selmslie wrote:
No, I can't recall one either. Even my pre-digital meters showed me the EV on the dial.
Even older meters that read out in Luminance or Illuminance probably provided EV as well. It's not a new concept.
The Weston meters don't show EV. They show Luminance in Cd/ft^2 but not EV. It's much better if they show EV because their dials are marked with Weston speed rating and not ASA/DIN or ISO.
Interesting update in practical useage. However, you are still doing the same principals but updated, more commonly available equipment. I was working with sensitometers and densitometers calibrated to NBS requirements.
Paul Sr wrote:
Interesting update in practical useage. However, you are still doing the same principals but updated, more commonly available equipment. I was working with sensitometers and densitometers calibrated to NBS requirements.
Yes, it amounts to the same type of information. But I have added a couple of wrinkles.
1. I have automated the process of adjusting the ISO.
2. I have included an adjustment that helps me work out the development time for the next test.
For example, I am currently testing Ilford Delta 3200 in Xtol 1+1. I exposed the test at ISO 1600 and developed for the equivalent time of 15 minutes. After I developed and plotted it I found that the ISO should have been 1280 and the development time closer to 16.25 minutes.
I also developed the same film in HC110(B) and Xtol stock and got much shorter development times but the ISO came out to 1000.
boberic wrote:
It's not really all that complicated. If you shoot in manual, you will learn in a month or 2 how 1 setting affects the others.
A month or 2?!? Unless one has a learning disability, with concentration and a little experimentation it should not take more than an afternoon to grasp the general relationship between settings and exposure. Using a digital camera, that is.
I sure hope I can get all of the above figured out before that bird takes off!!
boberic
Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
rook2c4 wrote:
A month or 2?!? Unless one has a learning disability, with concentration and a little experimentation it should not take more than an afternoon to grasp the general relationship between settings and exposure. Using a digital camera, that is.
But you first have to get over the Auto habit. There are many photographers who have $3,000+ point and shooters
boberic wrote:
But you first have to get over the Auto habit. There are many photographers who have $3,000+ point and shooters
You can't get over the Auto habit. You either don't have it because you started out with manual or you never get over it.
As a film shooter first and foremost, I very much enjoy reading a post like this. Thank you for sharing your work!
When in a new location, particularly at altitude or a different latitude, I like to take a few initial readings and then make mental adjustments. I agree with the technique of thinking in EV, and then triangulation to a shutter speed and f stop--assuming a constant ISO.
tomad wrote:
In reading your post something else occurred to me. Until about 15 years ago all of my photography was done with full manual cameras that I bought in the 70's and early 80's. Besides learning to get exposure right (I shot almost exclusively Kodachrome) I rarely took a shot that was out of focus. I was doing the focus. Now, with the camera/lens doing the focus, I get a lot of shots slightly out of focus. Maybe I should go back to manual focus...
Anyway, sorry to get off topic but in another thread in the last few days someone asked if/when you had taken your best photo. My answer was yes probably with film. With manual film cameras I tended to get exposure and focus done pretty well. Now with digital and no after shot expense I guess I tend not to be as careful with exposure or focus.
In reading your post something else occurred to me... (
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You can still use the old film equipment, or use the manual lenses on a digital camera. I do and think I agree about exposure and focus.
[quote=rmalarz]Well, you've thrown a lot of figures here and like the numerous books published
Bob has written many well thought out articles here on UHH such as this one
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-484554-1.htmlI like his instructions on ETTR especially. But all beginners should read all his articles on exposure. Very helpful
Also this article you posted is very very helpful. Thanks you!
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