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105/1.8 versus 70-200/2.8
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Oct 17, 2017 07:12:43   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
Apaflo wrote:
... Another "End of conversation" point!

Maybe you need to review your own "portrait" history.

Your most common lens for snapshots of single people seems to be 24-120 and you hardly ever go over 105 mm unless you are standing far from the subject. Your other shots with that lens range from 28 to 90 mm. The only one I found with a 70-200 was at 70 mm.

The only decent portraits I see with good bokeh were with an 85 mm prime lens back in 2010.

So, as usual, you don't practice what you preach.

Now that's a good place to end this conversation.

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Oct 17, 2017 07:42:27   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
zacksoccer wrote:
I am doing a series of headshots for friend. Which of these lenses would you recommend that I use? Will be outside so light is not an obstacle requiring a faster lens. Using a Nikon D750. Thanks

For what you are doing, it doesn't matter. Personally, I like to take portraits with the 70-200 cause it gives me more options, I generally like to shoot portraits at 200 mm and f4. Love to mess with the background. I strongly suggest FULL shade cause the light on the subject will be soft and inviting. Your background should also be in full shade. Good luck and keep on shooting until the end.

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Oct 17, 2017 08:02:54   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
zacksoccer wrote:
I am doing a series of headshots for friend. Which of these lenses would you recommend that I use? Will be outside so light is not an obstacle requiring a faster lens. Using a Nikon D750. Thanks


Which Nikon 105mm 1.8 are you using--is it a manual lens?
There is a 105mm 1.4 and a 105mm 2.8 AF.
The 70-200 is great for portraits; so is the 105mm 1.4 and the 85mm 1.4.
All will do what you want.

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Oct 17, 2017 08:43:03   #
Bultaco Loc: Aiken, SC
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Which Nikon 105mm 1.8 are you using--is it a manual lens?
There is a 105mm 1.4 and a 105mm 2.8 AF.
The 70-200 is great for portraits; so is the 105mm 1.4 and the 85mm 1.4.
All will do what you want.


All are great lens, my first consideration would be which would be best for furture use.

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Oct 17, 2017 09:08:54   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
The classic photo portrait artists/masters of the past used PRIMES and did really WELL ! - by most standards - and of course, they knew what they were doing.

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Oct 17, 2017 09:09:25   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Which Nikon 105mm 1.8 are you using--is it a manual lens?
There is a 105mm 1.4 and a 105mm 2.8 AF.
The 70-200 is great for portraits; so is the 105mm 1.4 and the 85mm 1.4.
All will do what you want.

The nice thing about the prime lenses is that they can have a wide maximum aperture. That makes them easy to focus and has the potential for nice bokeh if there are enough aperture blades.

The problem with zooms is the opposite - usually smaller maximum aperture which makes them harder to focus. They are also bigger, heavier and more expensive.

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Oct 17, 2017 09:44:30   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Apaflo wrote:
She does not shoot people pictures with her 100mm f/2,8 macro lens. Your initial claim that she only uses fixed focal length lenses is clearly false.

Another "End of conversation" point!


I’m only telling you what she says when people ask her what particular lens was used when she starts a thread which is pretty much always.

For example, ever since I have seen her work, she has been using a Mark3 5D. So if someone asked, I’d say Canon 5D Mark 3, but the only way to find out that she has picked up a Mark 4 is to check her “what’s in my bag” page. Who cares. And so what is she had started out with a zoom? You should read what she thinks of her earlier work. Everybody starts out somewhere and improves over time, (not you unfortunately) whether it is because of skills or gear. But to say that she uses prime lenses only, is 100% correct. If I said she has ALWAYS used primes would be incorrect. You are again trying to sound like an expert, but all you are doing is nitpicking. Is it not true, that you had no idea she had existed until I posted her site link? To which you replied? Her work would not sell or would be not liked in Barrow! Really? First of all, how would you know that? Wouldn’t that idiotic statement be a real end of discussion point be?

She is as good as they come, including post processing. I couldn’t imagine anyone would go to you or anyone else to hire if she was living in Barrow. Now that is a true statement.

And please try not to derail yet another thread. This has nothing to do what the OP was asking about.

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Oct 17, 2017 15:52:15   #
jackm1943 Loc: Omaha, Nebraska
 
Apaflo wrote:
Assuming the 70-200mm is one of the Nikkor lenses, the versatility of the zoom far out weighs any fixed focal length. Other zooms may be just as good too, but I can only vouch for the bokeh of the Nikkor lenses.

The point is that subject to camera distance determines the perspective. That can be chosen without even looking through the viewfinder. Once camera to subject distance has been selected, and only then, the focal length is selected to properly frame the image.

The concept of "zoom with your feet" is a false myth, and should be avoided for best results. A fixed focal length portrait lens is appropriate in a studio where the distance and focal length have been predetermined and will not be changed.
Assuming the 70-200mm is one of the Nikkor lenses,... (show quote)


I agree 100% with everything you stated above, and it applies to virtually all photography, not just portraiture.

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Oct 17, 2017 18:56:30   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
zacksoccer wrote:
I am doing a series of headshots for friend. Which of these lenses would you recommend that I use? Will be outside so light is not an obstacle requiring a faster lens. Using a Nikon D750. Thanks


The 105 has a wider maximum aperture. If you like that "background completely out of focus" look, you can use that lens wide open and get slightly better bokeh. The prime is also sharper than the zoom, not necessarily a good thing for portraits!

The zoom requires less movement on your part. But if someone has an odd-shaped nose or facial bone structure, you can move yourself forward or backward to maintain the same composition while changing the depth compression effect of magnification.

I would choose whichever lens fits most of what I want to do, and start with it. It's really a question of style and working habits. Both are great lenses.

The most used portrait focal lengths on full frame cameras are 1.5 to 2.5 times the normal focal length (between 75 and 125mm). My favorite Nikon primes are the 85 and 105. When someone has a big nose, the 70-200 used at 150 to 180 can help foreshorten it a bit.

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Oct 17, 2017 21:33:48   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
Hard choice. The new 105 is great. I'd probably use the 70-200 f/2.8 FL.

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