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Nov 26, 2017 14:22:28   #
EyeSawYou
 
Architect1776 wrote:

He was the laughing stock of the world. Look at all the world leaders who are speaking out at how glad President Trump is president and there is real and decisive good leadership again coming from the USA.
ISIS is being crushed, Iran is scared to death again, the Saudis are granting women rights never unheard of before and on and on.
obummer was such a joke, bowing down to other leaders and groveling at their feet begging for forgiveness and apologising for America's greatness and promising dictators that he will try to weaken the USA to make it irrelevant in the world.
img src="https://static.uglyhedgehog.com/images/s... (show quote)


Yes, while Obama was chastising the real and only Democratic Republic and true friend in the middle east...Israel.

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Nov 26, 2017 14:30:16   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Architect1776 wrote:

He was the laughing stock of the world. Look at all the world leaders who are speaking out at how glad President Trump is president and there is real and decisive good leadership again coming from the USA.
ISIS is being crushed, Iran is scared to death again, the Saudis are granting women rights never unheard of before and on and on.
obummer was such a joke, bowing down to other leaders and groveling at their feet begging for forgiveness and apologising for America's greatness and promising dictators that he will try to weaken the USA to make it irrelevant in the world.
img src="https://static.uglyhedgehog.com/images/s... (show quote)



"Look at all the world leaders who are speaking out at how glad President Trump is president and there is real and decisive good leadership again coming from the USA." Archi


Any links to these leaders? Putin? Duterte? Is that how Fox tells the story? Trump is abdicating US leadership across the board. It's now Merkel and Xi Jinping.

Trump the man to lead realistic US retreat
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/inquirer/trump-the-man-to-lead-realistic-us-retreat/news-story/7f486bb6490a8cc55981fcfa935ccca5

Trump's US has Abdicated Global Leadership
15 JUN 2017
Interview with The Hon Gareth Evans AC QC FAIIA

http://www.internationalaffairs.org.au/australianoutlook/trumps-us-abdicated-global-leadership/

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Nov 26, 2017 14:37:23   #
EyeSawYou
 
[quote=Texcaster]"Look at all the world leaders who are speaking out at how glad President Trump is president and there is real and decisive good leadership again coming from the USA." Archi


Any links to these leaders? Putin? Duterte? Is that how Fox tells the story? Trump is abdicating US leadership across the board. It's now Merkel and Xi Jinping.

Trump the man to lead realistic US retreat
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/inquirer/trump-the-man-to-lead-realistic-us-retreat/news-story/7f486bb6490a8cc55981fcfa935ccca5

Trump's US has Abdicated Global Leadership
15 JUN 2017
Interview with The Hon Gareth Evans AC QC FAIIA
...

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Nov 26, 2017 14:39:07   #
EyeSawYou
 
Texcaster wrote:
"Look at all the world leaders who are speaking out at how glad President Trump is president and there is real and decisive good leadership again coming from the USA." Archi


Any links to these leaders? Putin? Duterte? Is that how Fox tells the story? Trump is abdicating US leadership across the board. It's now Merkel and Xi Jinping.

Trump the man to lead realistic US retreat
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/inquirer/trump-the-man-to-lead-realistic-us-retreat/news-story/7f486bb6490a8cc55981fcfa935ccca5

Trump's US has Abdicated Global Leadership
15 JUN 2017
Interview with The Hon Gareth Evans AC QC FAIIA

http://www.internationalaffairs.org.au/australianoutlook/trumps-us-abdicated-global-leadership/
"Look at all the world leaders who are speaki... (show quote)



Trump is abdicating US leadership across the board??? ROTFLMBO you believe that f**e news BS?? Trump is actually taking leadership while Obama was "leading" from his behind..I mean leading from behind. lol You are clueless lol.

The Obama Doctrine has made the world more dangerous
https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/04/16/the-obama-doctrine-has-made-world-more-dangerous/T4POP5pZtQBI2dXziK5JtM/story.html

By Jeff Jacoby GLOBE COLUMNIST APRIL 17, 2016
FIVE YEARS AGO, President Obama hailed the military campaign in Libya that toppled Moammar Khadafy as one of the foreign policy triumphs of his presidency. Today he calls Libya his worst mistake. But though he may have changed his grade from an A to an F, his commitment to “leading from behind” — a euphemism for American passivity and abdication — hasn’t budged.

On the day Khadafy was k**led, in October 2011, Obama took a victory lap. “Our brave pilots have flown in Libya’s skies, our sailors have provided support off Libya’s shores, and our leadership at NATO has helped guide our coalition,” he declared. “Without putting a single US service member on the ground, we achieved our objectives.”

He was wrong. Libya soon imploded into chaos and violence. It became a terrorist badlands, where more than 10,000 people have been murdered — including US Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three of his colleagues, k**led by Islamists in B******i just 11 months after Obama’s “mission accomplished” moment in the Rose Garden.

The president acknowledges now that his policy in Libya ended in disaster. In a Fox News interview last week, he confessed his negligence in “failing to plan for the day after” the dictator was o*******wn.

In other interviews, Obama has pinned the blame for the Libya debacle less on his own lack of pr********n for a post-Khadafy t***sition than on Europe’s failure to stay engaged. “When I go back, and I ask myself what went wrong, there’s room for criticism,” he recently told The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg, “because I had more faith in the Europeans, given Libya’s proximity, being invested in the follow-up.” But when the United States heads for the exits, its allies are apt to follow suit. And Obama, who had agreed only reluctantly to intervene in Libya in the first place, had no interest in sticking around.

It didn’t take long for Libya to drop off the White House radar screen. “The inattention was not just neglect. It was policy,” concluded The New York Times in a lengthy review of the Libyan fiasco earlier this year. The administration imposed “fierce limits” on any US role in Libya’s metamorphosis — conditions so strict that America in effect washed its hands of responsibility for the country’s fate. Not surprisingly, that fate has been ghastly.

It may seem astonishing that Obama, who so harshly condemned his predecessor’s blunders in Iraq, would wind up repeating the gravest of those blunders in Libya — namely, not being ready for the instability and insurgency that would follow Western intervention. As military historian Max Boot remarks, by 2011 “it was not exactly a secret that bad things happen if the United States and its allies o*******w a strongman without having a plan for what comes next.”

But Obama is better at deploring other people’s foreign policy messes than at learning from them. The lesson he takes away from the Iraq war was that the United States has no business intervening militarily in the Middle East — and that the greater the intervention, the greater the resulting fiasco. The facts haven’t borne out that conclusion. But Obama won’t be budged.

When George W. Bush announced in January 2007 that he intended to “surge” additional troops to Iraq and implement a new counterinsurgency strategy, then-Senator Obama was scornful: “I am not persuaded that 20,000 additional troops in Iraq are going to solve the sectarian violence there,” he said. “In fact, I think it will do the reverse.” In the event, of course, Bush’s surge proved a remarkable success. By the time Obama took office, Al Qaeda in Iraq was crippled, attacks were down 90 percent, and Iraq was being governed by democratically elected politicians. The new commander in chief was happy to take political credit for victory in Iraq, which Vice President Biden trumpeted early on as “one of the great achievements” of the Obama administration.

But none of that led Obama to question the wisdom of pulling all US forces out of Iraq, or to heed warnings that the swift disappearance of tens of thousands of American peacekeepers would leave a catastrophic vacuum that the region’s deadliest forces would rush to exploit. Obama’s determined disengagement wrecked what had so painstakingly been won in Iraq. Without America’s restraining presence, Nouri al-Maliki’s Shiite-dominated government grew ruthlessly authoritarian, Iran’s influence intensified, and ISIS began its horrific reign of terror.

More “leading from behind” followed in Syria. Obama issued tough threats of chemical weapons “red lines” and demanded Bashar al-Assad resign, but the bristling words were never backed up with deeds. As America’s credibility diminished, predictable consequences ensued: soaring death tolls, vast refugee floods, and the emboldening of antidemocratic regimes from Moscow to Beijing.

Yet even now, Obama cannot see that a doctrine premised on avoiding American involvement in the world’s conflicts is bound to fail. A policy built around US disengagement only intensifies global disorder. The president concedes that he should have had a better “day-after” plan in Libya — but still maintains that the calamity his approach caused shows he was right all along.

In Goldberg’s words, “Libya proved to [Obama] that the Middle East was best avoided.” It reinforced his subsequent decision to do nothing about Syria. He has no regrets about abandoning his red line — he says now that he is “very proud” he decided not to stop Assad’s horror show. To this day, Obama has not altered the mindset he started with: that American power cannot fix what ails the planet’s bad neighborhoods, and will likely make them worse.

But Obama’s foreign policy stewardship teaches a very different lesson. Since 2009, America’s credibility has been badly eroded and the world has become far more dangerous and unstable. The price of American retreat has been terrible, made all the worse by a president too rigid to change his mind.

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Nov 26, 2017 14:43:40   #
EyeSawYou
 
Anyway, let's get back to the OP subject, Time magazine covers and their bias.

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Nov 26, 2017 14:51:52   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
Trump is abdicating US leadership across the board??? ROTFLMBO you believe that f**e news BS?? Trump is actually taking leadership while Obama was "leading" from his behind..I mean leading from behind. lol You are clueless lol.

The Obama Doctrine has made the world more dangerous
https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/04/16/the-obama-doctrine-has-made-world-more-dangerous/T4POP5pZtQBI2dXziK5JtM/story.html

By Jeff Jacoby GLOBE COLUMNIST APRIL 17, 2016
FIVE YEARS AGO, President Obama hailed the military campaign in Libya that toppled Moammar Khadafy as one of the foreign policy triumphs of his presidency. Today he calls Libya his worst mistake. But though he may have changed his grade from an A to an F, his commitment to “leading from behind” — a euphemism for American passivity and abdication — hasn’t budged.

On the day Khadafy was k**led, in October 2011, Obama took a victory lap. “Our brave pilots have flown in Libya’s skies, our sailors have provided support off Libya’s shores, and our leadership at NATO has helped guide our coalition,” he declared. “Without putting a single US service member on the ground, we achieved our objectives.”

He was wrong. Libya soon imploded into chaos and violence. It became a terrorist badlands, where more than 10,000 people have been murdered — including US Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three of his colleagues, k**led by Islamists in B******i just 11 months after Obama’s “mission accomplished” moment in the Rose Garden.

The president acknowledges now that his policy in Libya ended in disaster. In a Fox News interview last week, he confessed his negligence in “failing to plan for the day after” the dictator was o*******wn.

In other interviews, Obama has pinned the blame for the Libya debacle less on his own lack of pr********n for a post-Khadafy t***sition than on Europe’s failure to stay engaged. “When I go back, and I ask myself what went wrong, there’s room for criticism,” he recently told The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg, “because I had more faith in the Europeans, given Libya’s proximity, being invested in the follow-up.” But when the United States heads for the exits, its allies are apt to follow suit. And Obama, who had agreed only reluctantly to intervene in Libya in the first place, had no interest in sticking around.

It didn’t take long for Libya to drop off the White House radar screen. “The inattention was not just neglect. It was policy,” concluded The New York Times in a lengthy review of the Libyan fiasco earlier this year. The administration imposed “fierce limits” on any US role in Libya’s metamorphosis — conditions so strict that America in effect washed its hands of responsibility for the country’s fate. Not surprisingly, that fate has been ghastly.

It may seem astonishing that Obama, who so harshly condemned his predecessor’s blunders in Iraq, would wind up repeating the gravest of those blunders in Libya — namely, not being ready for the instability and insurgency that would follow Western intervention. As military historian Max Boot remarks, by 2011 “it was not exactly a secret that bad things happen if the United States and its allies o*******w a strongman without having a plan for what comes next.”

But Obama is better at deploring other people’s foreign policy messes than at learning from them. The lesson he takes away from the Iraq war was that the United States has no business intervening militarily in the Middle East — and that the greater the intervention, the greater the resulting fiasco. The facts haven’t borne out that conclusion. But Obama won’t be budged.

When George W. Bush announced in January 2007 that he intended to “surge” additional troops to Iraq and implement a new counterinsurgency strategy, then-Senator Obama was scornful: “I am not persuaded that 20,000 additional troops in Iraq are going to solve the sectarian violence there,” he said. “In fact, I think it will do the reverse.” In the event, of course, Bush’s surge proved a remarkable success. By the time Obama took office, Al Qaeda in Iraq was crippled, attacks were down 90 percent, and Iraq was being governed by democratically elected politicians. The new commander in chief was happy to take political credit for victory in Iraq, which Vice President Biden trumpeted early on as “one of the great achievements” of the Obama administration.

But none of that led Obama to question the wisdom of pulling all US forces out of Iraq, or to heed warnings that the swift disappearance of tens of thousands of American peacekeepers would leave a catastrophic vacuum that the region’s deadliest forces would rush to exploit. Obama’s determined disengagement wrecked what had so painstakingly been won in Iraq. Without America’s restraining presence, Nouri al-Maliki’s Shiite-dominated government grew ruthlessly authoritarian, Iran’s influence intensified, and ISIS began its horrific reign of terror.

More “leading from behind” followed in Syria. Obama issued tough threats of chemical weapons “red lines” and demanded Bashar al-Assad resign, but the bristling words were never backed up with deeds. As America’s credibility diminished, predictable consequences ensued: soaring death tolls, vast refugee floods, and the emboldening of antidemocratic regimes from Moscow to Beijing.

Yet even now, Obama cannot see that a doctrine premised on avoiding American involvement in the world’s conflicts is bound to fail. A policy built around US disengagement only intensifies global disorder. The president concedes that he should have had a better “day-after” plan in Libya — but still maintains that the calamity his approach caused shows he was right all along.

In Goldberg’s words, “Libya proved to [Obama] that the Middle East was best avoided.” It reinforced his subsequent decision to do nothing about Syria. He has no regrets about abandoning his red line — he says now that he is “very proud” he decided not to stop Assad’s horror show. To this day, Obama has not altered the mindset he started with: that American power cannot fix what ails the planet’s bad neighborhoods, and will likely make them worse.

But Obama’s foreign policy stewardship teaches a very different lesson. Since 2009, America’s credibility has been badly eroded and the world has become far more dangerous and unstable. The price of American retreat has been terrible, made all the worse by a president too rigid to change his mind.
Trump is abdicating US leadership across the board... (show quote)


Trump is being treated like a stuffed owl by the other leaders just waiting for the next guy to step up.

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Nov 26, 2017 14:54:24   #
EyeSawYou
 
Texcaster wrote:
Trump is being treated like a stuffed owl by the other leaders just waiting for the next guy to step up.


LOL wishful thinking, you just can't accept the fact that it was Obama who created the vacuum in leadership in the US...he was horrible at it.

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Nov 26, 2017 14:56:50   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
Yes, while Obama was chastising the real and only Democratic Republic and true friend in the middle east...Israel.



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Nov 26, 2017 14:57:11   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
EyeSawYou wrote:
LOL wishful thinking, you just can't accept the fact that it was Obama who created the vacuum in leadership in the US...he was horrible at it.



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Nov 26, 2017 14:59:24   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Texcaster wrote:
Trump is being treated like a stuffed owl by the other leaders just waiting for the next guy to step up.


References and not f**e news like CNN who is totally discredited or MSNBC or the Times or the Post which are daily wrong.
I doubt you can find a single source from a real leader with such sentiments. Rocket Boy's opinions are pretty lame to use as well.

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Nov 27, 2017 00:23:07   #
gmcase Loc: Galt's Gulch
 
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Nov 27, 2017 00:33:55   #
dljen Loc: Central PA
 
Why would anyone post a picture of a gun as it was meant for Trump? I don't think this is in good taste for any president.

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Nov 27, 2017 01:18:33   #
drainbamage
 
dljen wrote:
Why would anyone post a picture of a gun as it was meant for Trump? I don't think this is in good taste for any president.


Trump, and us fans, love his sense of humor. It's not directed at anyone...he's just able to do things that incite laughter...his own style of laughter, not Saturday Night Live ugly laughter...

He's funny folks......get it!

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Nov 27, 2017 05:57:54   #
WNC Ralf Loc: Candler NC, in the mountains!
 
Architect1776 wrote:

He was the laughing stock of the world. Look at all the world leaders who are speaking out at how glad President Trump is president and there is real and decisive good leadership again coming from the USA.
ISIS is being crushed, Iran is scared to death again, the Saudis are granting women rights never unheard of before and on and on.
obummer was such a joke, bowing down to other leaders and groveling at their feet begging for forgiveness and apologising for America's greatness and promising dictators that he will try to weaken the USA to make it irrelevant in the world.
img src="https://static.uglyhedgehog.com/images/s... (show quote)

Really? Name a few besides our enemies.

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Nov 27, 2017 09:30:52   #
Bunko.T Loc: Western Australia.
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Pretty d********g and ugly photos by a lib f**e news rag.
Makes Americans want to puke the ugly nasty face.


Ooooooo! I bet this pisses Trump off!! Like many of you bum kissers.
I guess Time will be dubbed F**e news now. Oh, boo hoo hoo.

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