Emjem wrote:
Bring the subjects forward away from the background. Watch out for disembodied hands. On the shoulder in the first photo and on the waist in the second.
In the group photo there is a disconnect between the man and the group of three. Perhaps it would be improved with the young girl alongside the old man and the two others behind. Just a thought.
Keep practising and criticise your work brutally. This is how you continue to improve.
All wonderful advice! Thank you....but, do you REALLY want me to tell my dad that you called him an Old Man? :)
:-)
Chinaman wrote:
For their photo albums, just print them out for them. They look at themselves and decide whether they like their own poses and features or not. Their memories of that family moment overide the quality of the picture.
For your personal developement, do what the other posters have suggested.
I agree, Chinaman.
THEY like the pic, but they aren't looking at it the way that we do.
To all....thank you so much for all the suggestions and advice. This is why we are here and why I post....to find ways to improve.
I really can't thank you enough...now, I just have to try to Remember everything, next time!
RMM wrote:
I would be inclined to compose the shot with some extra space around the subjects with the intention of cropping. There are those here who will differ, saying you should get everything right before taking the shot. I don't like to spend a lot of time setting up people shots because the people get itchy and self-conscious, and you end up with an obviously posed shot. I'd rather shoot several shots and throw out the ones with the eyes closed and the goofy expressions. My daughter accuses me of always catching her with a goofy expression. All too often, she's right, but that's what blackmail is all about.
In a formal portrait type of shot, it's a different story, and you have to evolve your own techniques for getting people to express themselves, whether you're looking for a smile, or a reflection of someone's personality.
One other suggestion that gets made is to take several photos, and to switch between landscape and portrait orientation. Sometimes, when you look at your shots, you'll see that what you thought would work best initially wasn't actually the most effective way to compose.
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Geat response to the question. I would also suggest using Av mode and open up the F stop to blur the background.
Understand that the eye goes to the brightest part of the picture first. People were too close to the background and a long lens (telephoto) is always best for portraits. The use of a reflector for the faces would have brought out the faces and darkened the background considerably. I won't mention the house in the background. The green leaves were nice but get the people away farther so the leaves are not prominent and out of focus.
To blur the background in your photographs, set your camera to Aperture Priority (Av). The effect blurring the background
is created by the lens, (Depth of Field) in photography it is refereed to as The Boken. Use an aperture of say f5.6/f4. Telephoto lenses have a greater Boken. Experiment in Aperture Priority to see how the aperture can affect differing backgrounds, you will soon get the hang of it.
What I see is new photographers sometime try to crop with their cameras. While this is not a bad consideration, Awesome pictures are always tweaked in post production. I tell my students to try and remember to keep a little room around your subject when framing the shoot. This is because, if you crop (in the camera) too much you can not crop later. Nice pictures.... Good job!!
Would it be OK if I worked with the first photo some?
oops - the question was directed to the original poster/ first picture
I find it unsettling that everyone seems to subscribe to the religion that if a person is in the photo the background has to be blurred. My preferred style was always complete depth of field, like Ansel Adams, even if people are in the shot, and I defend my position that this is a valid style. I came to realize I was stifling my creativity by not having the blurred background in my arsenal, and have sought to master it. But I still am disturbed by the "Blurred Background Religion"
The main problem with these photo portraits is the poor lighting on the face, not the background.
There are a few points of interest I have discovered as a photographer. 1) Your family and friends are your worst critics! Why? Because they love every photo you show them. They don't get it. 2) I have never shown a photo to a pro that did not find something wrong with my work. 3) You are a whole lot better then you think.. smile
RMM
Loc: Suburban New York
georgevedwards wrote:
I find it unsettling that everyone seems to subscribe to the religion that if a person is in the photo the background has to be blurred. My preferred style was always complete depth of field, like Ansel Adams, even if people are in the shot, and I defend my position that this is a valid style. I came to realize I was stifling my creativity by not having the blurred background in my arsenal, and have sought to master it. But I still am disturbed by the "Blurred Background Religion"
The main problem with these photo portraits is the poor lighting on the face, not the background.
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"Religion" might be going a bit far, but you do make a fair point.
With the original poster's permission, I'd like to replace the background of the first picture with one that is blurred. He may like the edit or he may hate it .... but at least he can make a direct comparison and decide for himself.
My own opinion is ... yes ... the background is too busy and the great character of the subjects is being lost.
Both of these photos will become more appreciated by your family as the years pass by. They'll become family treasures, even more than they are now.
Leicaflex wrote:
To The effect blurring the background
is created by the lens, (Depth of Field) in photography it is refereed to as The Boken.
Depth of field is often wrongly referred to as Bokeh.
http://mansurovs.com/what-is-bokeh
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