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Dec 14, 2017 10:30:39   #
kbatschke Loc: Chicagoland-west
 
Ok, I'm really going to date myself here but thinking about when I used my Honeywell Strobonar back in the mid-70's. The unit attached to the camera via a bracket and screw-mount into the tripod socket. To the extent of my arm's length, I could provide side-lighting, bounce or above eye-level direct flash. I never see this technique used these days despite the advances in auto-focus etc. It seem that either photographers have remote off-camera or use hot shoe mounted units. Am I wrong? I also had a hot shoe mounted unit in those days but found the results much better with the Strobonar.

I'm in the market for a flash unit and this got me wondering.

Thanks for your thoughts.

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Dec 14, 2017 10:41:36   #
Rick Fox
 
I bought an L-shaped, adjustable bracket (at local camera store) that attaches to the tripod attachment on the bottom of my camera. Then, I got a cord that attaches to the camera's hot shoe and and the speedlight. It works great for all types of shooting, but especially well at events!

Here are some brackets similar to the one I have. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/buy/Flash-Brackets/ci/653/N/4168864826

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Dec 14, 2017 10:41:47   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
kbatschke wrote:
Ok, I'm really going to date myself here but thinking about when I used my Honeywell Strobonar back in the mid-70's. The unit attached to the camera via a bracket and screw-mount into the tripod socket. To the extent of my arm's length, I could provide side-lighting, bounce or above eye-level direct flash. I never see this technique used these days despite the advances in auto-focus etc. It seem that either photographers have remote off-camera or use hot shoe mounted units. Am I wrong? I also had a hot shoe mounted unit in those days but found the results much better with the Strobonar.

I'm in the market for a flash unit and this got me wondering.

Thanks for your thoughts.
Ok, I'm really going to date myself here but think... (show quote)

Google "stroboframe" for a good start. With a little poking around you'll find a variety of devices of different sizes.

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Dec 14, 2017 10:57:13   #
jackm1943 Loc: Omaha, Nebraska
 
I have an old Canon 580EX that I routinely use in that manner when shooting indoors. I have a cord that connects the flash with my camera that will allow holding the flash at arm's length. I also have a stroboframe with a trigger that I used on a C330 with a Vivitar 283, it worked quite well.

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Dec 14, 2017 10:58:26   #
kbatschke Loc: Chicagoland-west
 
Thanks for the quick replies and references! Much appreciated. Looks like there is a stroboframe in my future.

Karl

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Dec 14, 2017 11:12:22   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
I used a Honeywell Strobonar 880. Damn that 510-volt battery pack was heavy...That said, I have both a camera flip and flash flip strobonar brackets.

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Dec 14, 2017 11:16:08   #
kbatschke Loc: Chicagoland-west
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
I used a Honeywell Strobonar 880. Damn that 510-volt battery pack was heavy...That said, I have both a camera flip and flash flip strobonar brackets.


I think the 880 is what I had as well. Agree on the battery pack. Had it on a shoulder strap! Sure was a powerful flash though.

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Dec 14, 2017 11:18:57   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
kbatschke wrote:
Ok, I'm really going to date myself here but thinking about when I used my Honeywell Strobonar back in the mid-70's. The unit attached to the camera via a bracket and screw-mount into the tripod socket. To the extent of my arm's length, I could provide side-lighting, bounce or above eye-level direct flash. I never see this technique used these days despite the advances in auto-focus etc. It seem that either photographers have remote off-camera or use hot shoe mounted units. Am I wrong? I also had a hot shoe mounted unit in those days but found the results much better with the Strobonar.

I'm in the market for a flash unit and this got me wondering.

Thanks for your thoughts.
Ok, I'm really going to date myself here but think... (show quote)


I had the Strobonar 800 (all manual) and Braun RL-515. Both took 510 volt (disposable) batteries.
I shot the same way- with the handle in my left hand and camera in my right.
On my Mamiya RB67, I used a Jones bracket with the Braun.
With autofocus lenses, it seems like it would be even easier to do that now, but I don't.

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Dec 14, 2017 11:24:03   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
I don't know about a Stroboframe, I've used them but I just use a Nikon Speedlight with a Speedlight cord now. You've got to get the flash off the camera (with a cord) for better lighting. Flash in my left hand controlling source of light and placement of shadows, camera in my right 3 or more feet off axis. Indoors.
kbatschke wrote:
Thanks for the quick replies and references! Much appreciated. Looks like there is a stroboframe in my future.

Karl



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Dec 14, 2017 11:33:35   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Fotoartist wrote:
I don't know about a Stroboframe, I've used them but I just use a Nikon Speedlight with a Speedlight cord now. You've got to get the flash off the camera (with a cord) for better lighting. Flash in my left hand controlling source of light and placement of shadows, camera in my right 3 or more feet off axis. Indoors.


And a bird in your other right hand! Cool!

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Dec 14, 2017 11:34:35   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
LOL !!!!
dsmeltz wrote:
And a bird in your other right hand! Cool!

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Dec 14, 2017 11:37:10   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
dsmeltz wrote:
And a bird in your other right hand! Cool!

I've been trying to grow another myself!

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Dec 14, 2017 12:35:12   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
You made a funny. You should be proud. That's your creative accomplishment for the day.
dsmeltz wrote:
And a bird in your other right hand! Cool!

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Dec 14, 2017 12:36:58   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
I guess yours is having 2 right hands....
Fotoartist wrote:
You made a funny. You should be proud. That's your creative accomplishment for the day.

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Dec 14, 2017 13:13:29   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
kbatschke wrote:
...I never see this technique used these days despite the advances in auto-focus etc. It seem that either photographers have remote off-camera or use hot shoe mounted units. Am I wrong?...


Yes, you are wrong. At least as far as I am concerned.

I often use a flash hand held, particularly when doing close-up and macro work. These images were shot that way....


... using this setup:


I diffuse the output with a couple layers of white gauze bandage over the flash tube... and hand hold the flash off to one side and slightly above the subject, while holding the camera in my other hand (sometimes on a monopod or resting on another surface).

I also use several different flash brackets...

For non-macro work I've got a cheap, generic, relatively compact flash bracket that moves the flash about 6 inches away from the lens axis. When I'm using a lens with a tripod mounting ring, I've got a modular Wimberley flash bracket rig that allows various configurations. In the shot below, I'm using the generic cheapo on one camera with a 24-70mm lens and the Wimberley on another camera with a 70-200mm lens.


I've also got a larger (and heavier) Manfrotto adjustable flash bracket that can position a flash higher up, approx. 18" or 24" from the lens axis.

Finally, this is a Canon macro twin lite attached to the lens using the OEM mounting bracket....


But I prefer using a Lepp/Stroboframe dual flash bracket that allows much more versatility positioning the flash heads:


Unfortunately, I think the Lepp/Stroboframe bracket has been discontinued. But they can still be found used and there are similar from other brands. I removed the usual flash mounting "cold shoes" from mine and just instead use the 1/4-20 thumbscrew shown to mount the flash heads to the bracket.

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