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This is Tiana.
Nov 16, 2017 20:48:13   #
tainkc Loc: Kansas City
 
She is my ex son in law's sister. Even though my daughter is now divorced from him, we are still family and we share in each other's birthdays and holidays. weird, huh?

Anyway, This was taken out of doors and I used a soft box as a fill light under cloudy skies. And no, I did not play with her complexion other than to use frequency separation to reduce some blotchiness that she had, some of which is still evident.

The tightness of the crop is intentional all the way around. I wanted to keep the original background but there was a chunk of blue at the top of her head that did not look right and I could not properly remove. There was junk on the sides that were kind of the same problem. I could have changed the background entirely, but obviously, I chose not to.

She loves it. She put it on Facebook and something like 160 of her friends love it also. There are a ton of comments.

I had a friend once. It was a dog, but it died.



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Nov 16, 2017 22:17:37   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Just curious if it was overcast why did you need a softbox?

And this blue you refer to, what was the source of that?

She is a very pretty girl and you did a good job capturing her beauty.

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Nov 16, 2017 22:52:59   #
tainkc Loc: Kansas City
 
JD750 wrote:
Just curious if it was overcast why did you need a softbox?

And this blue you refer to, what was the source of that?

She is a very pretty girl and you did a good job capturing her beauty.
There were breaks in the clouds here and there and it was late afternoon. As for the soft box, I will use a fill light even on a bright, shiny day. On this particular day with it being dark, without a fill, you would just have a dark picture even at F2.8, which is what I had set. Lighting is everything.

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Nov 16, 2017 23:02:43   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
tainkc wrote:
There were breaks in the clouds here and there and it was late afternoon. As for the soft box, I will use a fill light even on a bright, shiny day. On this particular day with it being dark, without a fill, you would just have a dark picture even at F2.8, which is what I had set. Lighting is everything.


That makes sense. I remember how dark it gets in the Midwest in November on a cloudy day.

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Nov 17, 2017 07:01:11   #
rlaugh Loc: Michigan & Florida
 
I think it's a great crop...seems to be the trend these days, and I like it!...I just found this section, and it seems very informative!...I've got a couple I posted in the gallery I might put in here!!

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Nov 17, 2017 07:12:14   #
tainkc Loc: Kansas City
 
rlaugh wrote:
I think it's a great crop...seems to be the trend these days, and I like it!...I just found this section, and it seems very informative!...I've got a couple I posted in the gallery I might put in here!!
Cool. After posting and receiving criticism in the people section, I have applied those criticisms and now I am getting paid for my portraiture. I am not selling myself cheap either. Not quitting my day job just quite yet. Lol.

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Nov 17, 2017 22:55:20   #
cessnalvr Loc: West virginia
 
Nice job. She could be my friend anytime

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Nov 18, 2017 21:36:32   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
JD750 wrote:
Just curious if it was overcast why did you need a softbox?

And this blue you refer to, what was the source of that?

She is a very pretty girl and you did a good job capturing her beauty.


He was 100% correct to use a soft box for fill. An overcast sky can be the WORST for portraits as the direction of the light is straight down. Unless the top light is blocked, this gives the subject what we call "raccoon eyes"—dark areas around the eyes caused by the eyebrow shading the sockets. The only fix is to block the top and make the light come in from the side or use a fill.

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Nov 20, 2017 00:59:54   #
tainkc Loc: Kansas City
 
CaptainC wrote:
He was 100% correct to use a soft box for fill. An overcast sky can be the WORST for portraits as the direction of the light is straight down. Unless the top light is blocked, this gives the subject what we call "raccoon eyes"—dark areas around the eyes caused by the eyebrow shading the sockets. The only fix is to block the top and make the light come in from the side or use a fill.
You are the one who taught me, Cliff.

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Nov 20, 2017 01:48:55   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
tainkc wrote:
You are the one who taught me, Cliff.


I cannot tell you how good that makes me feel.

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Nov 20, 2017 07:12:56   #
tainkc Loc: Kansas City
 
CaptainC wrote:
I cannot tell you how good that makes me feel.
Well, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that you lnow what you are talking about, so, you are very welcome! Now, If I can only figure out why you don't like it when I crop tight. Notice that I have eased up on that also?

Tom

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Nov 20, 2017 11:22:52   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
tainkc wrote:
You are the one who taught me, Cliff.


Well the reason CaptianC gave for using it is different reason than the reason you gave me. Just saying... ;)

You never stop learning right?

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Nov 21, 2017 00:14:37   #
tainkc Loc: Kansas City
 
JD750 wrote:
Well the reason CaptianC gave for using it is different reason than the reason you gave me. Just saying... ;)

You never stop learning right?
Yep!

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Nov 22, 2017 08:46:20   #
bkyser Loc: Fly over country in Indiana
 
JD750 wrote:
Well the reason CaptianC gave for using it is different reason than the reason you gave me. Just saying... ;)

You never stop learning right?


Well, not exactly different. You get the same raccoon eye problem in bright sunlight as well as a cloudy day with the light overhead, the difference is that the shadows without the clouds are much more harsh.

I never shoot outside without either OCF, or a reflector. I prefer a flash, as I have total control over that. With a reflector, a break in the clouds, or even an assistant who isn't paying attention can vastly affect the outcome.

bk

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