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Dec 27, 2017 07:48:52   #
DIRTY HARRY Loc: Hartland, Michigan
 
The formula to determine COLA was put together by the administration of Richard M Nixon and has not been update. No need to do anything because they are coming after your S.S. and Medicare this year ... after all they are just entitlements and "free money"

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Dec 27, 2017 08:22:47   #
RICKO
 
Yes, Edward G. Robinson became soylent green. Almost all sci-fi movies were showing us the future, and the future is here!

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Dec 27, 2017 08:34:49   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
drainbamage wrote:
Does anyone have any insight on why our government has not given a raise to Social Security benefits for retirees? It's been about 20 years.

As we all know who are retired the Government COLA trends always show that if SS recipients get a raise (no matter what the percentage) , then Medicare premiums go up approximately the same amount.

Meanwhile the cost of living goes up and up...food, gas, rent, premiums.

I wonder why no one cares that Seniors are dealt this crappy hand, when they paid into it all their lives. Shouldn't their existence matter?

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad I can reap back what I paid into the system that forced me to pay, but why is it that once we retire, our income stays the same while everything else goes up.

I know you're going to say I should have saved better - and I DID. We had a major medical crisis (actually two) that wiped out our savings. We are glad we have SS to lean on after all that, and that we are still alive. But I wonder why not a single elderly person who receives Social Security payments have not had an increase in their payments for at least 20 years (that I've researched.)
Does anyone have any insight on why our government... (show quote)


http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2013/feb/01/medicare-and-social-security-what-you-paid-what-yo/ Interesting read.

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Dec 27, 2017 08:36:12   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
RICKO wrote:
Yes, Edward G. Robinson became soylent green. Almost all sci-fi movies were showing us the future, and the future is here!


What happened to Charleton Heston??

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Dec 27, 2017 09:06:12   #
Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA
 
We have been setup the past few weeks. Ryan and his Ayn Rand friends are coming after our SS and medicare.
What he calls "entitlements".
These are clowns who have allowed predatory banking and financial options. A bank can charge 20% on a credit card
and then offers a 1% interest on grandma's nest egg. Health Care costs are so high that many good people have
been bankrupted caring for family.
I was in great shape in 2008 wanted to be the backup for my grown children and grandchildren.
After the Wall street nonsense everything changed.
Then incompetence in our government is amazing.

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Dec 27, 2017 09:14:01   #
mrpentaxk5ii
 
ole sarg wrote:
I read all this nonsense and yet I will bet each of you grippers voted for the GOP!

Of course you are all wrong but ignorance is bliss!

Making Sen$e Nov 20, 2017 3:56 PM EST
The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) has announced that the 2018 premium for Part B of Medicare will remain at $134 a month. But even with no change, millions of Social Security recipients will pay sharply higher Part B premiums that will eat up all or most of next year’s 2 percent cost of living adjustment (COLA) for Social Security.

To explain why, let’s back up and explain some basic facts of Medicare. Part B covers insured expenses for doctors, outpatient services and durable medical equipment. (The other component of basic Medicare is Part A, which covers hospital and nursing home expenses.)

Increases in Medicare premiums can’t cause a person’s Social Security benefits to decline from one year to the next, according to Social Security’s “hold harmless” rule. About 30 percent of Medicare beneficiaries are not held harmless each year. This group includes people who have not yet begun receiving Social Security benefits, new enrollees in 2018, low-income people whose Medicare premiums are paid by state Medicaid agencies, and people who pay Medicare’s high-income premium surcharges.

Recent COLAs have been very small – zero in 2016 and 0.3 percent this year – so increases in Part B premiums were either eliminated or reduced for most of the 70 percent of Medicare enrollees who have Part B premiums automatically deducted from their monthly Social Security payments.

Those hold-harmless reductions will disappear next year for most people, with some or all of their 2 percent COLA increases eaten up by increases in their Part B premiums. The numbers here can be confusing, so please bear with me.

According to CMS, 60 percent of those who will be held harmless in 2018 (equal to 42 percent of all Part B enrollees) will pay the full Part B premium. In other words, the 2 percent COLA will generate enough increased benefits for them to pay $134 without reducing their net Social Security benefits.

For the other 40 percent of those held harmless (28 percent of all Part B enrollees), their Social Security COLA increase will not be sufficient to cover the entire Part B premium. They will pay a range of smaller Part B premiums, based on their 2018 COLAs.

To figure out how this will affect you, subtract your current Part B premium from $134. Then multiply your current monthly Social Security benefit by 2 percent. Your 2018 Part B premium change should be the smaller of these two numbers. Add this figure to your 2017 premium to determine what you will pay next year. Like I said, it’s confusing.

One thing is clear: Many Social Security recipients will receive little if any boost in their benefits next year. And while most of these folks have been shielded by the hold-harmless rule from paying the full Part B premiums in recent years, I don’t expect any of them to send thanks for this to the folks at Social Security and Medicare who came up with this system for determining Medicare premiums.

Here are other important 2018 benchmark numbers announced by CMS:

The Part B annual deductible will be unchanged at $183.
The Part A annual deductible will rise by $24 to $1,340 from $1,316. There is a separate deductible for each hospital stay, usually defined as being separated by at least 60 days during a calendar year.
The Part A coinsurance charge for hospitalizations lasting from 61 to 90 days will rise by $6 to $335 a day in a benefit period; for lifetime reserve days linked to longer stays, it will rise $12 to $670 a day. The coinsurance charge for skilled nursing facility stays lasting from 21 to 100 days in a benefit period will increase by $3 to $167.50.
People who have worked at least 40 quarters in jobs where they paid Social Security payroll taxes qualify for premium-free Part A. The Part A premiums for people with 30 to 40 quarters of coverage will rise by $5 to $232 a month. For those with fewer than 30 quarters, it will increase $9 to $422 a month.
The amounts of Medicare’s high-income Part B surcharges won’t change next year but the income brackets used to determine a person’s surcharge will be altered in a way that exposes more people to higher surcharges. The amounts of the Part D surcharges will decline slightly, but the change in income brackets will also expose more people to higher surcharges.
/www.pbs.org/newshour/economy/making-sense/medicare-announced-its-premiums-for-2018-heres-what-you-need-to-know
I read all this nonsense and yet I will bet each o... (show quote)

For the last 8 years before trump we had O'Bama, before that Clinton and Carter so the Dummycrats are just as much to blame.

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Dec 27, 2017 09:22:07   #
nospambob Loc: Edmond, Oklahoma
 
drainbamage wrote:

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad I can reap back what I paid into the system that forced me to pay


Not to be technical, but I suspect we all only gain back a portion of what we've pain in.

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Dec 27, 2017 09:30:37   #
Jerry Darter
 
Yes I mine got a 2% raise but the Medicaid wiped that out and is get $13.00 less each month!!👎👎🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

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Dec 27, 2017 10:00:56   #
Allie
 
To Ole Sarge who referred to Dummycrats: If it weren't for the Democratic Party you would not have Social Security, Medicare, at all--programs that the Democrats fought so hard for and Republicans fought against from the beginning. They fought against Social Security the same way they are fighting against Obamacare now. (In 1936 Alf Landon ran on "abolish Social Security)." Just wait until next year, when Paul Ryan recently promised that they would go after health care and other costs.

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Dec 27, 2017 10:02:30   #
Pepsiman Loc: New York City
 
Norman Bouchey wrote:
Yea right! I got a raise. It went to Medicare!


I got a $20 raise, Medicare increase was $30. I lost another $10...

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Dec 27, 2017 10:03:11   #
jsmangis Loc: Peoria, IL
 
I agree, while Social Security is less that 20% of my retirement income (my union pensions are quite sufficient), I am still disappointed by how Congress has decided to 'reward' us with their paltry increases. Perhaps if we elect people who are not in the 'pocket' of the oligarchs, they might govern more fairly for the majority of Americans who aren't rich. If Congress had the same income and healthcare as those of us who are retired, things might change.

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Dec 27, 2017 10:16:20   #
jgm
 
Allie wrote:
To Ole Sarge who referred to Dummycrats: If it weren't for the Democratic Party you would not have Social Security, Medicare, at all--programs that the Democrats fought so hard for and Republicans fought against from the beginning. They fought against Social Security the same way they are fighting against Obamacare now. (In 1936 Alf Landon ran on "abolish Social Security)." Just wait until next year, when Paul Ryan recently promised that they would go after health care and other costs.
To Ole Sarge who referred to Dummycrats: If it we... (show quote)


Spot on

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Dec 27, 2017 10:27:19   #
drainbamage
 
dcampbell52 wrote:
Hmmm... I got a $32 raise in my SS.


Did your Medicare premiums go up?

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Dec 27, 2017 10:39:24   #
drainbamage
 
nospambob wrote:
Not to be technical, but I suspect we all only gain back a portion of what we've pain in.


I suppose it depends on how long we live after retirement. Some people only live a few years, and others live 20-30 years. (And some people die before they get what they paid into it back...)

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Dec 27, 2017 10:42:18   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
DIRTY HARRY wrote:
The formula to determine COLA was put together by the administration of Richard M Nixon and has not been update. No need to do anything because they are coming after your S.S. and Medicare this year ... after all they are just entitlements and "free money"


Chances are it won't be OUR SS and Medicare but the younger generation' will be restructured if anything. I think it has to do with financing the darned thing....more money going out than coming in projected in the future. Unfortunately banks won't cash checks if nothing's there.

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