MikeMck Loc: Southern Maryland on the Bay

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John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN

This post makes clear that a picture can speak volumes. A liw tax State is a low services State and the most vulnerable pay the most. There are long tomes that explain the 'why' in great detail. The picture tells the same.

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

It well. Known red states are the welfare Queens

EyeSawYou

Solved: Why Poor States Are Red and Rich States Are Blue

One of the great conundrums of the American political scene is why the poorer states, colloquially known as “red” states, tend to v**e Republican or conservative, while the richer states, the “blue” ones (and let it be said that this is very confusing for this European, for over here the colours tend to work the other way around, red is Labour, or left wing) tend to v**e Democrat. We would think that it should be the other way around, the poor people v****g for more from that Great Big Pinata which is government. But it seems that there’s a simple solution to this: the red states aren’t actually poorer in terms of the way people live.

If we measure by consumption patterns then it’s the blue states that are poor, the red states that are rich:

Blue states, like California, New York and Illinois, whose economies turn on finance, trade and knowledge, are generally richer than red states. But red states, like Texas, Georgia and Utah, have done a better job over all of offering a higher standard of living relative to housing costs. That basic economic fact not only helps explain why the nation’s e*******l map got so much redder in the November midterm e******ns, but also why America’s prosperity is in jeopardy.

Red state economies based on energy extraction, agriculture and suburban sprawl may have lower wages, higher poverty rates and lower levels of education on average than those of blue states — but their residents also benefit from much lower costs of living. For a middle-class person , the American dream of a big house with a backyard and a couple of cars is much more achievable in low-tax Arizona than in deep-blue Massachusetts. As Jed Kolko, chief economist of Trulia, recently noted, housing costs almost twice as much in deep-blue markets ($227 per square foot) than in red markets ($119).

That particular piece then goes on to ch****r away about how appalling it is that people aren’t willing to v**e for more blue state type of policies and how this will be the end of America. However, the really interesting part of it is that part quoted above. For it speaks to something that economists just keep trying to point out to people. Yes, sure, income ine******y might be important in a way, wealth ine******y should have a place in our thoughts. But what really matters to people about how life is lived is consumption. Levels of consumption and also consumption ine******y. That last is important in a political sense currently because consumption ine******y just hasn’t widened out as much as income and wealth ine******y have. And levels of consumption: well, that’s really what income or wealth is, the ability to purchase consumption. And if you’re in a place where prices are lower, leading to greater consumption (whether of food, or square feet of housing, or leisure, or wh**ever), well, then you’re richer, aren’t you?

And thus is our conundrum solved. The red states aren’t in fact poorer than the blue states. They’re richer: that’s why they v**e more conservative and more right wing.

We could, of course, take yet another point from this essay:

For blue state urbanites who toil in low-paying retail, food pr********n and service jobs, for the journeyman tradespeople who once formed the heart of the middle class, for teachers, civil servants, students and young families, the American dream of homeownership — or even an affordable rental apartment — is increasingly out of reach. Adding insult to injury, rapid gentrification in these larger knowledge hubs brings the constant threat of displacement of creative workers. For even the much better paid techies, engineers, financiers and managers who are displacing them, the metropolitan version of the American dream is a cramped condo or a small house and a long commute. Many are opting to move to cheaper red states instead, further driving their growth.

That rather shows that the way that the blue states are run isn’t conducive to good living standards for the poorer half of the population, doesn’t it? Or, as we might put it, blue, liberal, policies don’t actually do what they say on the tin, aren’t in fact pro-poor. All of which is something that ties in nicely with something we noted from Joe Stiglitz yesterday. Restrictive zoning is very much more common in those blue states than it is in the red. And housing is still a family’s largest single expense. Meaning that by artificially pushing up the cost of housing those blue states are indeed making life worse for the poor. The adoption of build anything anywhere (almost, we’re not quite ready for a steel plant in Manhattan) policies would thus improve the lives and fortunes of the poor substantially.

But that is to become perilously close to snark about all of this. That basic and first observation still stands though. That puzzle of why people in places with lower incomes tend to v**e right wing is solved. Because those lower income places have even lower prices, making consumption standards higher. There is therefore no conundrum. The richer people, by the only standard that actually matters, that consumption, are v****g right wing, the poorer are v****g left.

What we now need to go on and explain is why those nominally left policies, those blue ones, are so to the disadvantage of the poor they’re supposedly helping….

https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2015/01/04/solved-why-poor-states-are-red-and-rich-states-are-blue/

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

The states most dependent on the federal government are who you'd least expect
http://www.businessinsider.com/red-states-more-dependent-on-federal-government-2015-7

EyeSawYou

Income ine******y is greatest in blue states

http://theweek.com/articles/449591/income-ine******y-greatest-blue-states

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

Housing costs is a matter of supply and demand. It's cheaper to live where no one else wants to live, but usually there is a reason no one wants to live there.

McKinneyMike Loc: Texas

If this true why do these red states take more than they give back? Kansas has been a debacle.

EyeSawYou

9 Most Bankrupt States In America: Is Yours On The List? 8 are Blue states...why? lol

https://www.dailywire.com/news/7619/9-most-bankrupt-states-america-yours-list-aaron-bandler

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

Dumb

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

Kansas used same base as this Senate tax bill

McKinneyMike Loc: Texas

Another tin foil hat wearing wing nut source...... keeping trying Peeping Tom.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

LOL.. Facts are facts my friend no matter if you like the source or not... If you think that it is in error why not do a little research and disprove it... You won't because you can't because the article speaks the t***h.

thom w Loc: San Jose, CA

Is that your way of saying it doesn't cost more to live in silicon valley, or N.Y. city than in Tonopah NV? Or are you saying more people want to live in Tonopah? If life is so good in rural areas with a low cost of living, why the Opioid problem in these areas?

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

Lol are you listening to yourself. Lol

Boi love watching you slap yourself.