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Stitching -- Photoshop Elements or Image Composite Editor [ICE]?
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Dec 2, 2017 18:24:00   #
David in Dallas Loc: Dallas, Texas, USA
 
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Dec 3, 2017 08:24:04   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Preachdude wrote:
I have been experimenting with stitched panoramas. At first, I did my stitching with Photoshop Elements 9, but then I heard about ICE. So far, I think I prefer ICE. Yes, the interface could be refined, but the quality of the results is definitely there. I made this image at "Valley View" in Yosemite Valley, which is on Northside Drive, just before the Pohono Bridge crossover. I shot it with a rented Sony RX1R, which I placed on my tripod in portrait (vertical) position. I made four images that I have stitched together. Exposure was f/8 at 1/100th, with ISO Auto.
I have been experimenting with stitched panoramas.... (show quote)


Whatever works is what I use. My go to these days is Lightroom, because I already use Lr and after stitching I still have a raw file rather than a bitmapped image. This allows me to simply apply lens corrections to the component images, merge, then do what I normally do with my single shot images, in Lr, Ps, Nik and On1.

When it stumbles, I use my previous "go to" PT/GUI - this is an old program from 2000, but it is open source/free and it works well, and as of a few years ago, they added a graphic user interface to make it easier to use.

You can download it here:

https://www.ptgui.com/panotools.html

On1 has a pano merge that I haven't really tried yet.

ICE is pretty good too.

Photoshop/PSE is ok, but you can be a little limited on image adjustments since the traditional method is to load bitmap images as layers, align and stack to panorama. If you are on CC, the ACR merge to panorama works exactly like the one in Lr - on raw files.

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Dec 3, 2017 08:24:56   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Rich2236 wrote:
I tried to input ICE and came up with anything but the stitching program. Is there something else to type with the word ICE to get to the website?
Rich... If it is more convenient, Private Message me.


https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/product/computational-photography-applications/image-composite-editor/

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Dec 3, 2017 14:33:40   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
Preachdude wrote:
I have been experimenting with stitched panoramas. At first, I did my stitching with Photoshop Elements 9, but then I heard about ICE. So far, I think I prefer ICE. Yes, the interface could be refined, but the quality of the results is definitely there. I made this image at "Valley View" in Yosemite Valley, which is on Northside Drive, just before the Pohono Bridge crossover. I shot it with a rented Sony RX1R, which I placed on my tripod in portrait (vertical) position. I made four images that I have stitched together. Exposure was f/8 at 1/100th, with ISO Auto.
I have been experimenting with stitched panoramas.... (show quote)


Earlier in this thread I mentioned that ICE had worked where PS had failed. Here is a side by side. ICE on the left, ACR on the right


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Dec 3, 2017 14:49:50   #
Preachdude Loc: Geneva, OH
 
Rich1939 wrote:
Earlier in this thread I mentioned that ICE had worked where PS had failed. Here is a side by side. ICE on the left, ACR on the right


Thanks, Rich. I had similar experiences. ICE may be an old program, but it works smoothly, and it seldom has given me any problems. Thanks again for the example.

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Dec 3, 2017 16:00:38   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
Preachdude wrote:
Thanks, Rich. I had similar experiences. ICE may be an old program, but it works smoothly, and it seldom has given me any problems. Thanks again for the example.

One minor draw back, no raw or dng output

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Dec 12, 2017 15:02:11   #
SalvageDiver Loc: Huntington Beach CA
 
Yosemite if my favorite place to shoot. Beautiful picture. Love you capture, great colors and mood.

BTW, nice pano.

Preachdude wrote:
I have been experimenting with stitched panoramas. At first, I did my stitching with Photoshop Elements 9, but then I heard about ICE. So far, I think I prefer ICE. Yes, the interface could be refined, but the quality of the results is definitely there. I made this image at "Valley View" in Yosemite Valley, which is on Northside Drive, just before the Pohono Bridge crossover. I shot it with a rented Sony RX1R, which I placed on my tripod in portrait (vertical) position. I made four images that I have stitched together. Exposure was f/8 at 1/100th, with ISO Auto.
I have been experimenting with stitched panoramas.... (show quote)

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Dec 17, 2017 16:37:43   #
Preachdude Loc: Geneva, OH
 
Rich1939 wrote:
One minor draw back, no raw or dng output


I agree. There's no raw or DNG output, but you can save as a TIFF, which can be very useful. I've also made note of the fact that good quality panoramas can be made with P/S cameras. This pano stitched from images made just outside my apartment was made with an old Sony HX100v, whose sensor is very small. I turned the camera vertically, set it to its widest zoom setting, and made four images. Each image was HDR bracketed +/- 1 stop. After processing them in Photomatix Pro, the four resulting images were stitched with ICE and cropped. PS Elements 9 was used to do a bit of final tweaking. I've not attempted a large print with it, but the result is surprisingly satisfying.



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Dec 17, 2017 16:48:08   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
Preachdude wrote:
I agree. There's no raw or DNG output, but you can save as a TIFF, which can be very useful. I've also made note of the fact that good quality panoramas can be made with P/S cameras. This pano stitched from images made just outside my apartment was made with an old Sony HX100v, whose sensor is very small. I turned the camera vertically, set it to its widest zoom setting, and made four images. Each image was HDR bracketed +/- 1 stop. After processing them in Photomatix Pro, the four resulting images were stitched with ICE and cropped. PS Elements 9 was used to do a bit of final tweaking. I've not attempted a large print with it, but the result is surprisingly satisfying.
I agree. There's no raw or DNG output, but you can... (show quote)

That image makes me cold just looking at it! I like it!
The more I mess with panos the more I'm hooked.

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Dec 23, 2017 18:41:14   #
Preachdude Loc: Geneva, OH
 
We had a dusting of snow last night, so this morning I decided to take advantage. I took my Sony HX100V point-and-shoot, set it up to bracket +/- 1 stop, and made six images at f/2.8 at ISO-100 -- while simply sitting on the porch of my apartment. Then I stitched the bracketed /HDR images together with Microsoft's Image Composite Editor (ICE). The individual image sets were assembled with Photomatix Pro 5.0 and optomized for contrast. As panoramas go, I think it ended up a little too wide for my taste. Horizontally, it's about 160 degrees. Feedback, please!


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Dec 10, 2018 15:18:52   #
Preachdude Loc: Geneva, OH
 
Last month (November 2018) I went to Yosemite with my relatively new Sony RX-10ii. I tried making some stitched panoramas with it, and the results are satisfying (though not perfect). I'm posting a couple of them now.


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Dec 10, 2018 17:34:00   #
David in Dallas Loc: Dallas, Texas, USA
 
They're very nice. I would probably have pulled down the highlights and pumped up the shadows a bit, but they are nice the way they are.

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Dec 11, 2018 07:49:35   #
Preachdude Loc: Geneva, OH
 
David in Dallas wrote:
They're very nice. I would probably have pulled down the highlights and pumped up the shadows a bit, but they are nice the way they are.


Thanks for the suggestions. After Christmas, I'll look at it again.

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Feb 10, 2019 06:30:38   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
BassmanBruce wrote:
Pretty impressive job and shot, particularly on the foreground detail. I don't see any evidence of parallax.
The composition is nice as well.
I don't do a lot of panos but I use PSE 13 for the ones I have.



Parallax would be more of a factor when shooting the panorama than something that would be addressed in post processing.

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