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Dec 9, 2017 05:46:16   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Most importantly, any camera, mirrorless or mirrored is only as good as the person pressing the shutter. Secondly, you couldn’t tell what type of camera took a particular photo. Or at least most couldn’t.

One big difference is the viewfinder used in mirrorless cameras. You never need to wonder what the picture is going to be like. You see it before you press the shutter. Best to handle these cameras at a store. Good luck.

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Dec 9, 2017 06:39:34   #
Jeffcs Loc: Myrtle Beach South Carolina
 
I'm a Nikon shooter from around 1970 and DSLR still is better for some conditions depending on your needs, that said for vacations I picked up an Olympus PenF and 2zoom lenses. From there I now have full line of Olympus glass and OMDEM1MK2. This for me is where it gets interesting, when I'm shooting HS sports I'll take my Nikon gear D5 FF as it is so much better in low light fast action. When I'm going to shoot for me I'll grab the Olympus every time weather I'm chasing the grandkids around the park or making art I even shoot wild life with the Olympus my 300f4 in FF terms is a 600f4. In terms of high quality images, I'm in a local photo club and often win monthly contests with the Olympus gear. Olympus gear is 1/2 the weight and 1/3 smaller size it's also 1/$ the price. My D5 $6,000 my OMDem1mk2 $2000 my 300f4 $2200 while Nikon 600f4 $8000
Bottom line when I'm no longer shooting HS sports I'll have a ton of Nikon gear for sale

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Dec 9, 2017 07:03:26   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
Pick from Olympus Panasonic Fuji or Sony. Do not consider other manufacturers.



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Dec 9, 2017 07:20:12   #
craggycrossers Loc: Robin Hood Country, UK
 
wpacetti wrote:
Hi, Bill here new to this forum. I,m interested in mirrorless, but do not know much about them. Could anyone please advise.
Thanks in advance.


Big hello, Bill, as a mirrorless user in the UK since 2013.

You have some very informative posts to read already, and it's really good to see that the "regular mirrorless users" here are happy to suggest that you "take a good look around the market place" before you decide on which direction to take. All the contributors so far are giving you info worth considering, and many are using different manufacturers' kit.

I'm just going to join them and add a couple of websites that will give you lots and lots of well thought-out information and argument for and against.

Most important ...... take your time and do your research ....... it's your money and your decision. Don't get carried away by "latest and greatest" or "the you should brigade". Loads of info to get your teeth into here .....

http://www.sansmirror.com/newsviews/

http://www.mirrorlessons.com/

https://www.cameralabs.com/

Purely for info, I'm a hobbyist-cum-enthusiast, do it for my own enjoyment, ex-Nikon, ran Fuji alongside my D700 for a couple of years (2013 onwards) with the X-E1, added the X-T1 in 2015, ditched (sold !) all my Nikon stuff in 2016, added the X-Pro 2, then sold the T1 and Pro2 3 months ago in favour of the X-T2. So you might say I "have some experience" of Fuji X-Series. However, that's just me, my style, my personal choice, and I'll happily answer questions if you have any on Fuji.

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Dec 9, 2017 07:34:21   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
craggycrossers wrote:
Big hello, Bill, as a mirrorless user in the UK since 2013.

You have some very informative posts to read already, and it's really good to see that the "regular mirrorless users" here are happy to suggest that you "take a good look around the market place" before you decide on which direction to take. All the contributors so far are giving you info worth considering, and many are using different manufacturers' kit.

I'm just going to join them and add a couple of websites that will give you lots and lots of well thought-out information and argument for and against.

Most important ...... take your time and do your research ....... it's your money and your decision. Don't get carried away by "latest and greatest. Just decide "what's good enough for me and the uses I'll get from such a camera". Loads of info to get your teeth into here .....

http://www.sansmirror.com/newsviews/

http://www.mirrorlessons.com/

https://www.cameralabs.com/

Purely for info, I'm a hobbyist-cum-enthusiast, do it for my own enjoyment, ex-Nikon, ran Fuji alongside my D700 for a couple of years (2013 onwards) with the X-E1, added the X-T1 in 2015, ditched (sold !) all my Nikon stuff in 2016, added the X-Pro 2, then sold the T1 and Pro2 3 months ago in favour of the X-T2. So you might say I "have some experience" of Fuji X-Series. However, that's just me, my style, my personal choice, and I'll happily answer questions if you have any on Fuji.
Big hello, Bill, as a mirrorless user in the UK si... (show quote)


Excellent resources here. I would add this link as a starting point to compare: https://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/cameras

Once you’ve decided on what is important for your “best fit”, your next step is to do some “price shopping” with your budget criteria in mind. Don’t dismiss the idea of used. Reputable dealers have a reasonable return policy...typically 30 days. ( I almost always buy local—but I have a really good store within walking distance.)

I also embrace the “less is more” philosophy of traveling with a camera. It can free you to focus on photography rather than which lens, body, or accessory to use.

Happy hunting....

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Dec 9, 2017 07:34:55   #
philphotog Loc: Perth, Scotland
 
Hi. I purchased a Sony NEX C3 mirrorless camera and have been so impressed with this cameras capabilities, performance an resulting pictures. It is the size if a compact but has the capabilities of a dslr.....all the modes from auto to manual, interchangeable lenses and although the C3 doesn't have an inbuilt flash it has a wee dedicated clip on unit synched with the camera and akso a hotshoe fir a larger flash gun.
Although I will still use my Nikon dslr the Sony will be alongside it in my camera bag and because of its performance and capability will go on holiday with me either at home or abroad.......and it is much less bulkier. Brilliant camera.
Phil Walker, Perth.Scotland

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Dec 9, 2017 07:43:00   #
sueyeisert Loc: New Jersey
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
Pick from Olympus Panasonic Fuji or Sony. Do not consider other manufacturers.


I agree. Try out cameras. I love my Fuji cameras. My Nikon camera just became too heavy.

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Dec 9, 2017 07:51:33   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
To expand on my previous post...these are in no particular order, but as you can tell from my gear list in my signature I prefer m4/3.
Olympus: em10ii or iii, Pen-f, em5ii, em1 or II
Panasonic: gh5, g9, gx850, g85
Fuji: xt-2, xt-20
Sony: a6300 a6500, a7ii, a7rii

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Dec 9, 2017 07:58:09   #
Wilderness Images Loc: Apache Junction, AZ.
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
Pick from Olympus Panasonic Fuji or Sony. Do not consider other manufacturers.
I don't know why you would say that... A few years ago I bought the Canon EOS M, their first entry into the mirrorless market and it had poor ratings and reviews, but I did my research, knew the weak areas and was able to work around them. Later I bought the Samsung NX50 that produced some amazing photos, I loved that camera, but when Samsung dropped out of the camera market, I decided to sell it and move on. The Canon EOS M3 solved a lot of the problems from its predecessor so I purchased it. Today I still have the old EOS M and the M3 and don't regret my decisions.

Since I do a lot of hiking in Arizona's rugged mountains, I needed a camera that was light, versatile and able to take the punishment of my harsh environment, so far, both cameras carry the scars of usage but have never failed me. There's a lot of camera's out there and each should be evaluated on your personal requirements.

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Dec 9, 2017 07:59:44   #
Hbuk66 Loc: Oswego, NY
 
You could probably find a new Sony a7 with a 28-70mm lens for around $1000, full frame, good lens

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Dec 9, 2017 08:02:55   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
wpacetti wrote:
Hi, Bill here new to this forum. I,m interested in mirrorless, but do not know much about them. Could anyone please advise.
Thanks in advance.


Look for cameras that appear in several lists.
http://www.techradar.com/news/photography-video-capture/cameras/best-compact-system-camera-2013-the-best-models-reviewed-960832
https://www.digitaltrends.com/photography/best-mirrorless-cameras/
https://www.switchbacktravel.com/best-mirrorless-cameras
http://www.digitalcameraworld.com/buying-guides/the-best-mirrorless-camera
http://www.trustedreviews.com/guide/best-mirrorless-camera

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Dec 9, 2017 08:05:22   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
Wilderness Images wrote:
I don't know why you would say that... A few years ago I bought the Canon EOS M, their first entry into the mirrorless market and it had poor ratings and reviews, but I did my research, knew the weak areas and was able to work around them. Later I bought the Samsung NX50 that produced some amazing photos, I loved that camera, but when Samsung dropped out of the camera market, I decided to sell it and move on. The Canon EOS M3 solved a lot of the problems from its predecessor so I purchased it. Today I still have the old EOS M and the M3 and don't regret my decisions.

Since I do a lot of hiking in Arizona's rugged mountains, I needed a camera that was light, versatile and able to take the punishment of my harsh environment, so far, both cameras carry the scars of usage but have never failed me. There's a lot of camera's out there and each should be evaluated on your personal requirements.
I don't know why you would say that... A few years... (show quote)


How many native mirrorless lenses does canon make? Sure you can adapt those giant lenses, but you’re defeating one of the main purposes of mirrorless. Besides, do you honestly think canon is going to invest too much into a system that might take away from their dslrs? Maybe 5 years from now they’ll have a camera I could suggest, but for now I’ll stick to the mirrorless companies that are dedicated to advancing mirrorless and not just trying to catch up.

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Dec 9, 2017 08:08:03   #
Hbuk66 Loc: Oswego, NY
 
And the good thing about the Sony+++ you can adapt any other full frame lens that has an available adaptor... I use Nikon FX, Canon FD EF EF-S

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Dec 9, 2017 08:14:29   #
jccash Loc: Longwood, Florida
 
wdross wrote:
National Geographic's two top compact travel cameras were the Fuji X-T2 and Olympus E-M1 mrII. Both are mirrorless. Both top of the line and probably a little too expensive for you. But you could start with the low end of each and build your system up. Also look at Panasonic. All mirrorless tend to be smaller, lighter, and less costly. The Fuji X-T2 will be slightly bigger, heavier, and costlier tha either Olympus or Panasonic 4/3rds cameras.


Great recommendation Fujiflim makes a great mirrorless camera I bought my wife a Sony a6000 she loves it and I use it sometimes affordable if I had $3500 to spend I’d buy the Fujiflim XT2 or Sony A7Mlll

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Dec 9, 2017 08:28:17   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
" I,m interested in mirrorless, but do not know much about them. Could anyone please advise.
Thanks in advance."

Well, you have to do some homework. At present all mirrorless cameras are very capable tools and practically all of them have a good assortment of interchangeable lenses and accessories. Professionals are using mirrorless cameras.
I use Olympus and I am very satisfied with the quality of pictures I get from my cameras and lenses. I am sure those using other camera brands are as satisfied with their gear as I am with mine.
Visit a camera store if you have one where you live. Ask a knowledgeable salesman about the different models and the advantages of each one for someone like you and your photographic style. Search the Internet, plenty of very good information there and finally hold some of the bodies and lenses and see which one makes you feel more comfortable and better fits your style.
Here you could easily have a trillion answers that will confuse more than help you.

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