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Jul 2, 2012 17:37:39   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
I get emails from Elements 10, and the editor said that in moving to NYC, her computer died. Fortunately, she had everything backed up onto a hard drive. Want to guess what happened when she tried to get the data from the hard drive? The drive was dead. She managed to get most of her data by using one of those services that salvages broken hard drives.

I use three external hard drives, and I think most members here have multiple backups. It just goes to show that even backing up your data isn't enough sometimes.

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Jul 2, 2012 18:14:08   #
RTR Loc: West Central Alabama
 
I use a network attached RAID 1 array. 2 drives get the same data. If one drive fails there is a redundant drive with the same data on it.

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Jul 2, 2012 18:33:31   #
normsImages Loc: Alabama for now
 
RTR wrote:
I use a network attached RAID 1 array. 2 drives get the same data. If one drive fails there is a redundant drive with the same data on it.


Thats all good but what if you have a fire or tornado. I do the same but also have another stored outside the home. The outside drive gets updated at least once a month more ofter if needed.

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Jul 2, 2012 18:42:40   #
oldmalky Loc: West Midlands,England.
 
As so many on the hogg seem to worry about their data why not use cloud it must be better than storing on several devices.

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Jul 2, 2012 19:44:15   #
steve40 Loc: Asheville/Canton, NC, USA
 
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Thats all good but what if you have a fire or tornado.


Well in that case, you may need more than an outside the home data backup. :lol:

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Jul 2, 2012 20:43:04   #
Lupine Loc: SF Bay Area
 
oldmalky wrote:
As so many on the hogg seem to worry about their data why not use cloud it must be better than storing on several devices.


How often do you hear about sites being hacked and personal info being compromised? Cloud sites are not immune and as the cloud grows, so will it's desirability as a target for malicious hackers.

My PC has a SSD boot/program drive and a 2 HDD RAID 1 data drive config. The system is regularly backed-up to an NAS drive that is stored in a fire safe between back-ups. If I were a professional I'd invest in a safe deposit box or some other secure off-site storage, but I'm a not-very-good amateur, so it's not worth the cost and effort for me right now.

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Jul 2, 2012 21:08:06   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
steve40 wrote:
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Thats all good but what if you have a fire or tornado.


Well in that case, you may need more than an outside the home data backup. :lol:

You're thinking underground, right?

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Jul 2, 2012 21:09:55   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
oldmalky wrote:
As so many on the hogg seem to worry about their data why not use cloud it must be better than storing on several devices.

That's an alternative, but what happens when your cloud suddenly "dissipates"?

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Jul 2, 2012 21:27:59   #
tramsey Loc: Texas
 
I've had all kinds of problems with backing up my stuff. Several years ago my house was hit by lighting, fried everything that was plugged into an outlet. Thanks to insurance it was all replaced except my data, my back up hard drive was fried to. So I went on with out it and made new pictures etc. Then burglars found my house and everything that was electronic was stolen. Thanks again to insurance it was replaced. Then I heard about Carbonite, storage in the clouds. At first it slowed my computer way down but now it has been up dated and I don't even know it's there, backs up automatically. IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF STUFF TO BACK UP THE FIRST BACK UP WILL TAKE A LONG TIME. I'M TALKING DAYS AND NIGHTS. But now I have no problems. It costs $55.00 a year for unlimited storage.
A good friend of mine who has a thriving business uses it and swears by it. It's good stuff.

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Jul 2, 2012 21:51:30   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
oldmalky wrote:
As so many on the hogg seem to worry about their data why not use cloud it must be better than storing on several devices.


Because it would take weeks to upload everything! :-)

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Jul 3, 2012 05:26:55   #
bull drink water Loc: pontiac mi.
 
tramsey wrote:
I've had all kinds of problems with backing up my stuff. Several years ago my house was hit by lighting, fried everything that was plugged into an outlet. Thanks to insurance it was all replaced except my data, my back up hard drive was fried to. So I went on with out it and made new pictures etc. Then burglars found my house and everything that was electronic was stolen. Thanks again to insurance it was replaced. Then I heard about Carbonite, storage in the clouds. At first it slowed my computer way down but now it has been up dated and I don't even know it's there, backs up automatically. IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF STUFF TO BACK UP THE FIRST BACK UP WILL TAKE A LONG TIME. I'M TALKING DAYS AND NIGHTS. But now I have no problems. It costs $55.00 a year for unlimited storage.
A good friend of mine who has a thriving business uses it and swears by it. It's good stuff.
I've had all kinds of problems with backing up my ... (show quote)


i wonder if they'll be here 10 yrs from now,if i'll be here.an external drive is enough for me.

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Jul 3, 2012 05:42:38   #
steveo52 Loc: Rhode Island and Ocala Florida
 
tramsey wrote:
I. Then I heard about Carbonite, storage in the clouds. At first it slowed my computer way down but now it has been up dated and I don't even know it's there, backs up automatically. IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF STUFF TO BACK UP THE FIRST BACK UP WILL TAKE A LONG TIME. I'M TALKING DAYS AND NIGHTS. But now I have no problems. It costs $55.00 a year for unlimited storage.
A good friend of mine who has a thriving business uses it and swears by it. It's good stuff.


Ditto to Carbonite!

A simple rule I’ve learnt over time, with backups is the "321" method

3 Backup copies of anything you want to keep.
2 different storage media.
1 offsite storage site.

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Jul 3, 2012 07:09:55   #
crazyformickey Loc: Edgewater Park, NJ
 
I back up on two DVD's, both of which I store off site. I also back them up on two external hard drives.

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Jul 3, 2012 07:38:01   #
BboH Loc: s of 2/21, Ellicott City, MD
 
Another method is using fire proof chests to store the redundant out-of-socket drive. May save from theft because of wight and will save from fire

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Jul 3, 2012 07:40:24   #
RPbySC Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
What about M-Disk? I read about them somewhere on this forum and looked them up. They seem indestructible, cheap, and easy to store in a safe deposit box. Each disk holds 4.7GB, though. How many mostly RAW photos would each hold then?
Anyone have any experience with them?
I use Time Machine and a hard drive on my MAC, but actually lost some pictures on it once.

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