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Dec 7, 2017 11:30:22   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
3dees wrote:
the best tripod to buy is the one your going to use. I have a Manfratto tripod at home but rarely take it out with me because it weighs a ton. I have severe back problems so I tried one of those tripods that everyone is putting out. it's from Neewer. will it be ok with a 500mm lens? no, it's not made for that, but it will hold my equipment just fine and being that it's a little less than 3 lbs. I can take it everywhere. funny how Manfratto and others are making the same tripod and selling them for twice the price. sorry, but I won't spend 500.00 on a tripod. for pros that need it, I understand, but lets get real. how many of us really need and not just want the best and most expensive toys out there.
the best tripod to buy is the one your going to us... (show quote)


A so called "pro" tripod is usually around $1000 or more. Just sayin'

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Dec 7, 2017 11:35:31   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
imagemeister wrote:
Or not ! .......

The "weight ratings" are not absolute and probably not accurate ! - but they are - more or less universally used industry wide - and gives some idea of the structural stability.

IMO, the weakest link in a tripod is the bottom leg section - and the size of THAT should be the way tripod stability ratings are developed....and I am noticing recently, that some manufacturers are actually exposing this dimension. Knowing the top section size is OK - but it is the bottom section that matters more and bigger is better - for stability - but not for weight.
Or not ! ....... br br The "weight ratings&... (show quote)


No. Load capacity tells you nothing about stability. The weakest link in a tripod is the top plate that receives the head, and the top legs and how they attach to the plate. Vibrations usually don't come from the ground up. They start at the camera - wind, shutter shock, mirror slap - all conspire to rob your images of sharpness. If what you are saying is true, then the legs would telescope in the opposite direction. They don't.

This is what I mean about bad info - Gitzo, Induro, Feisol, RRS all base their stability on the diameter of the top, not the bottom tube. Think about it.

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Dec 7, 2017 11:44:28   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
cameraf4 wrote:
Without stepping on anyone's toes, I'd like to mention that this is Spock's "first DSLR." At that point in my photographic life with film SLRs, I didn't know that photography would become the passion in my life that it did. I was not about to go out and buy a top-of-the-line tripod just as I was not about to buy a 5x-as-expensive Top Professional camera.
Let me give a shout-out to inexpensive tripods that are actually pretty good. First, think "Aluminium" rather than "Carbon Fibre". That can come later if you like. Second, IMHO, most of us have found that a "Ball Head" is a better idea (in most cases) than a "Pan-and-Tilt" head. Look for a pod that comes with one that also incorporates a "Quick Release System".
My daughter has asked for a tripod for Xmas. I have been considering this one:[ https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013UES9UU/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_3?ie=UTF8&smid=A135F4J7WACEE&th=1]. As a "starter", it looks pretty good to me.
Without stepping on anyone's toes, I'd like to men... (show quote)


Aluminum vibrates, is heavy and is less suitable than carbon fiber.
Pan and tilt heads generally vibrate as well, unless they are studio quality Arca Swiss or Linhof.
The universal quick release system is the arca-swiss plate and clamp - anything else is not as well supported (tripod collars, L brackets, etc)
The Zomei tripod is ok as long as you don't use it for macro or long lenses. Great for landscape though, and it is small and light.

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Dec 7, 2017 12:18:56   #
bpulv Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
mr spock wrote:
I recently got my first DSLR and just added a 70-300 telephoto lens that will require using a tripod for best results. Can I get a good one within a $100-$150 budget?
Thanks


Think well made, strong and USED!

A well made and cared for tripod does not ware out or become obsolete like a camera. Everybody is thinking expensive and new. Why spend hundreds of dollars on something that only holds the camera steady. When buying older tripods, unlike other devices, heavy weight is desirable because it will hold your camera steady even in high wind conditions. I would first buy a used heavy duty tripod and, later when you have the need, buy a newer lightweight travel tripod if you need one.

My main tripod is a Vivitar that was built by Bogen and that I bought at Fedco (Fedco was a precursor to Costco in the 70's). It was sold for $125 and was designed for up to a 4x5 view or press camera. I have used it for over 40 years for 4x5, 2 1/4 square, 35mm and now my D800 and big lenses.

Here are some links to used tripods on E-bay that will serve you well for a fraction of the cost of buying new. I limited my search to USA sellers only and excluded auctions:

This link will take you to a Heavy Duty Bogen-Manfrotto $100 on E-bay. That would leave you $50 for a suitable head.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bogen-Manfrotto-3221-Professional-Black-Tripod-W-O-Head/382284527725?hash=item5901eef86d:g:CugAAOSwsYpaC~~Y

Another heavy duty Bogen without head for $89.99.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Manfrotto-055CL-Bogen-3021N-Tripod-LATE-MODEL-in-EXCELLENT-condition-NICE/292352189952?epid=1441073749&hash=item44118c6600:g:xZQAAOSwgspZqZmJ

Bogen for $129.95 and $29.99 shipping. For $159.94, you will have a topnotch heavy duty tripod with head.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Bogen-Manfrotto-3021-Professional-Tripod-3437-3D-Pan-Tilt-Head-FILM-DIGI-EX/332213143204?epid=97304794&hash=item4d597246a4:g:WO0AAOSww9xZB5Eq

This Manfrotto 3021 Pro Tripod with Case for $74.99 and $17.99 shipping has a suitable head.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Manfrotto-3021-Pro-Tripod-with-Case/142603424704?epid=97304794&hash=item2133d393c0:g:kekAAOSwySVaHRFG

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Dec 7, 2017 12:20:56   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Gene51 wrote:
No. Load capacity tells you nothing about stability. The weakest link in a tripod is the top plate that receives the head, and the top legs and how they attach to the plate. Vibrations usually don't come from the ground up. They start at the camera - wind, shutter shock, mirror slap - all conspire to rob your images of sharpness. If what you are saying is true, then the legs would telescope in the opposite direction. They don't.

This is what I mean about bad info - Gitzo, Induro, Feisol, RRS all base their stability on the diameter of the top, not the bottom tube. Think about it.
No. Load capacity tells you nothing about stabilit... (show quote)


I have thought about it - for A LONG time ....and I think you should too ....

In a perfect ( non-compromising) world the legs would not telescope at all - they would be the same large diameter all the way down .....

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Dec 7, 2017 12:29:56   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
If you want STRONG, NO VIBRATION and LIGHT go to wood. I have two and don't use them but don't know why not. Maybe I will start.

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Dec 7, 2017 12:29:57   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
If you want STRONG, NO VIBRATION and LIGHT go to wood. I have two and don't use them but don't know why not. Maybe I will start.

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Dec 7, 2017 12:40:35   #
BlackRipleyDog
 
mr spock wrote:
I recently got my first DSLR and just added a 70-300 telephoto lens that will require using a tripod for best results. Can I get a good one within a $100-$150 budget?
Thanks


Yeah, Adorama has a few Manfrotto's from $125 to $200. Great product.

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Dec 7, 2017 12:46:45   #
PGHphoto Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
mr spock wrote:
I recently got my first DSLR and just added a 70-300 telephoto lens that will require using a tripod for best results. Can I get a good one within a $100-$150 budget?
Thanks


Contrary to a lot of the opinions here, I know you can get high quality, perfectly stable tripods for less than the cost of an iPhone X. But you need to do the homework. I did a lot of research and borrowed a lot of friend's tripods and came to the conclusion that K&F makes great, affordable sturdy tripods for under $200 in carbon fiber (mine was $165 on sale). I am not planning to replace it 'when I can afford to' because its exactly what I need. The only thing that the $400 - $600 tripods have in their advantage is that they are usually pounds heavier and more likely to withstand 60 mile per hour winds. I don't shoot under those conditions and my K&F has no problem with gusts up to 35 mph. I always add my backpack to the center hook to add weight and have had 0 issues with movement or vibration on gusty seashores. And who needs to carry more unnecessary weight ? I Would rather pack the extra lens.

My suggestion is to obviously avoid the $35 tripods at Walmart and try other people's tripods to make an informed decision. My K&F decision was influenced most by talking with pro's who shoot in similar situations as I do and trying their equipment. Most were happy to let me play with their toys. I can't understand buying the top of the line and never utilizing more than 10% of their capabilities when you can get higher performance than you will ever need at 1/3 of the price. I always look for value, not price.

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Dec 7, 2017 12:46:47   #
wegriffin8642 Loc: Houston, Tx
 
I recently purchased a Mefoto Globetrotter from BHPhoto for $166 and received a $50 rebate. It is rated at supporting 16#. I bought the aluminum verson as the carbon verdion was twice that price.

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Dec 7, 2017 12:57:33   #
TheShoe Loc: Lacey, WA
 
whwiden wrote:
The D3300 does not shoto in mirror lock up mode. The mirror lock up on that camera is only for cleaning. I am not sure how well it will work on a tripod at lower shutter speeds. It is a light camera and may have vibration from mirror slap. With longer lenses you may have better results with VR and a monopod. I have that camera but do not use it on a tripod. There may be a way to use it to advantage on a tripod but I do not know the technique.

Set the shutter to delay or 1 or 2 seconds to allow time for any vibrations to dampen?

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Dec 7, 2017 13:55:30   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
mr spock wrote:
I recently got my first DSLR and just added a 70-300 telephoto lens that will require using a tripod for best results. Can I get a good one within a $100-$150 budget?
Thanks


You can get a very good tripod for general use for under $50. Check here:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=camera+tripod

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Dec 7, 2017 14:40:01   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I'm in the no camp on this one. It's only logical.
--Bob
mr spock wrote:
I recently got my first DSLR and just added a 70-300 telephoto lens that will require using a tripod for best results. Can I get a good one within a $100-$150 budget?
Thanks

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Dec 7, 2017 14:42:09   #
Vince68 Loc: Wappingers Falls, NY
 
Gene51 wrote:
I did the same. I started off with a beefy tripod - a Feisol CT-3472 - which I used for everything. It cost me $525 back in 2007, when it was first introduced. At the time money was a little tight, but I had just purchased (and returned) a Gitzo Series 3 - an excellent tripod, recommended by many bloggers and on many forum threads as being "all you need" for a long lens. I tried it with a 500mm lens on a crop camera. It vibrated, so I sent it back and got the Feisol, which was the same price as the Series 3 Gitzo, but had thicker legs and correspondingly better stability.

Two years ago I got it's smaller brother, the CT-3442 - same design and build quality but not as beefy. It was $310. While it has a load capacity of 55 lbs and will certainly "support" an 8.5 lb load, such as my 150-600 and D800 - it is far from stable. But I would not expect that it would. The bigger tripod has 37mm diameter top tubes, while the smaller one has 28mm tubes. I just wanted a smaller, lighter tripod that I might use while traveling or backpacking, where I seldom use anything longer than 300mm. The CT-3442 easily fits in a carry on bag for overhead compartment storage on an airplane, and can be strapped to my backpack when I hike, and it only weighs 2.4 lbs.
I did the same. I started off with a beefy tripod ... (show quote)


Don't mean to barge in and steal your post Gene, but reading all of the posts to this point, here is another informative and accurate article on choosing a tripod for the OP and any others to read.

https://photographylife.com/how-to-choose-and-buy-a-tripod-for-a-dslr-camera

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Dec 7, 2017 14:45:19   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
rmalarz wrote:
I'm in the no camp on this one. It's only logical.
--Bob


A bold claim. Logic is in the eye of the beholder. I am a serious experienced photographer; I have two under-$50 tripods,
and I have never found them wanting. Any photo gear should be appropriate for it's user. The concept of "good enough,"
can apply to any product or service. >Alan

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