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Nov 6, 2017 19:08:49   #
dreklaw Loc: Tucson
 
I also don’t want to go from CS6 to CC. easiest is to get the free DNG Converter from Adobe and batch convert all your images at once. ACR and PS6 will work with the DNGs, which are still raw images.

On1 Raw 2018, releasing very soon, now will do everything for most needs. Awesome program, under $100.

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Nov 6, 2017 19:11:35   #
papa Loc: Rio Dell, CA
 
William Royer wrote:
I’ve been using Photoshop/ACR for many years — purchasing updates along the way. Now have PS CS6. Should soon be receiving new Nikon D850. As I understand, my alternatives are to go to the subscription basis for PS CC (which I absolutely do NOT want to do); to convert all the RAW files to DNG and continue to use CS6 (although it’s not clear to me whether ACR will work the same on those files); or, to change to a whole new PP system. So, my questions are:
1). Are any of you going through (or, have gone through) a similar decision process — either for the D850 or for another ‘new’ camera’. And, what did you do?
2). If any are doing the conversion process to DNG, how onerous is that? Does ACR work the same on DNG as it did directly in the RAW files? Seems to me that it’s a bit of a stop gap measure.
3) Lastly, if you changed to a new processing system, which one did you choose? My PP needs are currently met 70% by ACR. Do not do a lot of advanced layering, etc. However, I do use some plug ins like Nik. Plus, minor tools like erase, sizing, etc. I do not do sessions involving hundreds of images (like weddings) so cataloging and sorting is not a major item; Bridge has worked ok for me. As alternatives to PS, am thinking of Capture One. Any thoughts on that.
I really appreciate any feedback. This situation created by Adobe moving to subscription basis irritates me beyond words.
Thanks,
Bill
I’ve been using Photoshop/ACR for many years — pur... (show quote)

There is only ONE answer appropriate to your quest and it's DxO Optics Pro 11 Elite, PERIOD. They are the hallmark lens and camera testing and the modules for virtually any combination of them can be quickly downloaded for automatic corrections, like distortion, vignetting, and chromatic aberration. In addition to this their RAW engine is top shelf and two noise reduction modes. The Film Pack simulator and presets furnish quick reproduction to mimic many desired effects. Start here, as you'll end up here one way or another; in other words begin at the end. Ta da!

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Nov 6, 2017 19:20:18   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
papa wrote:
There is only ONE answer appropriate to your quest and it's DxO Optics Pro 11 Elite, PERIOD. They are the hallmark lens and camera testing and the modules for virtually any combination of them can be quickly downloaded for automatic corrections, like distortion, vignetting, and chromatic aberration. In addition to this their RAW engine is top shelf and two noise reduction modes. The Film Pack simulator and presets furnish quick reproduction to mimic many desired effects. Start here, as you'll end up here one way or another; in other words begin at the end. Ta da!
There is only ONE answer appropriate to your quest... (show quote)


How many programs have you mastered to the degree you can pick the best? What you learned by reading reviews doesn't count.

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Nov 6, 2017 19:36:09   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
My suggestion is to be sensible. Try using the DNG converter and see if there is a difference in how ACR reacts to that. If you find that ACR is completely, for your use, dissatisfactory, then start looking. But, I'm sure DNG will work just fine. If it does work out for you, I'd still keep my NEF files, as they will contain some information that DNG will discard.
--Bob
William Royer wrote:
I’ve been using Photoshop/ACR for many years — purchasing updates along the way. Now have PS CS6. Should soon be receiving new Nikon D850. As I understand, my alternatives are to go to the subscription basis for PS CC (which I absolutely do NOT want to do); to convert all the RAW files to DNG and continue to use CS6 (although it’s not clear to me whether ACR will work the same on those files); or, to change to a whole new PP system. So, my questions are:
1). Are any of you going through (or, have gone through) a similar decision process — either for the D850 or for another ‘new’ camera’. And, what did you do?
2). If any are doing the conversion process to DNG, how onerous is that? Does ACR work the same on DNG as it did directly in the RAW files? Seems to me that it’s a bit of a stop gap measure.
3) Lastly, if you changed to a new processing system, which one did you choose? My PP needs are currently met 70% by ACR. Do not do a lot of advanced layering, etc. However, I do use some plug ins like Nik. Plus, minor tools like erase, sizing, etc. I do not do sessions involving hundreds of images (like weddings) so cataloging and sorting is not a major item; Bridge has worked ok for me. As alternatives to PS, am thinking of Capture One. Any thoughts on that.
I really appreciate any feedback. This situation created by Adobe moving to subscription basis irritates me beyond words.
Thanks,
Bill
I’ve been using Photoshop/ACR for many years — pur... (show quote)

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Nov 6, 2017 19:52:51   #
papa Loc: Rio Dell, CA
 
Bill_de wrote:
How many programs have you mastered to the degree you can pick the best? What you learned by reading reviews doesn't count.

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Geez Bill, you really put up a better answer by your suggestion of what is superior to DxO Optics Pro 11 Elite. Thanks for your wisdom; NOT!!!

P.S. A Master is in all ways continuing to master. There's no destination but the grave. It's the journey that is to be enjoyed until then. So....

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Nov 6, 2017 20:14:54   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
papa wrote:
Geez Bill, you really put up a better answer by your suggestion of what is superior to DxO Optics Pro 11 Elite. Thanks for your wisdom; NOT!!!

P.S. A Master is in all ways continuing to master. There's no destination but the grave. It's the journey that is to be enjoyed until then. So....


I'll take that as not many. Thanks for your reply, it answers my question.

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Nov 7, 2017 00:11:57   #
Collie lover Loc: St. Louis, MO
 
William Royer wrote:
I’ve been using Photoshop/ACR for many years — purchasing updates along the way. Now have PS CS6. Should soon be receiving new Nikon D850. As I understand, my alternatives are to go to the subscription basis for PS CC (which I absolutely do NOT want to do); to convert all the RAW files to DNG and continue to use CS6 (although it’s not clear to me whether ACR will work the same on those files); or, to change to a whole new PP system. So, my questions are:
1). Are any of you going through (or, have gone through) a similar decision process — either for the D850 or for another ‘new’ camera’. And, what did you do?
2). If any are doing the conversion process to DNG, how onerous is that? Does ACR work the same on DNG as it did directly in the RAW files? Seems to me that it’s a bit of a stop gap measure.
3) Lastly, if you changed to a new processing system, which one did you choose? My PP needs are currently met 70% by ACR. Do not do a lot of advanced layering, etc. However, I do use some plug ins like Nik. Plus, minor tools like erase, sizing, etc. I do not do sessions involving hundreds of images (like weddings) so cataloging and sorting is not a major item; Bridge has worked ok for me. As alternatives to PS, am thinking of Capture One. Any thoughts on that.
I really appreciate any feedback. This situation created by Adobe moving to subscription basis irritates me beyond words.
Thanks,
Bill
I’ve been using Photoshop/ACR for many years — pur... (show quote)


Try the latest version of Corel PaintShop Pro.

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Nov 7, 2017 00:21:03   #
ewforbess Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Pgphoto wrote:
A very good alternative to photoshop is Affinity Photo. I have been using it since it came out and its rather inexpensive at 59 dollars.


I agree! The last time I launched it, I was informed that a new version had been launched. I really like AP, but haven't had a chance to see what was included in the newest version.

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Nov 7, 2017 08:43:11   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
ewforbess wrote:
I agree! The last time I launched it, I was informed that a new version had been launched. I really like AP, but haven't had a chance to see what was included in the newest version.


The update is a free download...

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Nov 7, 2017 08:52:03   #
Paulie Loc: NW IL
 
Pgphoto wrote:
A very good alternative to photoshop is Affinity Photo. I have been using it since it came out and its rather inexpensive at 59 dollars.


I've missed the $39 promo, got it weeks later for $49. With a Macbook (I believe Affinity was named a #1 photo app for Apple devices in 2015), not much experience with other software and cost in mind it seemed like a logical choice and I don't regret that decision at all. I like their tutorials on their youtube chanel - over 200 straight to the point short videos about pretty much anything you might want to do with it, narrated by the same person. I noticed that this app does not enjoy much popularity here on the hog, but for me it's great value for money.

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Nov 7, 2017 10:52:02   #
Tikva Loc: Waukesha, WI
 
Unlike many who post here, I went with the CC subscription. I have neither the time nor the inclination to learn a new product. I'm still working on learning PS. I still work full time even though I'm 74. I hope to work another year at least. Starting all over learning a new piece of software just isn't a good use of my time, which is worth the $10/mon. I know, that is just my personal opinion, but I read so many people with negative comments about Adobe and I like the fact that my software just gets updated whenever necessary and I am current. I shoot a Nikon D500 and by the time I got it, it was already supported in ACR.

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Nov 7, 2017 12:29:57   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Paulie wrote:
I've missed the $39 promo, got it weeks later for $49. With a Macbook (I believe Affinity was named a #1 photo app for Apple devices in 2015), not much experience with other software and cost in mind it seemed like a logical choice and I don't regret that decision at all. I like their tutorials on their youtube chanel - over 200 straight to the point short videos about pretty much anything you might want to do with it, narrated by the same person. I noticed that this app does not enjoy much popularity here on the hog, but for me it's great value for money.
I've missed the $39 promo, got it weeks later for... (show quote)


Affinity Photo is a fine application. I use the Adobe CC 2018 Photography Bundle, but I probably will add Affinity to that mix at some time. Some of its tools are easier to use or unique. And at $50 or less, it is a true bargain, especially for most enthusiasts.

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Nov 7, 2017 16:11:51   #
SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont
 
Tikva wrote:
Unlike many who post here, I went with the CC subscription. I have neither the time nor the inclination to learn a new product. I'm still working on learning PS. I still work full time even though I'm 74. I hope to work another year at least. Starting all over learning a new piece of software just isn't a good use of my time, which is worth the $10/mon. I know, that is just my personal opinion, but I read so many people with negative comments about Adobe and I like the fact that my software just gets updated whenever necessary and I am current. I shoot a Nikon D500 and by the time I got it, it was already supported in ACR.
Unlike many who post here, I went with the CC subs... (show quote)

My objective is to make the best photos I can, and every little bit helps. So I, too, am quite satisfied with the Adobe CC subscription. I went through a couple of other programs before getting LR, and when the subscription came out it was for me a gift because I also could use PS!. If they had not come out with the subscription, I believe that eventually I would have gotten a new stand-alone version of LR despite the cost. But I would never have been able to use PS at the price they were charging for it! Having both of them them updated without fuss is also important to me. In addition, learning to use all the different tools is something I enjoy!

A lot of people just do not need all the tools offered between LR and PS, so I can understand choosing to use something else. Keeping it simple and paying less [or nothing at all] helps those who are not interested in doing a lot of PP, but want to do some, without a huge expense of time and money. Subscribing to the Adobe CC system seems to be quite annoying to some, but I don't understand why they feel like they are being roped in and trapped by it! Any subscription can be cancelled, and it can be replaced with something else, so it is not really a life-long commitment!

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Nov 10, 2017 14:47:22   #
ewforbess Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
burkphoto wrote:
The update is a free download...


That's my favorite part! I downloaded it before I posted earlier -- just haven't gotten a chance to try out all the new toys...

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