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Nov 14, 2017 20:33:35   #
sliberia Loc: Curacao W I
 
When a picture is cropped in Lightroom are the cropped pixels thrown away? If I later browse the pictures in Adobe Bridge I only see the cropped version.

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Nov 14, 2017 20:37:50   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
sliberia wrote:
When a picture is cropped in Lightroom are the cropped pixels thrown away? If I later browse the pictures in Adobe Bridge I only see the cropped version.


If it's the raw file then the cropped pixels are still there, (the jpeg would be cropped). It would interesting if you go into lightroom and make a virtual copy.

Do you see both versions in Bridge?

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Nov 14, 2017 20:52:53   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
Why, if you are using Lightroom, do you even want to open Bridge?

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Nov 14, 2017 21:00:07   #
sliberia Loc: Curacao W I
 
I have my Lightroom Catalogue on a separate disk. In a hurry I sometimes use ACR to do some edits without having to keep my Lightroom disk on the road with me. Afterwards when I get home I synch the LR cat.

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Nov 14, 2017 21:40:41   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
sliberia wrote:
When a picture is cropped in Lightroom are the cropped pixels thrown away? If I later browse the pictures in Adobe Bridge I only see the cropped version.


My guess is that the LR preference panel in your catalog is set to "Include Develop settings in Metadata inside JPEG, TIFF, PNG, and PSD files" and to "Automatically write changes into XMP" (this is in Catalog Settings/Metadata)? These settings allow you to see your edited files in Bridge and other programs that read metadata. Your original file is still stored in its original folder where you have put it and is not changed by doing edits in LR. LR makes no changes to your original file, including when you crop. Bridge is showing you the final versions of your files edited in LR.

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Nov 15, 2017 11:29:15   #
Dale40203 Loc: Louisville, KY
 
blackest wrote:
If it's the raw file then the cropped pixels are still there, (the jpeg would be cropped). It would interesting if you go into lightroom and make a virtual copy.

Do you see both versions in Bridge?


I find Bridge to be a more convenient first step in sorting/weeding files before adding them to a permanent LR catalog.
It's also the only way I will deal with files provided by clients for post production.

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Nov 15, 2017 11:39:40   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
Interesting. Never did use Bridge, although I have it. Writing this to let other readers know that LR can do all the sorting and processing one normally needs, at least for 90% or so of most of our photos. Found LR to be so easy and quick to use. I can load a couple of thousand files and zip through them, putting an X on the really bad ones, then delete the entire bunch (could be hundreds) with one action. I can mark any number of photos and then separate them from the group in multiple ways with a click or two. Once someone knows the program, as with any program, it can "dance," but how fast and easy it "dances" depends on the user...there is the waltz and then there is the tango, you get to decide which "dance" the program will do based on your knowledge.

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Nov 15, 2017 11:50:39   #
Yankeepapa6 Loc: New York City
 
via the lens wrote:
Interesting. Never did use Bridge, although I have it. Writing this to let other readers know that LR can do all the sorting and processing one normally needs, at least for 90% or so of most of our photos. Found LR to be so easy and quick to use. I can load a couple of thousand files and zip through them, putting an X on the really bad ones, then delete the entire bunch (could be hundreds) with one action. I can mark any number of photos and then separate them from the group in multiple ways with a click or two. Once someone knows the program, as with any program, it can "dance," but how fast and easy it "dances" depends on the user...there is the waltz and then there is the tango, you get to decide which "dance" the program will do based on your knowledge.
Interesting. Never did use Bridge, although I hav... (show quote)


Did I miss the part where he wanted to know what you thought regarding his use of Bridge??

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Nov 15, 2017 11:53:44   #
Dale40203 Loc: Louisville, KY
 
Using Bridge to "cull" your shots in the beginning spares LR from having to process them unnecessarily. Less writing and deleting activity on your drive, less chance to cause LR to corrupt a catalog.

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Nov 15, 2017 11:57:18   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
via the lens wrote:
Interesting. Never did use Bridge, although I have it. Writing this to let other readers know that LR can do all the sorting and processing one normally needs, at least for 90% or so of most of our photos. Found LR to be so easy and quick to use.


You made my point. Why add extra steps when Lightroom will take care of everything.

Question: Do you add keywords when you import or after you cull?

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Nov 15, 2017 12:09:35   #
DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area
 
blackest wrote:
If it's the raw file then the cropped pixels are still there, (the jpeg would be cropped). It would interesting if you go into lightroom and make a virtual copy.

Do you see both versions in Bridge?


Whether it's RAW or JPG, LR is a non-destructive editor. You edits are saved in the catalog, and the original image is not changed.

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Nov 15, 2017 12:25:48   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
You made my point. Why add extra steps when Lightroom will take care of everything.

Question: Do you add keywords when you import or after you cull?


I have tried adding keywords upon import but I am often shooting different subjects so that won't work for me most of the time. If I'm just trying out something with, for example, a flower, I might do it upon import. Mostly I add after the fact and after I have deleted really bad images. Sometimes I'll forgot so every once and awhile, often over a cup of coffee in the morning, I'll check out the Smart collection that is included in LR that says "without keywords," and I'll start key-wording then. My keywords have been organized into main headers and sub-headings so it is fairly easy to do, although I will occasionally screw some keywords up and then have to fix it afterwards. About 99% of my photos contain one or more keywords.

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Nov 15, 2017 12:28:07   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
Yankeepapa6 wrote:
Did I miss the part where he wanted to know what you thought regarding his use of Bridge??


No, did not include that but did say I don't use Bridge and did offer some information that others, perhaps not you, might find helpful. Thanks for pointing out that omission on my part, always good to have "board editors" watching out when we respond.

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Nov 15, 2017 12:35:03   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
Dale40203 wrote:
Using Bridge to "cull" your shots in the beginning spares LR from having to process them unnecessarily. Less writing and deleting activity on your drive, less chance to cause LR to corrupt a catalog.


On that second sentence about the drive, I am not a die-hard technical person on equipment so I just never even think about that. I always back up, replace drives as needed, and do watch out for how much data I am putting on them, so thanks for sharing that information. On the first sentence, regarding "spares LR from having to process them unnecessarily," I don't know what you mean by this as LR does not process anything until you start the process of editing. All the program does is load the images into a folder of your choice and then link the folder to the program application, so that sentence is confusing for me. If any changes are made to the image as you viewed it in the application, the change would be made to the catalog, which is separate from your images. The only time I've had a corrupt catalog when I did something wrong, which happens every so often, but backing up the catalog along the way means you can use the backup.

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Nov 15, 2017 12:44:20   #
Dale40203 Loc: Louisville, KY
 
via the lens wrote:
On that second sentence about the drive, I am not a die-hard technical person on equipment so I just never even think about that. I always back up, replace drives as needed, and do watch out for how much data I am putting on them, so thanks for sharing that information. On the first sentence, regarding "spares LR from having to process them unnecessarily," I don't know what you mean by this as LR does not process anything until you start the process of editing. All the program does is load the images into a folder of your choice and then link the folder to the program application, so that sentence is confusing for me. If any changes are made to the image as you viewed it in the application, the change would be made to the catalog, which is separate from your images. The only time I've had a corrupt catalog when I did something wrong, which happens every so often, but backing up the catalog along the way means you can use the backup.
On that second sentence about the drive, I am not ... (show quote)


By "process" I the mean only the induction of entries to the catalog, not any kind of file alteration.
I find it quicker to look at the smaller group if new files in a browser (which is what Bridge is), instead of waiting for LR to do its thing.

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