SATS Loc: Belgium

I put this one up for Dragonfist who requested a change from tight cropped people shots. Unfortunately, not so many like this (sigh).

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ygelman Loc: new -- North of Poughkeepsie!

I don't know if the first one you posted is before or after the Dragonfist request, but that guy on the far left is a bad distraction to what would otherwise be a very interesting photograph.

Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska

This is Street Photography! That guy on the left is essential to show the environment that provides the relationships showing the "human condition". He is literally half the glue that holds this shot together!

Note the second image of the dog only is not Street Photography.

SATS Loc: Belgium

Thanks for that Apaflo,I am getting there. I never would have put the second shot up as a standalone street photo. It is only because the two shots are thematically related that I included it.

Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska

I thought, Street or not, the second shot was a fun addition to viewing the first shot! We may be more technically into the first shot, but enjoying what else was there is worth a moment of time too.

dragonfist Loc: Stafford, N.Y.

Thanks Sats. I love it when you can put the people in context with the
background. Sometimetimes it helps and sometimes it just adds clutter to the shot. In this case the background is a nice addition. You have to love that little dog. That man is to be admired if as I think, he appears to be an amputee. He definitely is no quitter if that is his situation. That shot is a keeper for sure. Keep up the good work.

John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN

Is'nt the far left guy pushing the cart into which the other guy is putting his sweepings? And the dog is why they are there. If dogs could talk, what would the second picture have in the mouth bubble.

SATS Loc: Belgium

Not an amputee at all Dragonfist, believe it or not, that was his follow through after kicking the ball, yeh, I was pretty amazed too. I saw him do it about three or four times before I took the shot. He really was giving the dog a workout. If you double click, you can just see his foot to the left of the car headlight. The optical illusion for me and why I didn't get around to taking the photo right away was that the ball never went in the direction of his leg swing so he must have been kicking it with the outside of his toe but he sure got it to the far side of the area every time. Most of those scruffy looking street dogs do turn out to be lovable tykes.
Thanks for the kind words.

SATS Loc: Belgium

Hi John, thanks for commenting. The guy kicking the ball is supporting himself with his left hand on the push handle of the cart and his right hand on the brush, he really was giving it his all. The guy far left appeared to be either a friend or former colleague and was just helping in a supportive way. If the ball in the dogs mouth was a speech balloon I think the dog would be saying "I sure have these two well trained, they can keep this up all day for me". It is nice when people like this can take the time out to give animals some attention but who was entertaining whom is hard to say. Maybe he is an animal lover. Is that a bird nesting box he has fastened to the side of his cart? I can't believe any birds would use it while he is pushing it around.

SATS Loc: Belgium

I found this in the archive for Dragonfist just to show that the guy has all of legs he should have. This is an out of the camera shot without any post.

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ygelman Loc: new -- North of Poughkeepsie!

I guess "interesting" depends on what the viewer expects. If looking for Street Photography, then yes, keep the guy on the left.

It brings up the question in my mind: would you say that Cartier-Bresson did Street Photography? I don't think he would have kept the guy on the left in his shot. Just thinking, not arguing.

dragonfist Loc: Stafford, N.Y.

Thanks Sats. I was certainly fooled by that one in your original posting. He had one hand on the cart and the other on the broom which made it look like he was using them for support. Then with the missing leg? After you pointed it out I did find his foot in the photo. Just goes to show how easily one can draw a wrong conclusion. I am glad to see that he has all of his limbs. Have a great day.

Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska

"I guess "interesting" depends on what the viewer expects. If looking for Street Photography, then yes, keep the guy on the left."

Absolutely, but this is not the Photo Gallery section; either the purpose is Street Photography related or it should not be posted here.

"It brings up the question in my mind: would you say that Cartier-Bresson did Street Photography? I don't think he would have kept the guy on the left in his shot. Just thinking, not arguing."

HCB did photojournalism first and foremost. Much of his PJ photography was great Street Photography too. He also shot images that fell into other catagories and hence it is very hard to look at anything he did not do and guess at what he might have done on any particular day. If he felt like it should be Street he would definitely have kept the man because he was a real stickler for minute details.


To be honest I would bet HCB would have included the man on the left. I have absolutely no doubt that Winogrand or Meyerowitz would have included him.

Even Eric Kim would include him. I doubt that William Klein or Diane Arbus would have even taken the shot though.

SATS Loc: Belgium

Hi vgelman, sorry I did not reply earlier, your comment was coupled with a banner headline and my eye skipped over it, I thought Apaflo's comment was the first. These things happen. Naturally, I will always crop tight but there was a discussion about free space or negative space so I left as much in as possible in case folks wanted to generate a discussion. Here is the same shot without the guy left, do you think it has improved things or not?

Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska

Might as well crop the dog out too!