Protection Filters: We've beaten this subject to death but this was just plain funny!
Meeting with some pro-friends at a sporting event last fall, they told me I was "crazy", (using other words), to use a protection filter. He and two others sort-of ganged up on my and said the front element is tuff enough..." (blah-blah blah)
***Jump forward to today***
Pro-friend (only one person this time): "Hey George, you got some micro fiber I can use?"
I responded: "Not here but in my car. Why not just use your T-shirt? As long as it's clean. I used to do that all the time."
Pro-friend: "Are you kidding. That will scratch the (heck) out of my lens."
I responded: "I thought you said the front element was tuff enough not to get scratched, especially with soft cotton?"
He quietly just walked away. (Probably not a friend anymore either.) LoL
Love that story. You have no idea how tempted I am to share a protective filter experience of mine from this past week to your thread, but I really don't want to re-ignite that debate.
It's not so much the cotton, but the grinding of any sand grains (on the t-shirt) into the lens surface that is the threat. The cotton itself is very unlikely to do any damage.
GENorkus wrote:
Meeting with some pro-friends at a sporting event last fall, they told me I was "crazy", (using other words), to use a protection filter. He and two others sort-of ganged up on my and said the front element is tuff enough..." (blah-blah blah)
***Jump forward to today***
Pro-friend (only one person this time): "Hey George, you got some micro fiber I can use?"
I responded: "Not here but in my car. Why not just use your T-shirt? As long as it's clean. I used to do that all the time."
Pro-friend: "Are you kidding. That will scratch the (heck) out of my lens."
I responded: "I thought you said the front element was tuff enough not to get scratched, especially with soft cotton?"
He quietly just walked away. (Probably not a friend anymore either.) LoL
Meeting with some pro-friends at a sporting event ... (
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I never leave to take images without my protection. You never know what you can encounter.
If you like flare, use a filter. Good ones cost enough that I wouldn't want to use a cotton t-shirt on them, either.
Micro-fiber...don't leave home without it.
boberic
Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
jcboy3 wrote:
If you like flare, use a filter. Good ones cost enough that I wouldn't want to use a cotton t-shirt on them, either.
Micro-fiber...don't leave home without it.
Part of the beaten to death thing. if you shoot into the sun, filter or not flare is a possibility. I have pics that proove it
GENorkus wrote:
Meeting with some pro-friends at a sporting event last fall, they told me I was "crazy", (using other words), to use a protection filter. He and two others sort-of ganged up on my and said the front element is tuff enough..." (blah-blah blah)
***Jump forward to today***
Pro-friend (only one person this time): "Hey George, you got some micro fiber I can use?"
I responded: "Not here but in my car. Why not just use your T-shirt? As long as it's clean. I used to do that all the time."
Pro-friend: "Are you kidding. That will scratch the (heck) out of my lens."
I responded: "I thought you said the front element was tuff enough not to get scratched, especially with soft cotton?"
He quietly just walked away. (Probably not a friend anymore either.) LoL
Meeting with some pro-friends at a sporting event ... (
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Ah, yes. The grand contradiction!
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
GENorkus wrote:
Meeting with some pro-friends at a sporting event last fall, they told me I was "crazy", (using other words), to use a protection filter. He and two others sort-of ganged up on my and said the front element is tuff enough..." (blah-blah blah)
***Jump forward to today***
Pro-friend (only one person this time): "Hey George, you got some micro fiber I can use?"
I responded: "Not here but in my car. Why not just use your T-shirt? As long as it's clean. I used to do that all the time."
Pro-friend: "Are you kidding. That will scratch the (heck) out of my lens."
I responded: "I thought you said the front element was tuff enough not to get scratched, especially with soft cotton?"
He quietly just walked away. (Probably not a friend anymore either.) LoL
Meeting with some pro-friends at a sporting event ... (
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Poor baby, he just did not have any Zeiss pre-moistened wipes like I own. They are single packed and it's one time use and toss. AND, they will not scratch the surface of your lens. And by the way, protective filters are for those that just do not understand IQ and how to maximize it.
billnikon wrote:
Poor baby, he just did not have any Zeiss pre-moistened wipes like I own. They are single packed and it's one time use and toss. AND, they will not scratch the surface of your lens. And by the way, protective filters are for those that just do not understand IQ and how to maximize it.
Where do you toss your wipes when you finish cleaning? I think I’ve followed you around, behind your trails of little white cloths on the ground. Aha!
No one mentioned an air blower and/ or brush before the wipe?
You not going to get me to buy a filter. I would go buy some more micro fiber to make sure I have them.
Good one, GENorkus... No need to resurrect this topic here, but to those opposing the use of quality (yes, they cost a bit of money) protective filters, I am still waiting for a picture showing a significant (for all practical matters, visible with the naked eye) loss of picture quality when these filters are used properly. Words are cheap....
I do a lot of wildlife photography and this includes spending a lot of time outdoors, bushwhacking, wading small streams, and in dusty (SW desert) environments. Using a protective filter is a no-brainer in this kind of situation.
He walked away because you were right, he was not. A soft cotton t-shirt will do the job but I have to be honest with you, I prefer to use one of those pieces of cloth used by ophthalmologists to clean optics. Yes, I have cleaned my lenses with a cotton t-shirt before and never had any damage. I was careful, that was all.
In regard to "protection" and since you also mentioned that, in my more than 50 years photographing I have never used a filter for "protection." I always relied on using caution and the front lens cap.
OK, I don't want to get into this fight but I bought a 35 mm lens for my D-7200 and on-line they state putting a filter or lens hood (supplied by Nikon) limits the edges of the picture. I tested it and there is light loss at the corners. I understand the need for both in bright light. Are there other solutions than not using filters or hoods?
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