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Oct 3, 2017 07:41:23   #
Goober Loc: Southeastern PA
 
I attended Octoberfest in Munich a few years ago and there is no way I would drag even my relatively small Sony a6000 around at that event. I would only take a point and shoot if it would fit in my pocket so I view a cellphone camera as a perfect tool for a venue like that. I am often amazed at the images a cellphone camera is capable of.

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Oct 3, 2017 08:54:52   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
wdross wrote:
Based on my observations, anyone thinking that DSLRs are going to come back strong had better get out in the real world and look around. We are going to lose more camera manufactures at some time in the relatively near future.


My observations are about the same. When there is a local event of some kind, there are very few DSLRs. It's 90% cell phone photography. Going back twenty or thirty years, how many people did you see at events with SLRs? People didn't have cell phones, so some would have P&S, but most would not be taking pictures. We think of taking pictures as a normal, every day activity, and we prefer quality cameras. Most people want a quick shot to post and show their friends, and the cell phone does and many more things.

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Oct 3, 2017 10:09:43   #
ddonlewis
 
There is no doubt that the camera world changed with the cell phone. The reality of todays world is that things can change very quickly regardless of how much we may have liked the old product, system etc. I never imagined that digital would ever replace film, but it did. The reality of the print world is that 99.9% of all prints are no bigger that 4 x 6. So most people could care less about 16 x 20 or bigger. When you look at camera sales there is no doubt as to what is happening. Compact camera sales have all but died with the cell phones. Sales of DSLRs and Mirrorless are down. What's the future? Who knows. My guess being a computer guy is that a similar fate could be facing DSLRs/Mirrorless as happened with computers. By that I mean for about 20 years there was this ever growing hunger for more processing power. We went from 64K, 128, 286 etc. Eventually we got to around 2.5Mhz and the market died because people had all the processing power they needed. Well in my opinion the digital market has grown from 1MP to now 24MP is the standard. You can essentially do whatever you need to do with 24MP, which will probably slow significantly future sales. We'll see what happens.

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Oct 3, 2017 10:15:25   #
Rickyb
 
What's FB? Is that like the FBI? Where ever you go you will see people with super DSLRS.

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Oct 3, 2017 10:47:16   #
silverwren Loc: Alabama
 
When I was in Paris four years ago, I was amazed at the number of cell phones and tablets being held up everywhere I went. Someone above described these tourists as fishes moving in schools. Great description. They weren't taking any time to compose just snap, snap, snap. More than once I exchanged meaningful expressions with other DSLR users who were obviously as amazed (and a little entertained) by the frantic activity. I hope they got some decent shots.

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Oct 3, 2017 11:27:04   #
Acountry330 Loc: Dothan,Ala USA
 
I was at a recent car show. I did not see 5 DLSR's. Everyone was using their Cell phone. I do not think I will ever stop using my DLSR.

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Oct 3, 2017 12:37:55   #
Earworms Loc: Sacramento, California
 
wdross wrote:
My wife and I were on an eleven day bus tour of Germany 09/17 to 09/28. Needless to say, there were people from all over the world there to enjoy the Germany sights and beer. The largest percentage of tourist that I could determine were from the Orient.

The largest perecentage of cameras were cellphones and tablets - with or without a selfie stick (~93%), P&S cameras ranging from simple to sophisticated (~5%), followed by interchangeable lense cameras (~2%). Even in our tour group of 42 there were only two interchangeable lense cameras and three sophisticated P&S cameras. Everyone else shot with their cellphones and one tablet.

From the way most were shooting, they were going to be lucky if they got a good picture of themselves and something in the background to identify where they actually were. About a third also took pictures of the places they where at (non-selfies) which more than likely came out better than the selfies. My wife's shots, with a little editing, went straight to her work and personal Facebook pages - and they were pretty good since she took a little time to compose and edit the shots.

Based on my observations, anyone thinking that DSLRs are going to come back strong had better get out in the real world and look around. We are going to lose more camera manufactures at some time in the relatively near future.
My wife and I were on an eleven day bus tour of Ge... (show quote)

Who wants to lug around a big camera when there is so much beer and food to be had? I certainly wouldn't want to accidentally drop my dSLR "glass" into my beer glass.

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Oct 3, 2017 12:45:36   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Rickyb wrote:
What's FB? Is that like the FBI? Where ever you go you will see people with super DSLRS.


The old cop shows, like Dragnet, called it a Mug shot book. They would have witnesses look at mug shots. Now they call it a Facebook - containing pictures of convicted criminals. Of course, I could be wrong about that. Maybe Facebook refers to something else.

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Oct 3, 2017 13:32:50   #
OddJobber Loc: Portland, OR
 
Rongnongno wrote:
PS. You create the type of threads before... here and here... Nothing wrong with that other than you seem to be a guy on a soap box screaming that end of the (photographer's) world is tomorrow.


If he keeps repeating this theme once a year, he may eventually be right.

For myself, even if I'm just one in a thousand, I'll still be there with a DSLR.

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Oct 3, 2017 13:37:24   #
Haydon
 
Seems to be like an invitation for disaster to have an expensive camera and mixing it with beer. At the end of the day I'd be called an "epic failure" with my gear if I brought it. Anyways, I would need my cellphone to call the ambulance. Seems like a wiser choice :)

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Oct 3, 2017 15:45:10   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
I've been to the Oktoberfest in Munich several times and, other than the first hour or two after opening time on weekdays, it is not an ideal place to haul around and operate a large camera. Very crowded with much pushing and shoving going on. Also, the great majority of snap-shooting tourists simply don't own DSLR cameras; they are quite content with the images produced by cell phones and pocket cameras.

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