Artistic vision versus GAS
Oct 31, 2017 06:09:32 #
gvarner wrote:
It seems to me that the focus on capturing great photos is mostly on using great gear rather than having great artistic vision. For me, it's the vision. Without artistic vision, the gear matters little. Admittedly, I don't have great artistic vision but I do take a nice snapshot every once in a while that pleases me and others. My gear is adequate for my needs.
Funny, but I see it the opposite way. Get the good shot. When better gear comes along, people are tempted to buy it because it offers improvements that would make picture-taking easier or give better results.
Oct 31, 2017 06:26:30 #
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gvarner wrote:
It seems to me that the focus on capturing great photos is mostly on using great gear rather than having great artistic vision. For me, it's the vision. Without artistic vision, the gear matters little. Admittedly, I don't have great artistic vision but I do take a nice snapshot every once in a while that pleases me and others. My gear is adequate for my needs.
Goodie for you.
Oct 31, 2017 08:32:49 #
We have seen posts very often in this forum, usually from beginners, who want to know which camera or lens they should be upgrading to. We should upgrade if we want to burn money because we want a camera or lens or if the camera we are using is not up to the job and lacks features we need in our photography.
Artistic vision along with good photographic knowledge is what produces great shots. We all know that a good camera with a professional lens makes the job easier but the best camera and the most sophisticated lens mean nothing in the hands of those who lack photographic knowledge and vision.
Artistic vision along with good photographic knowledge is what produces great shots. We all know that a good camera with a professional lens makes the job easier but the best camera and the most sophisticated lens mean nothing in the hands of those who lack photographic knowledge and vision.
Oct 31, 2017 09:26:25 #
SharpShooter wrote:
Pro basketball centers don't stand around and ask each other how HIGH they can jump, it's a given, they can ALL jump high!!! LoL
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It’s more complicated than that - perhaps at the pro level, but certainly at lower levels. My high school’s team had two stars. Each was 5’11”. One of them learned to do the job completely; the other could dunk from a standing position. The first one became a starter at UCLA; the second was killed trying to out-run a police bullet during a burglary.
Oct 31, 2017 12:47:18 #
gvarner wrote:
It seems to me that the focus on capturing great photos is mostly on using great gear rather than having great artistic vision. For me, it's the vision. Without artistic vision, the gear matters little. Admittedly, I don't have great artistic vision but I do take a nice snapshot every once in a while that pleases me and others. My gear is adequate for my needs.
Good for you, but people that use "great" gear, still try to realize their "artistic" vision!Oct 31, 2017 13:00:25 #
dsmeltz wrote:
The skill of an artist is not simply vision, but knowing which tools to use to bring the vision to life. And a professional knows how to fill their toolbox so they are equipped to do so.
This was well spoken.
The vision dictates the gear that will be required to achieve it.
My current vision is for Japenese Bokeh work which required obtaining additional, different, specific, lenses and a certain camera that differed from sports shooting or Portrait work.
The type of work or desired results determines the fear to be obtained and used.
Oct 31, 2017 16:24:40 #
glyphtrix wrote:
This was well spoken.
The vision dictates the gear that will be required to achieve it.
My current vision is for Japenese Bokeh work which required obtaining additional, different, specific, lenses and a certain camera that differed from sports shooting or Portrait work.
The type of work or desired results determines the fear to be obtained and used.
The vision dictates the gear that will be required to achieve it.
My current vision is for Japenese Bokeh work which required obtaining additional, different, specific, lenses and a certain camera that differed from sports shooting or Portrait work.
The type of work or desired results determines the fear to be obtained and used.
Exactly. I’m thinking in terms of replacing my currrent K-30 by a KP, which is said to have exactly what I need now - much more graceful handling of high ISO settings
Oct 31, 2017 18:20:05 #
Super gear does not dictate super results.
Exceptional creative vision does not necessarily produce exceptional images.
The superbly creative individual may have an image. If he not capable of operating a camera, which does require some minimum level of comprehension about how the camera captures an image, he will be incapable of realizing his vision.
It matters little if his camera is simple and mostly automatic or a complex high end camera. The exceptional product doesn't require exceptional vision and skill but rather an adequate amount of each to be successful..
Exceptional creative vision does not necessarily produce exceptional images.
The superbly creative individual may have an image. If he not capable of operating a camera, which does require some minimum level of comprehension about how the camera captures an image, he will be incapable of realizing his vision.
It matters little if his camera is simple and mostly automatic or a complex high end camera. The exceptional product doesn't require exceptional vision and skill but rather an adequate amount of each to be successful..
Oct 31, 2017 20:37:30 #
gvarner wrote:
It seems to me that the focus on capturing great photos is mostly on using great gear rather than having great artistic vision. For me, it's the vision. Without artistic vision, the gear matters little. Admittedly, I don't have great artistic vision but I do take a nice snapshot every once in a while that pleases me and others. My gear is adequate for my needs.
Really! How many of us are artists? How may of us can take real advantage of the expensive stuff we already have? I just want to have fun, and make a record of the things I have enjoyed seeing and preserve those memories. And some of them turned out to be rather nice photos!
Oct 31, 2017 21:05:08 #
rehess wrote:
It’s more complicated than that - perhaps at the pro level, but certainly at lower levels. My high school’s team had two stars. Each was 5’11”. One of them learned to do the job completely; the other could dunk from a standing position. The first one became a starter at UCLA; the second was killed trying to out-run a police bullet during a burglary.
Obviously, how high you can jump is NO indication of how FAST you can run!!!
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Nov 1, 2017 11:56:55 #
Nov 1, 2017 12:48:50 #
Charlie157 wrote:
Could someone define " artistic vision "
That's easy!
Artistic vision is the conceptual thoughtwork,ideas, of what you want your images to be or look like. BEFORE YOU EVEN BEGIN TO START SHOOTING!!
It defines the style, equipment and techniques that you must use in order to create the work or photos the way you want them to turn out.
It is the art side..the creative side of the process of making anything.
A dancer can decide how and what they look like when they dance or a painter can choose ,in advance , what style of painting to make or a carpenter can decide ,before doing the work , how a staircase, patio deck or house will be like.
You have to know what you hope to accomplish Before you start to do it .
It's like Hollywood making a movie: they have to pick , choose, dream up , decide in advance , what type of movie they want to make.
They don't just get a bunch of movie cameras and any bunch actors together and just take pictures hoping that, somehow, they will end up with some kind of nice movie.
Same thing with photography. You have to decide what kind of images you want to have when your done with the work.
You can't just go out and by random cameras and lenses and lighting and accesories without knowing what types of pictures you desire to create. You have to plan it out BEFORE you begin. Because otherwise you might not even obtain the types of equipment that you would even need.
Once you know WHAT you want to create.. then it's up to the skills and knowledge that you have
And the types of camera and equipment that you will need to do it.
Nov 1, 2017 13:48:12 #
glyphtrix wrote:
That's easy! br Artistic vision is the conceptual ... (show quote)
Really? Photography is about capturing a moment. An expression. A moment when the light struck just so and will never again. When the animal turned its head. Planning? Creativity? Photography is not authorship so much as journalism! You are capturing and presenting a bit of the real world, not creating anything. Get over yourselves!
Nov 1, 2017 13:50:20 #
CatMarley wrote:
<snip> Photography is about capturing a moment. <snip>
That would be the sub-field called photojournalism. It is not all of photography. Not even close.
Nov 1, 2017 13:53:12 #
dsmeltz wrote:
That would be the sub-field called photojournalism. It is not all of photography. Not even close.
And that reply indicates you do not understand what I said at all. Oh well, I tried!
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