I am very curious of the difference between the sensor in the Panasonic
Mirrorless Four-Thirds and the sensor say in the Sony mirrorless 6000’s. What would be the advantages/disadvantages of each and/or difference in picture quality?
Please call it Micro Four Third, (m4/3) as the 4/3 system is long gone.
Difference in sensor is going to be better low light and less noise in the Sony.
With the larger sensor the lenses are going to be much bigger unfortunately. Not to mention that the Sony A6000 doesn’t have the lens selection m4/3 has. With m4/3, you get the best image stabilization money can buy and there are pro lenses in the line up that are very fast, so in many instances the “advantages” of a larger sensor is cancelled out.
But what ever you do, please handle these cameras before you purchase. It has to feel good to you. You don’t want to get a camera that doesn’t feel comfortable.
Another thing?
While we don’t know your story, meaning what you shoot, what you do with the photos, if you print, how big etc...
If you look on line, you will see excellent results from the A6000 series cameras and you will also see terrible shots from m4/3.
But, the opposite is equally true. Award winners from m4/3 and terrible snapshots from the A6000 series cameras that should have been deleted.
Basically, it is the person behind the camera that is the really important part.
Expansive gear or “larger sensor size” didn’t automatically means better picture. Not at all.
GL!!!
PS: both systems are capable of amazing results, but if you just post on FB etc or only print small, you will not see much , if any difference.
The Sony's have larger sensors than M4/3.
Both are great systems...I just much prefer the lens lineup of m4/3 and the image stabilization of Olympus.
Many here are big fans of the m4/3 systems from Olympus and Panasonic. I personally opted for the APS-C size sensor on the Sony a6500 primarily for better low light performance and greater ability to crop due to larger sensor capabilities. I don't necessarily need extra-large prints (although have done very clean 16"x24") but appreciate the ability to crop in at 1:2 or 1:3 on an 8x10 and still have a good image. Not sure what m4/3 can do when heavily cropped. APS-C crop factor (field of view), on Nikon and Sony is 1.5 compared to full-frame and m4/3 is 2.0 so you get 25% more image size on APS-C vs. m4/3. Maybe take a couple of SD cards to your local camera store, shoot with both systems and decide.
kbatschke wrote:
Many here are big fans of the m4/3 systems from Olympus and Panasonic. I personally opted for the APS-C size sensor on the Sony a6500 primarily for better low light performance and greater ability to crop due to larger sensor capabilities. I don't necessarily need extra-large prints (although have done very clean 16"x24") but appreciate the ability to crop in at 1:2 or 1:3 on an 8x10 and still have a good image. Not sure what m4/3 can do when heavily cropped. APS-C crop factor (field of view), on Nikon and Sony is 1.5 compared to full-frame and m4/3 is 2.0 so you get 25% more image size on APS-C vs. m4/3. Maybe take a couple of SD cards to your local camera store, shoot with both systems and decide.
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Em1ii has a 20 mpx sensor. Then it has fine ability to pixel shift and get an 80mpx raw file. Plenty of room to crop.
The sensor in the a6000 is an APS (cropped) sensor while the sensor of the Panasonic is of a smaller size to fit the M43 format.
Quality wise, with good optics do not expect to see a big difference.
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
Cdouthitt wrote:
Em1ii has a 20 mpx sensor. Then it has fine ability to pixel shift and get an 80mpx raw file. Plenty of room to crop.
But the subject has to be perfectly still...nevertheless a handy feature for some subjects...
chrisg-optical wrote:
But the subject has to be perfectly still...nevertheless a handy feature for some subjects...
Not in all cases, but generally yes...
Jeffcs
Loc: Myrtle Beach South Carolina
I'm a duel system shooter, I have Nikon FF & Olympus MU-43
I can not see a difference between the two after PP
For poor lighting such as HS night FB I go for my D5 at ISO 12500
Every day shooting Olympus OMDem1mk2 with pro line lenses
The low light advantage of the APS-C sensor can be made up for with the excellent fast and smaller, lighter weight, cheaper lenses in m4/3. While Sony makes some very good full-frame FE glass, the APS-C lenses were often not that great and the selection was limited.
tdekany wrote:
Please call it Micro Four Third, (m4/3) as the 4/3 system is long gone.
Difference in sensor is going to be better low light and less noise in the Sony.
With the larger sensor the lenses are going to be much bigger unfortunately. Not to mention that the Sony A6000 doesn’t have the lens selection m4/3 has. With m4/3, you get the best image stabilization money can buy and there are pro lenses in the line up that are very fast, so in many instances the “advantages” of a larger sensor is cancelled out.
But what ever you do, please handle these cameras before you purchase. It has to feel good to you. You don’t want to get a camera that doesn’t feel comfortable.
Another thing?
While we don’t know your story, meaning what you shoot, what you do with the photos, if you print, how big etc...
If you look on line, you will see excellent results from the A6000 series cameras and you will also see terrible shots from m4/3.
But, the opposite is equally true. Award winners from m4/3 and terrible snapshots from the A6000 series cameras that should have been deleted.
Basically, it is the person behind the camera that is the really important part.
Expansive gear or “larger sensor size” didn’t automatically means better picture. Not at all.
GL!!!
PS: both systems are capable of amazing results, but if you just post on FB etc or only print small, you will not see much , if any difference.
Please call it Micro Four Third, (m4/3) as the 4/3... (
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Major advantages to Micro 4/3 for some of us:
SYSTEM weight reduction, mostly from lighter lenses
VIDEO capabilities of Lumix GH4, GH5 are aimed squarely at low budget independent filmmakers, wedding videographers, advertising agency commercial producers, documentary producers, local TV news producers, corporate trainers...
COMPETITION between Olympus and Panasonic Lumix drives innovation forward
4:3 ASPECT RATIO needs less cropping for 10x8 prints, so is easier to compose in finder
MACRO lenses at 1:1 cover a smaller field than APS-C or FF
http://hazeghi.org/mft-lenses.htmlRead reviews from sites on JerryC’s list. Go to YouTube and watch reviews there. Then rent to try, before you buy.
BTW, Sony makes the sensors in most (all?) Micro 4/3 cameras. But Olympus and Panasonic each design the circuitry fed by the sensors...
I gave up on Canon and Nikon and went Micro 4/3. I have not missed dSLRs since.
Re my m4/3 mirrorless inquiry.. I love my Sony mirrorless which I bought to use mainly when traveling. (Am older, weight is a concern--know the Panasonic mirrorless is even lighter).
But I am still intrigued with other equipment to look forward to getting in the foreseeable future. I do do research on the internet--don't think I'm lazy. I often see conflicting or biased info on the internet, but always appreciate input from people here.
On the Panasonic m4/3 I heard that one big advantage is that with adapters one can use just about any lens made; that it is more possible to adapt your older lenses to the Panasonic than, say, the Sony line. Have a lot of good, older Nikon lenses. Suggestions/opinions always welcome.
Thanks.
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