other folks - even if you do not speak the language -.

My wife and I went to Jordan. The only place they did speak english was the hotel in Amman. We got lost a few times but every single time we met folks willing to help us. One we are still in touch despite the language. Google translate becomes a treasure of laughs too.

Tripod while traveling for pleasure? Heck no. I even leave my camera in the hotel main safe. - Don't trust the bedroom safe -.

Now if you travel for a job or for the pleasure of taking pictures? Make sure you have a wagon with you or coolies, I doubt your wife or friends will be thrilled carrying your stuff of being used as tripod...

Just saying.
A single question: Why always go on a 'tour'? br ... (show quote)


I have to carrry the camera for my wife. She just says "camera please" when she wants to take a pic. Then she hands it back to me.

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Jan 6, 2018 08:31:36   #
Fotomacher Loc: Toronto
 
I have been on group tours and you’re 110% correct. No time to use a tripod, I did not even think about taking either a tripod or a monopod. However, I would take a bean bag next time. Goes in your pocket and provides a stable rest better than a rock. PS, I have also been on photo tours but like you, photo tours are not always available or affordable.

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Jan 6, 2018 09:11:07   #
alggomas Loc: Wales, United Kingdom.
 
I suggest a selfie stick with mobile phone. All other shots with your bridge or DSLR.
You can also buy a small tripod or gorrillapod. Check first,that these allow you to screw in the mobile phone grip of the selfie stick! So no movement when taking photo.
Check with travel company to see time factors for photos.
Practice putting up the tripod if taking.
Some tripods have a locking bit which you can keep attached to camera so you just clip on tripod.

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Jan 6, 2018 10:34:01   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
berchman wrote:
If you take a travel tripod on a small group tour, given the pace of such tours, when do you have the opportunity to set up a tripod and take pictures? The tours I have been on with Overseas Adventure Travel (small groups not exceeding 16) keep you moving from early in the morning to after dinner. I barely have time to grab shots which I do while the guide is talking to the group and sometimes I have gotten so absorbed that the group has moved on and I don't know where they have gone. In those cases (which I try to minimize, not wanting to be a pariah), I just remain where I am so I can be found. (I also explain to the tour guide at the beginning of the tour that photography is my main interest so don't be insulted if I'm not listening to the lecture.)

You may ask why I don't go on photography tours and the reason is that I can't afford them. Even in those cases where it's just me and my wife and another couple who are friends touring (India, Burma, Iran), it imposes a burden on the non-photographers to go around setting up a tripod. I probably don't know what I'm doing, but on the rare occasions that I've bothered with a tripod (Induro C214 8X CF and RSS B40 head) when on a field trip with my camera club, it is a major pain to get the tripod at just the right height for the shot, especially since I've been warned not to use the center column because it reduces stability. It just takes a long time fooling with the legs.
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Why not just go on your own?
I never have figured out why people enjoy being herded around to preselected spots.
Go on your own, get lost and find amazing gems to photograph that are not the same old crap one sees on a tour that everyone else has seen and photographed a million times over and over.

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Jan 6, 2018 10:54:26   #
Tinkerbell Loc: Bethalto IL
 
I have a Manfrotto MMXPROA3BUS with hidden feet if needed. It safely holds my 70D with a flash mounted on a stroboframe that allows me to flip the camera to vertical so my flash stays uniform, reduces or eliminates unwanted shadows.

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Jan 6, 2018 11:27:43   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Why not just go on your own?
I never have figured out why people enjoy being herded around to preselected spots.
Go on your own, get lost and find amazing gems to photograph that are not the same old crap one sees on a tour that everyone else has seen and photographed a million times over and over.


My wife and I use bus tours as a scouting mission. From these bus trips we plan our return trip by ourselves and on this second trip we plan our own itinerary.

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Jan 6, 2018 12:15:12   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
We've never taken a bus tour, but we may need to as we age {as of last month I am now 70 years old}

I do own a tripod, but I hardly ever use it; my style of photography favors shutter speeds 1/250 or higher {I like unposed photographs including random people} and now my cameras have InBody Image Stabilization; our touring includes a lot of walking, and a tripod would just slow us down and add to the load I carry, so quite honestly I don't understand why someone would want to lug a tripod with them.

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Jan 6, 2018 12:23:12   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
rehess wrote:
We've never taken a bus tour, but we may need to as we age {as of last month I am now 70 years old}

I do own a tripod, but I hardly ever use it; my style of photography favors shutter speeds 1/250 or higher {I like unposed photographs including random people} and now my cameras have InBody Image Stabilization; our touring includes a lot of walking, and a tripod would just slow us down and add to the load I carry, so quite honestly I don't understand why someone would want to lug a tripod with them.
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For tours I would agree. I have observed groups and chuckled at them being herded around and completely miss a fantastic photo op just around the corner from the "Famous" over shot thing they are looking at.

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Jan 6, 2018 12:54:16   #
RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia
 
Architect1776 wrote:
For tours I would agree. I have observed groups and chuckled at them being herded around and completely miss a fantastic photo op just around the corner from the "Famous" over shot thing they are looking at.


The thing is with tours there are no real worries and no problems. You do see a lot, however you have very little experiences.

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Jan 6, 2018 13:18:55   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
RichardTaylor wrote:
The thing is with tours there are no real worries and no problems. You do see a lot, however you have very little experiences.


Worries, Problems? Hmmmm
Never had any around the world so far.

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Jan 6, 2018 13:33:17   #
bcrawf
 
RichardTaylor wrote:
The thing is with tours there are no real worries and no problems. You do see a lot, however you have very little experiences.


Tours differ, of course. Those we have been on (cruises) were well conducted to provide a combination of opportunities and information, with free time in which we could further explore on our own. If a person just sits on the boat/ship or in the hotel room except for going on the "overview" outings, that would certainly limit the experience. It also makes a difference whether the traveler has done some reading in preparation for the trip.

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Jan 6, 2018 13:43:52   #
planepics Loc: St. Louis burbs, but originally Chicago burbs
 
One of my bucket list trips would be to try to replicate a one-month tour to Australia and New Zealand (more then a year's net pay in my current job) but do it solo and taking at least twice as long to do it...maybe buy a used camper over there and sell it back when I'm done. I checked AirBNB and saw that I could save gobs of money each night over the hotels that I would be put up in on the tours. A visa can be used for up to 3 months at a time and know a few people in different states I could probably stay with (Perth and metro Melbourne) that I drove to Oshkosh from O'Hare and Midway over the past 5 yrs or so. At least they generally speak the same language over there although the terms can be quite different.

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Jan 6, 2018 16:03:51   #
cambriaman Loc: Central CA Coast
 
I have found a tripod a hinderance in more ways than one and have left them behind. Even monopods become a nuisance to yourself and others. I suggest practicing various techniques to hold your camera steady and practicing a bit before you travel. I also suggest a larger ISO (at least 400 or higher) to help reduce camera motion problems. Most modern digital cameras yield excellent results at the higher ISOs.

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Jan 6, 2018 17:15:52   #
bcrawf
 
planepics wrote:
One of my bucket list trips would be to try to replicate a one-month tour to Australia and New Zealand (more then a year's net pay in my current job) but do it solo and taking at least twice as long to do it...maybe buy a used camper over there and sell it back when I'm done. I checked AirBNB and saw that I could save gobs of money each night over the hotels that I would be put up in on the tours. A visa can be used for up to 3 months at a time and know a few people in different states I could probably stay with (Perth and metro Melbourne) that I drove to Oshkosh from O'Hare and Midway over the past 5 yrs or so. At least they generally speak the same language over there although the terms can be quite different.
One of my bucket list trips would be to try to rep... (show quote)


Renting the camper should be investigated to compare with purchase/resale (with all the insurance, licensing, resale costs and uncertainties).

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