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Sep 27, 2017 16:01:07   #
rydabyk Loc: Florida Panhandle
 

That's exactly what I was looking for, THANKS! It has confirmed my decision to stay with the 2.8.
Thanks everyone for your help.

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Sep 27, 2017 17:01:49   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
rydabyk wrote:
I have yet to find one comparing them stopped down, it seems that they only want to compare them wide open :(


Here's a comparison:
http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/comparisons/ultrawide/sharpness.htm

Whether you like Ken Rockwell or not, he provides a wealth of information. In this comparison he claims that the 16-35 f/4 is the sharpest at all apertures.

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Sep 27, 2017 17:09:59   #
rydabyk Loc: Florida Panhandle
 
LFingar wrote:
Here's a comparison:
http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/comparisons/ultrawide/sharpness.htm

Whether you like Ken Rockwell or not, he provides a wealth of information. In this comparison he claims that the 16-35 f/4 is the sharpest at all apertures.

I regularly check his reviews, that was one of the things that got me to wondering. That and a podcast from Breakthrough Photography on long exposures. They both call the f/4 the best for landscape and long exposure. My conundrum...

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Sep 27, 2017 22:35:19   #
CO
 
LensTip.com does extensive lens testing. They have tested both of those lenses. I downloaded the charts from their images resolution testing. It looks like the 16-35mm f/2.8 resolves about 44 line pairs per millimeter at lens center when stopped down to f/5.6. The 16-35mm f/4 resolves about 46 line pairs per millimeter at lens center when stopped down to f/4 - f/5.6.

Canon 16-35mm f/2.8L II lens center
Canon 16-35mm f/2.8L II lens center...

Canon 16-35mm f/2.8L II lens edge
Canon 16-35mm f/2.8L II lens edge...

Canon 16-35mm f/4L lens center
Canon 16-35mm f/4L lens center...

Canon 16-35mm f/4L lens edge
Canon 16-35mm f/4L lens edge...

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Sep 28, 2017 07:37:32   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
rydabyk wrote:
Not sure if this is a stupid question or not but, I was wondering about the corner and/or edge sharpness of 2 Canon Lens. The 16-35 f/4 L vs. the Canon 16-35 f/2.8 L II at f/8 to around f/16. I know the f/4 is way sharper wide open vs the f/2.8 but not so sure about smaller apertures. I'm looking mainly for landscape work. I already own the f/2.8 and I'm pretty pleased but from what I've been able to see, the f/4 is way sharper at the edges. I know that landscapes are not normally shot wide open but was wondering if the differences carried through to the smaller apertures.
I hope that makes sense.
Thanks!
Not sure if this is a stupid question or not but, ... (show quote)


I have no experience with either lens, but I have come to trust reviews published by photozone.de.

These two reviews show that you are 100% correct - the F4 version is sharper at all focal lengths and very slightly sharper at F11, though the test doesn't show F16 results for the 2.8 lens, I'd guess that due to diffraction there will be even less of a difference. I don't think that the difference is worth getting the F4 if you already have the F2.8.

http://www.photozone.de/canon_eos_ff/877-canon_1635_4is?start=1
http://www.photozone.de/canon_eos_ff/435-canon_1635_28_5d?start=1

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Sep 28, 2017 07:59:24   #
rydabyk Loc: Florida Panhandle
 
CO wrote:
LensTip.com does extensive lens testing. They have tested both of those lenses. I downloaded the charts from their images resolution testing. It looks like the 16-35mm f/2.8 resolves about 44 line pairs per millimeter at lens center when stopped down to f/5.6. The 16-35mm f/4 resolves about 46 line pairs per millimeter at lens center when stopped down to f/4 - f/5.6.


THANKS!

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Sep 28, 2017 08:03:32   #
rydabyk Loc: Florida Panhandle
 
Gene51 wrote:
I don't think that the difference is worth getting the F4 if you already have the F2.8.


I have an opportunity to trade with no money changing hands. Even though the f/4 is a year newer, it's a tough decision.

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Sep 28, 2017 08:22:41   #
Mary Kate Loc: NYC
 
Selene03 wrote:
Thanks DSMetz, if people don't want to be helpful, they should ignore the posts. The nastiness of some people makes this website less and less useful for anyone who really needs a question answered. I am glad there are still some people here who care.


So right. Pompous and self-serving arrogance from some seem to be a path for them to compensate for their feeling of diminishing sense of self.

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Sep 28, 2017 08:29:08   #
cthahn
 
No

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Sep 28, 2017 08:37:08   #
rydabyk Loc: Florida Panhandle
 
cthahn wrote:
No


???

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Sep 28, 2017 08:38:41   #
MMC Loc: Brooklyn NY
 
SharpShooter wrote:
r, go to, https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=949&Camera=979&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=0&LensComp=412&CameraComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=0
He test Canon equipment. He's the best Canon tester in the business.
In this module you can enter in ANY parameters you want and directly VIEW the differences between to different lenses!
You can also read his review for each lens. His reviews are extremely accurate.
Now STOP whining!!! LoL......, just KIDDING!!!
Have fun
SS
r, go to, https://www.the-digital-picture.com/Revi... (show quote)


I checked this link, it is working for Nikon also. Thank you for the link.

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Sep 28, 2017 08:50:44   #
kymarto Loc: Portland OR and Milan Italy
 
rydabyk wrote:
I have yet to find one comparing them stopped down, it seems that they only want to compare them wide open :(


Go to photozone.de. They have comparisons at all apertures and several focal lengths. The upshot is that from f5.6 on the sharpness is basically the same for both at both center and edges.

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Sep 28, 2017 08:56:11   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
In general a lens is sharper, regardless of brand, 3 stops closed from wide open. At small lens openings like f11 and f16 because of a simple optical principle they are sharper because in addition they have more depth of field. It is also an optical fact that at the small openings lenses are less sharp due to diffraction. I am not very concerned about diffraction and when I need f16 or f22 I just shoot at those apertures.
Sharpness depends a lot on the photographer. The sharpest lens in the world, if there is such a thing, will not give good results if photographic techniques are at fault. All lenses at their sweat f stop using IS or when on a tripod tend to be sharp.

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Sep 28, 2017 10:10:10   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
cthahn wrote:
No


rydabyk wrote:
???


Just ignore cthahn. He is a known troll who frequently posts meaningless and pointless comments.

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Sep 28, 2017 10:18:32   #
billgdyoung Loc: Big Bear City, CA
 
dsmeltz wrote:
The alternative to looking up generalized info on google is to find people with significant interest in the field of interest and ask them.

Now where could the OP find people interested in photography and lens performance in particular with a wide breadth of experience using various camera and lens combinations who might just know something about his specific question???


Anyone here that can think of a place? Obviously mwsilvers does not think UHH is a place where photographers come to share knowledge and seek answers from knowledgeable people..
The alternative to looking up generalized info on ... (show quote)



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