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Oct 7, 2017 10:12:11   #
elliott937 Loc: St. Louis
 
While I'm a regular DSLR user (Canon 5DII), I purchased the Lumix TZ80 this past summer. Due to its unique RAW files, I've purchased Affinity to open my RAW files. And now learning Affinity in addition to using Photoshop.

My question: I shoot RAW on the Lumix TZ80, and was hoping to get "near" image quality compared to my DSLR. I do use L series lenses on the Canon, so I can't expect exact quality match, but I was hoping the Leica lenses would help close the gap. I know there are many Lumix users. Have you found DSLR quality on your small Lumix TZ series?

And thanks, in advance, for your feedback.

Bill in STL.

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Oct 7, 2017 10:36:57   #
MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
 
I can't speak for Lumix as I made the switch to Olympus; what I personally can say is that moving from a larger format to a smaller one means there are going to be some compromises which I feel can be overcome a lot by using the highest quality lens available to you. My future path will also include the Leica lenses as Mucho Dinero becomes available. I have always believed ( its all in the glass ), and I believe that holds true here. My 45mm takes just as nice a portrait on my E-lP1 as it does on my OM1. If you don't need the extra functions spend your money on glass.

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Oct 7, 2017 10:57:45   #
Paul J. Svetlik Loc: Colorado
 
Oh, YES!

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Oct 7, 2017 11:16:45   #
radiojohn
 
The idea that "bigger is better" with sensors may be obsolete soon. Remember when many said the same with 35mm film versus 120 roll film? But 35mm film kept getting better and soon people used it more than 120. We need to consider that sensor technology keeps improving and soon there may be no need for so-called "full frame" sensors. The whole concept of building a sensor size based on the needs of 35mm film lenses will eventually fade as fewer users ever touched such a lens.

DSLR is a term already slowly on it's way out with the coming (finally) of mirrorless cameras. There will always be DSLR enthusiasts, just as there are today with 4x5 cameras. But don't expect the industry to keep making DSLRs. Perhaps some will be made via Kickstarter options. The need o caterso users with DSLR fitting lenses won't last, especially ones from the film era.

Thoughts on this?

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Oct 7, 2017 11:21:29   #
BebuLamar
 
I don't know but there were Lumix camera that was DSLR. An example is the Lumix L-1.

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Oct 7, 2017 11:24:15   #
PixelStan77 Loc: Vermont/Chicago
 
radiojohn wrote:
The idea that "bigger is better" with sensors may be obsolete soon. Remember when many said the same with 35mm film versus 120 roll film? But 35mm film kept getting better and soon people used it more than 120. We need to consider that sensor technology keeps improving and soon there may be no need for so-called "full frame" sensors. The whole concept of building a sensor size based on the needs of 35mm film lenses will eventually fade as fewer users ever touched such a lens.

DSLR is a term already slowly on it's way out with the coming (finally) of mirrorless cameras. There will always be DSLR enthusiasts, just as there are today with 4x5 cameras. But don't expect the industry to keep making DSLRs. Perhaps some will be made via Kickstarter options. The need o caterso users with DSLR fitting lenses won't last, especially ones from the film era.

Thoughts on this?
The idea that "bigger is better" with se... (show quote)

I do not believe DSLR are on the way out with Nikon's D850 FF and D500 DX.

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Oct 7, 2017 14:21:14   #
radiojohn
 
Think in years or decades. Sometime around 1960 a press photographer probably said, "I don't think TLRs are on their way out..look at the new Rolleiflex!"
Now speed up the time scale by 10,000% and you have what is going on today. 8 and 12 MP decent cameras are piling up in thrift stores. That's just 10 years.

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Oct 7, 2017 14:22:43   #
elliott937 Loc: St. Louis
 
We're drifting here. Are there Lumix TZ.. camera users here?

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Oct 7, 2017 17:52:55   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
If you are making relatively small prints (5x7 or smaller), you won't see much difference between images from a Panasonic Lumix camera and images from a DSLR. When I page through my photo albums, with some prints I'm not quite sure from which camera they came from - my Panasonic Lumix or my Nikon DSLR.

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Oct 7, 2017 17:54:53   #
elliott937 Loc: St. Louis
 
Did you print larger than 5x7?

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Oct 7, 2017 21:44:35   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
radiojohn wrote:
The idea that "bigger is better" with sensors may be obsolete soon. Remember when many said the same with 35mm film versus 120 roll film? But 35mm film kept getting better and soon people used it more than 120. We need to consider that sensor technology keeps improving and soon there may be no need for so-called "full frame" sensors. The whole concept of building a sensor size based on the needs of 35mm film lenses will eventually fade as fewer users ever touched such a lens.

DSLR is a term already slowly on it's way out with the coming (finally) of mirrorless cameras. There will always be DSLR enthusiasts, just as there are today with 4x5 cameras. But don't expect the industry to keep making DSLRs. Perhaps some will be made via Kickstarter options. The need o caterso users with DSLR fitting lenses won't last, especially ones from the film era.

Thoughts on this?
The idea that "bigger is better" with se... (show quote)

My experience was that certain photographers, such as those doing portraits, continued to use larger format until they switched to digital. Since they used the same film emulsions, small format films {such as 35mm} would always have a disadvantage with respect to grain, but over time films progressed to the point that you needed to enlarge more than most did in order to see the difference.

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Oct 7, 2017 22:44:34   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
elliott937 wrote:
Did you print larger than 5x7?


Sure, sometimes I print larger than 5x7. With the larger prints, the DSLR prints do appear to have more crisp detail than those from the Lumix.

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Oct 8, 2017 00:08:46   #
elliott937 Loc: St. Louis
 
Thank you rook,
I tend to agree with so many in that sensor size is not the 'tell all', and since my Lumix has Leica lenses, I'd expect better. I'm going to continue practicing with my Lumix TZ80, but also watch here for other Lumix camera experiences.

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Oct 8, 2017 00:15:56   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
elliott937 wrote:
While I'm a regular DSLR user (Canon 5DII), I purchased the Lumix TZ80 this past summer. Due to its unique RAW files, I've purchased Affinity to open my RAW files. And now learning Affinity in addition to using Photoshop.

My question: I shoot RAW on the Lumix TZ80, and was hoping to get "near" image quality compared to my DSLR. I do use L series lenses on the Canon, so I can't expect exact quality match, but I was hoping the Leica lenses would help close the gap. I know there are many Lumix users. Have you found DSLR quality on your small Lumix TZ series?

And thanks, in advance, for your feedback.

Bill in STL.
While I'm a regular DSLR user (Canon 5DII), I purc... (show quote)

All due respect, but expecting a compact, pocket camera to rival a full frame DSLR, is not realistic. Different expectations, different intended uses.

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Oct 8, 2017 00:18:20   #
elliott937 Loc: St. Louis
 
I do agree with you, except in one respect. When paying $400, I was expecting better than what I'm experiencing.

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