ppage Loc: Pittsburg, (San Francisco area)

Who bought this camera? Do you love it? I've read a bunch. I have a Rebel T5I and I am thinking going to a full frame would improve my IQ (image quality, not the other one). The main knocks on the camera seem to be lack of a second card slot (don't care), focus points bunched all in the middle, (don't care too much) no 4K, (don't care). The pros are good low light performance, flippy screen (care a lot) , good IQ, wireless, bluetooth and gps (care). I have the L 24-105, a ff 85 1.8 and a ff pancake 40 2.8 and a tammy 150-600 ff so I do have some lenses. Anyone want to talk me out of this? I shoot wildlife and it is not ideal for that but I was thinking it might be a decent camera for selling stock so I can get more lenses and a 7D III when that ever comes out.

Thanks, I'm braced for it. Do your worst.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

Take the 6DII sales price and consider whether a used 6D or a used 5DIII can be bought for a lower amount and the rest saved or used on another lens. Both of these top-line full frame cameras didn't become sh** just because they're not the current models ... If you mean wildlife as in spray and pray the burst has something good? Agreed, none of these have the burst speed. But, if you mean low-light / high ISO, all three will work with the 5DIII sporting the same AF system the older 1DX was using.

LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY

If a 7DIII is what you are really interested in, but you are also curious about full frame, then I would look around for a good used or refurbished 6D. The 5DIII is also a very good camera, but 6D has slightly better low light performance and will do most of what the 5DIII will, for less money. The auto-focus is it's short coming, but if you, like many people, use single center-point, you'll barely notice the difference. BTW, in shooting wildlife or sports where you will be doing a lot of cropping, a crop sensor, such as your T5I has a distinct advantage over a full frame in IQ. When cropped to the same angle of view even my 30mp 5DIV can't match my 20mp 7DII. Full frame is not the answer to every issue. You may not even like ff after trying it, so, if you are determined to try ff research it thoroughly.

DavidM Loc: New Orleans, LA

For best value, Buy a refurbished 6D.

https://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/eos-6d-body-refurbished

https://petapixel.com/2017/08/14/canon-6d-vs-6d-ii-heres-high-iso-noise-comparison/

papa Loc: Rio Dell, CA

My bag looks like this; Canon 5D Mark III, 7D, Tokina 16-28, Tamrons 24-70, 70-200, 150-600. I am pleased with the IQ of all combinations. P.S. The 7D was recently bought for $450 with 93 clicks in mint condition from FM member. When I was ready to step up from the 5D Mark II, I was considering the 6D also, which is now a bargain, but in the end opted for the 5D Mark III for several reasons. Focus, gapless lenses in the sensor, low-light high ISO, and look at the menu. Two years ago I bought a mint Mark III with 2,200 clicks for $1,860 when they were selling new for $2.400 average. They're being dumped right now by the I've got GAS boys and girls for much less. Check Fred Miranda, ebay, and Craigslist. With a little patience you can pick a cherry, too. At this point I cannot imagine a time I'll want/need another FF beyond the Mark III. Consider this, it's a whole lot more than a 6D.

cthahn

You are the photographer. You make the decision.

amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA

Get an 80D or a 7D Mark II.

Trying to use a full frame camera for wildlife, you would need much bigger, heavier and far more expensive lenses. And you'll likely want to hire someone to help you carry those 8 to 10 lb. lenses and the sturdy tripod you'll be sitting them upon. Alternatively, budget for a golf cart or an ATV.

APS-C is fine... and more than capable of making great shots. 20MP 7D Mark II with it's high quality build and pro-oriented performance or 24MP 80D with almost as good specifications are fully capable of making images for stock photography and would be a significant step up from your T5i in many respects. And, as APS-C cameras (same as your T5i), either of them has a "built in, free 1.6X teleconverter". More reach without the loss of one or two stops of light, like you see with an actual teleconverter.

6DII would be wonderful for some other things... general purpose, urban/street photography, landscape, portraits, to name a few... but not for wildlife/action/sports.

For that purpose you'd be better off buying one of the lower priced APS-C models and putting the money saved toward lens upgrades.

Good luck with the stock photography thing. There are only about 50 or 100 million people doing that these days.

papa Loc: Rio Dell, CA

Have you tried shooting a FF and then cropping to the size of a 1.6 crop sensor? I have and there are plenty of pixels for 13" X 19" prints to be comparably acceptable, yet I too have a 7D to compliment my 5D Mark III.

ppage Loc: Pittsburg, (San Francisco area)

Thank-You, that was a very informative, reasoned and very helpful answer. Makes a lot of sense. Tell you the truth I am holding out for 2018 and the 7D III which I hope like heck is coming.Talked me out the 6D though!

papakatz45 Loc: South Florida-West Palm Beach

Wow, what good advice! He is asking for our opinions he can make the decision. Your advice is sure to help him with that decision.