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Oct 7, 2017 15:49:08   #
shuck Loc: Shucktown, Mississippi
 
Love street, or candid photography. Trying to learn. Where could I improve here, other than shutter speed and wearing a helmet? Let me have it. I can take it. Love UHH.



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Oct 7, 2017 15:53:37   #
shuck Loc: Shucktown, Mississippi
 
Please forgive the imposition. The critique section seems to not have a lot of traffic.

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Oct 7, 2017 15:54:42   #
bettis1 Loc: Texas
 
I've always found them to use the middle finger...guess it's different in Mississippi...

Bob

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Oct 7, 2017 15:58:20   #
jbmauser Loc: Roanoke, VA
 
Ha! I have a similar photo the guy has this look on his face and you can read his mind! What the ........

Keep practicing and use a tele so you can stay way clear....

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Oct 7, 2017 16:01:19   #
Acufine3200 Loc: Texarkana USA
 
I’d like to see a few tries in B&W...may possibly gain some tone separation between the finger and face. Intriguing shot. Burn the edges a bit. The frowning, wrinkled faces scream for a slightly grainy effect. Oh yeah...make sure that helmet has a facemask, lol.

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Oct 7, 2017 16:10:27   #
shuck Loc: Shucktown, Mississippi
 
Acufine3200 wrote:
I’d like to see a few tries in B&W...may possibly gain some tone separation between the finger and face. Intriguing shot. Burn the edges a bit. The frowning, wrinkled faces scream for a slightly grainy effect. Oh yeah...make sure that helmet has a facemask, lol.


Thanks. I'll play with it some more. My photoshop essentials knowledge is limited. I expect to get lightroom soon and spend a little time learning it.

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Oct 7, 2017 16:12:49   #
John Lewin
 
slight step to the left would have improved composition.

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Oct 7, 2017 16:34:01   #
rjaywallace Loc: Wisconsin
 
shuck wrote:
Thanks. I'll play with it some more. My photoshop essentials knowledge is limited. I expect to get lightroom soon and spend a little time learning it.

I tried it in b&w, toned and sepia - nothing seemed to give much separation. The moving finger seems to belong to the person in the reddish top and it is ‘in the face’ of someone opposite her that we can’t quite see. Doubt seriously that they are conversing about recipes tho. A discussion over rights to a parking space perhaps? The moving finger writes and having writ moves on.

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Oct 7, 2017 17:01:39   #
CO
 
One problem is that we don't really know who the main subject is. The photo is really about the women who is waving her finger. The other women has an intense look and is in better focus. There's a battle there for the attention of the viewer. The window area is overexposed. There might be some blooming going on as the window light is actually cutting into the frowning women's hair. There's too much motion blur to separate the finger. The finger also has about the same tone as the frowning women's face.

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Oct 7, 2017 17:58:08   #
Acufine3200 Loc: Texarkana USA
 
I’m stuck in a hotel with only my iPad, so I don’t have full PS capabilities at my fingertips. This is as close as I can get. If I had the “full” PS I’d “burn-in” the finger slightly until I got a bit of separation. Cropping helped hone-in what might have been your intended composition. Some shots just serve to give you an education—as in, “next time I’d move to this angle,” or “maybe I need a faster shutter speed.” Sometimes you just have to walk away, and reason you did the best you could at that moment in time. Was fun to play with, anyway.



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Oct 7, 2017 18:45:41   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
shuck wrote:
Love street, or candid photography. Trying to learn. Where could I improve here, other than shutter speed and wearing a helmet? Let me have it. I can take it. Love UHH.

You can't see who she is shaking the finger at.....

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Oct 7, 2017 20:06:49   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Acufine3200 wrote:
I’d like to see a few tries in B&W...may possibly gain some tone separation between the finger and face. Intriguing shot. Burn the edges a bit. The frowning, wrinkled faces scream for a slightly grainy effect. Oh yeah...make sure that helmet has a facemask, lol.

Problem is there isn't much tone separation in color; my experience is that B&W almost always results in less tone separation - have to depend more on textures, and there isn't much texture in that part of the image.

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Oct 7, 2017 20:07:45   #
bettis1 Loc: Texas
 
I believe that it is impossible to definitively tell who the hand belongs to from the photograph. It could be the full face woman who is shaking her finger at the photographer or it could belong to the lady in profile who is shaking her finger at the subject of her angst off camera to the left. In either case, neither the subject to the left nor the photographer is going to win that discussion!

Your decision depends upon which woman you focus your gaze upon. It is very much like the classic "faces in profile or wine glass" puzzle.


Bob



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Oct 7, 2017 20:25:48   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
shuck wrote:
Love street, or candid photography. Trying to learn. Where could I improve here, other than shutter speed and wearing a helmet? Let me have it. I can take it. Love UHH.

After thinking about it for awhile, personally I feel the image is incomplete; we could do without the person in the middle, or have the person in the middle plus parts of the two in conflict, but to me this is one combination that doesn't work - it would be better for the protagonists to be near-equally represented.

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Oct 8, 2017 07:28:33   #
millman221
 
I'd like to see the guy on the left.

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