Chris T
Loc: from England across the pond to New England
Is the flip screen - finally here to stay? ... What about the integrated touch screen inherent in that design philosophy?
It's a real bonus, is it not? ... Why are so many camera designers, taking so long to catch up?
ChrisT wrote:
Is the flip screen - finally here to stay? ... What about the integrated touch screen inherent in that design philosophy?
It's a real bonus, is it not? ... Why are so many camera designers, taking so long to catch up?
I doubt the pro cameras will EVER catch up!
Under rigerous use flip-outs break off!!! LoL
Plus, there's the weather sealing problem all over again, like with the pop-up flashes!
SS
ChrisT wrote:
Is the flip screen - finally here to stay? ... What about the integrated touch screen inherent in that design philosophy?
It's a real bonus, is it not? ... Why are so many camera designers, taking so long to catch up?
It's a convenience - no more kneeling down in mud or climbing a ladder.
Any time a manufacturer - of anything - decides to redesign, the money starts flowing out, and that's not what they want. They first decide how much the flip screen will cost to design and manufacture and how much money they will make or lose, depending on whether they add that feature or not. Given a choice, I'd go with the movable screen, but a touch screen doesn't interest me. My fingers are rather large compared with that tiny LCD.
I have a Nikon D5600 and the flip/touch screen is:
Flip, useful sometimes - for a selfie, producing videos (though a monitor would seem necessary)
Touch - awkward. Bright daylight it's difficult to see, it is good for all those settings you want at your fingertips. Reviewing pics, not so much - unless you zoom, you can't tell if it was a good focus shot.
I hope there is a better technology on the way. If the screen were as good as my cell phone - it would be nice, but how about a bluetooth connectivity to my cell phone screen that would let me change iso, af-c or s, and review my pics with quality. Nikon is way behind on wireless connectivity-Snapbridge stinks.
The adaptation of touch screen technology—originated by iPhone 10 years ago, to camera LCDs, has been too long in coming. There are some functions that some camera manufacturers have included in their brands that enhance and simplify the photography experience. One example worthy of mention is the touch screen auto focus and shutter release function with a single tap of the screen on the Leica Q. Another is the Nikon menu option selection feature by touch screen. Canon’s Rebel T6 is also great. Of course, if one wants a total touch screen experience with a remarkable camera, then there’s the iPhone 7+, and now the 8, 8+ and soon the X. But that’s a whole different discussion. The point is that touch screen technology has affected so many areas of daily life. It seems that the camera industry has just been a bit slower in fully adapting the camera to its conveniences. That said, rotating dials and flipping switches still have their own unique benefits and advantages that screen tapping doesn’t offer, yet.
Flip out screens are also a great step forward. My favorite is the Lumix G85–fully articulating, swings in and out, twists 360 degrees etc. etc.
No more crouching down or climbing up high, which mimimizes the missed opportunities. And even with the screen, the camera purports to be weatherproof.
The problem as I see it is, that sometimes cameras are being marketed for their glitzy technology, which oft’times has little, if anything, to do with the fundamentals of the art or craft of the photographer. Seems like the ongoing, rapid release of new camera models, is just the manufacturers’ effort to invent and re-invent the better proverbial mouse trap. It certainly helps to boost consumer sales especially in the holiday season. Caveat Emptor. (Buyer beware).
jonjacobik wrote:
I have a Nikon D5600 and the flip/touch screen is:
Flip, useful sometimes - for a selfie, producing videos (though a monitor would seem necessary)
Touch - awkward. Bright daylight it's difficult to see, it is good for all those settings you want at your fingertips. Reviewing pics, not so much - unless you zoom, you can't tell if it was a good focus shot.
I hope there is a better technology on the way. If the screen were as good as my cell phone - it would be nice, but how about a bluetooth connectivity to my cell phone screen that would let me change iso, af-c or s, and review my pics with quality. Nikon is way behind on wireless connectivity-Snapbridge stinks.
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Agree on the WiFi comment, which in my opinion is way more useful than flip screens and touch screens. The Nikon WiFi "technology" is pathetic.
joer
Loc: Colorado/Illinois
jonjacobik wrote:
I have a Nikon D5600 and the flip/touch screen is:
Flip, useful sometimes - for a selfie, producing videos (though a monitor would seem necessary)
Touch - awkward. Bright daylight it's difficult to see, it is good for all those settings you want at your fingertips. Reviewing pics, not so much - unless you zoom, you can't tell if it was a good focus shot.
I hope there is a better technology on the way. If the screen were as good as my cell phone - it would be nice, but how about a bluetooth connectivity to my cell phone screen that would let me change iso, af-c or s, and review my pics with quality. Nikon is way behind on wireless connectivity-Snapbridge stinks.
I have a Nikon D5600 and the flip/touch screen is:... (
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I like the flip and touch screen on my D500 although outdoors in bright sun its useless. My Galaxy 7 smart phone screen is better but also useless in sun. It seems no one has figured out how to solve this issue.
ChrisT wrote:
Is the flip screen - finally here to stay? ... What about the integrated touch screen inherent in that design philosophy?
It's a real bonus, is it not? ... Why are so many camera designers, taking so long to catch up?
I am waiting for separate screen from the body.
joer
Loc: Colorado/Illinois
BJW wrote:
The adaptation of touch screen technology—originated by iPhone 10 years ago, to camera LCDs, has been too long in coming. There are some functions that some camera manufacturers have included in their brands that enhance and simplify the photography experience. One example worthy of mention is the touch screen auto focus and shutter release function with a single tap of the screen on the Leica Q. Another is the Nikon menu option selection feature by touch screen. Canon’s Rebel T6 is also great. Of course, if one wants a total touch screen experience with a remarkable camera, then there’s the iPhone 7+, and now the 8, 8+ and soon the X. But that’s a whole different discussion. The point is that touch screen technology has affected so many areas of daily life. It seems that the camera industry has just been a bit slower in fully adapting the camera to its conveniences. That said, rotating dials and flipping switches still have their own unique benefits and advantages that screen tapping doesn’t offer, yet.
Flip out screens are also a great step forward. My favorite is the Lumix G85–fully articulating, swings in and out, twists 360 degrees etc. etc.
No more crouching down or climbing up high, which mimimizes the missed opportunities. And even with the screen, the camera purports to be weatherproof.
The problem as I see it is, that sometimes cameras are being marketed for their glitzy technology, which oft’times has little, if anything, to do with the fundamentals of the art or craft of the photographer. Seems like the ongoing, rapid release of new camera models, is just the manufacturers’ effort to invent and re-invent the better proverbial mouse trap. It certainly helps to boost consumer sales especially in the holiday season. Caveat Emptor. (Buyer beware).
The adaptation of touch screen technology—originat... (
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I believe HP had a touch screen monitor many years before the iPhone existed. It had vertical and horizontal sensors built into the bezel of the frame that read the touch location. As I recall it didn't work well.
Chris T
Loc: from England across the pond to New England
jerryc41 wrote:
It's a convenience - no more kneeling down in mud or climbing a ladder.
Any time a manufacturer - of anything - decides to redesign, the money starts flowing out, and that's not what they want. They first decide how much the flip screen will cost to design and manufacture and how much money they will make or lose, depending on whether they add that feature or not. Given a choice, I'd go with the movable screen, but a touch screen doesn't interest me. My fingers are rather large compared with that tiny LCD.
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Ah, but, Jerry - the Nikon version, at least - employed first on the D5300, and the later D5500 / D5600 - use the 3.2" screen !!!!!
Chris T
Loc: from England across the pond to New England
jonjacobik wrote:
I have a Nikon D5600 and the flip/touch screen is:
Flip, useful sometimes - for a selfie, producing videos (though a monitor would seem necessary)
Touch - awkward. Bright daylight it's difficult to see, it is good for all those settings you want at your fingertips. Reviewing pics, not so much - unless you zoom, you can't tell if it was a good focus shot.
I hope there is a better technology on the way. If the screen were as good as my cell phone - it would be nice, but how about a bluetooth connectivity to my cell phone screen that would let me change iso, af-c or s, and review my pics with quality. Nikon is way behind on wireless connectivity-Snapbridge stinks.
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Oh, I agree with you, there, Jon ... Snapbridge is for the birds ... which is why I gave it to my little Cardinal in the back garden!
Chris T
Loc: from England across the pond to New England
BebuLamar wrote:
I am waiting for separate screen from the body.
You can do that, NOW, actually, Bebu ....
Any camera which has an HDMI connector - will allow that ....
Check behind all your black rubber flaps ... it's there, on most designs ....
You might need a mini-HDMI to full HDMI adaptor, though ...
But, still ....
Chris T
Loc: from England across the pond to New England
joer wrote:
I like the flip and touch screen on my D500 although outdoors in bright sun its useless. My Galaxy 7 smart phone screen is better but also useless in sun. It seems no one has figured out how to solve this issue.
Did you try turning up the brightness, Joer?
Chris T
Loc: from England across the pond to New England
BJW wrote:
The adaptation of touch screen technology—originated by iPhone 10 years ago, to camera LCDs, has been too long in coming. There are some functions that some camera manufacturers have included in their brands that enhance and simplify the photography experience. One example worthy of mention is the touch screen auto focus and shutter release function with a single tap of the screen on the Leica Q. Another is the Nikon menu option selection feature by touch screen. Canon’s Rebel T6 is also great. Of course, if one wants a total touch screen experience with a remarkable camera, then there’s the iPhone 7+, and now the 8, 8+ and soon the X. But that’s a whole different discussion. The point is that touch screen technology has affected so many areas of daily life. It seems that the camera industry has just been a bit slower in fully adapting the camera to its conveniences. That said, rotating dials and flipping switches still have their own unique benefits and advantages that screen tapping doesn’t offer, yet.
Flip out screens are also a great step forward. My favorite is the Lumix G85–fully articulating, swings in and out, twists 360 degrees etc. etc.
No more crouching down or climbing up high, which mimimizes the missed opportunities. And even with the screen, the camera purports to be weatherproof.
The problem as I see it is, that sometimes cameras are being marketed for their glitzy technology, which oft’times has little, if anything, to do with the fundamentals of the art or craft of the photographer. Seems like the ongoing, rapid release of new camera models, is just the manufacturers’ effort to invent and re-invent the better proverbial mouse trap. It certainly helps to boost consumer sales especially in the holiday season. Caveat Emptor. (Buyer beware).
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BJ ... 360 degree twist is an admirable feat, but virtually impossible with any camera design, because they're all hinged ....
However, the feature of flip touch screens has taken a long time for makers like Nikon to catch up with Canon ... if they're even there, yet ... and although both Sony and Pentax have adopted flip ... neither have yet added touch ... but, who knows what the new year will bring ....
terry44
Loc: Tuolumne County California, Maui Hawaii
Flip screen is good but as sharpshooter states they do break with heavy and rough use many pros put their cameras through the ringer and these cameras need to be built tough to take it I believe that there is a reason the manufacturers put flip screens and touch screens on lower end cameras and are holding back on placing them on pro cameras, the consumer models are cheaper to buy and aimed at the regular buyer, whereas pros
don't care so much for these mostly cosmetic (I know they have function also) additions. As far as touch screen I have no interest in one, menu buttons and dials are just fine.
ChrisT wrote:
Is the flip screen - finally here to stay? ... What about the integrated touch screen inherent in that design philosophy?
It's a real bonus, is it not? ... Why are so many camera designers, taking so long to catch up?
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