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Sep 20, 2017 10:15:28   #
pelha Loc: middlle of nowhere NY
 
i think i know where it was taken from -- 500px, which i cancelled my subscription a couple of days ago. i haven't seriously copyrighted my images, yet, since i don't sell, but this one is a bit sensitive. i do have the owner's right to sell it. but i suspect they may be a bit unhappy if it floats all over the web. the image has been altered (with lightening, which makes it better) and the ownership, copyright info has been stripped. any suggestion on how to tract its routing would be appreciated. (and a seriously needed learning experience for me, it seems.)
i'll include one of the versions of the image.



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Sep 20, 2017 10:33:59   #
Marionsho Loc: Kansas
 
pelha wrote:
i think i know where it was taken from -- 500px, which i cancelled my subscription a couple of days ago. i haven't seriously copyrighted my images, yet, since i don't sell, but this one is a bit sensitive. i do have the owner's right to sell it. but i suspect they may be a bit unhappy if it floats all over the web. the image has been altered (with lightening, which makes it better) and the ownership, copyright info has been stripped. any suggestion on how to tract its routing would be appreciated. (and a seriously needed learning experience for me, it seems.)
i'll include one of the versions of the image.
i think i know where it was taken from -- 500px, w... (show quote)


I don't think it's to late to register a copyright on the image.
Marion

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Sep 20, 2017 10:39:54   #
catalint Loc: oslo
 
Interesting , and I have no idea , but curious on this thread.
I did not know that you need to register a copyright on pictures. I thought it was enough to mark them as long as I have the originals.
Does everybody who watermark a picture registered it as well somewhere ? Is it not enough if you have the originals and approach the user who used it ?

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Sep 20, 2017 10:52:53   #
rjaywallace Loc: Wisconsin
 
Contact the Forum in question ASAP - there will be some reference on the Forum page to an Admin or Moderator.

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Sep 20, 2017 10:53:54   #
pelha Loc: middlle of nowhere NY
 
Marionsho wrote:
I don't think it's to late to register a copyright on the image.
Marion


which immediately bring up the question of whether i have to copyright all versions. since i don't know from which site this was taken, i don't know which version it is. i did a lot of playing around, since i was very new to digital then. (i only do a little less futzing now since i'm only a little less new to the software now ;-)

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Sep 20, 2017 11:03:45   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
If you use the UHH search tool and limit the results to Copyright in the Links & Resources section, you'll come back with some useful results along with a lot of noise ... Here's three that might help:

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-103824-1.html
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-328596-1.html
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-107190-1.html

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Sep 20, 2017 11:48:32   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
Registering your copyright will not prevent people from taking and using your images. It gives you stronger recourse when that happens.

What you should do first with the present usage is send an email or written notice to the user to "cease and desist" use of your copyrighted image (all images are automatically copyrighted, the moment you take them). Then if they fail to comply, contact the website moderator or administrator. If the website administration doesn't respond, there's further legal action you can take online.

It really doesn't matter where they acquired the image and you only need to register it once. You don't have to track down every usage you've made of the image and individually register each of them.

The image was effectively "published" when you displayed it on 500x. If that was done more than 90 days ago, registering your copyright now would give you somewhat limited recourse. But registered is always better than unregistered. Visit the U.S. Copyright office website for more info (https://copyright.gov/).

You can register a large number of images at one time and for one fee.... Basically you just need to submit "thumbnails" of all images that are large enough to identify the image. This is mostly done online now, but it's also possible to do by mail.

Much as you might hate them, you should put a watermark on your images to help protect them. In fact, I make my watermarks an advertisement of my web galleries. I have hundreds of images "stolen" and used on Facebook and other sites every year and don't worry about it, since they are watermarked. It's not like anyone is profiting off that usage.... and they're effectively giving me free advertising when they display my image with the watermark. I also keep all images displayed online relatively small... no more than 700 or 800 pixels on the longest side. This helps prevent misuse, too.

I also embed copyright ownership information in the EXIF. But that gets stripped off all the time. Some sites do it automatically whenever images are uploaded there. Some image editing and optimization software strips EXIF too, when you "save for the web".

Watermarks and copyright info embedded in the EXIF are "copyright protections". When an image is registered, should there ever be a law suit over misuse of the image, the court can award up to $30,000 per instance for intentional removal of copyright protections. With registered images, this is in addition to other awards the court can make such as usage fees, penalties and recovery of legal costs. Because this can amount to tens of thousands of dollars when images are properly registered, suits over copyright infringement are heard in federal court and intellectual property attorneys will take cases on a contingency basis.

Unregistered images, on the other hand, can only sue for "fair market usage fees". Because the $ amounts don't amount to much in most cases, copyright suits for unregistered images will typically only be heard in small claims court and you'll likely not have legal counsel unless you pay for it yourself out of your pocket. There's no recovering legal fees and court costs with unregistered images. Also no penalties for misuse over and above the "usage fees".

I ain't no attorney... just a photographer. You should consult a knowledgeable intellectual property attorney for further info and advice.

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Sep 20, 2017 12:00:28   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
In what context was the photo posted? Did someone claim it was their photo, or was it posted to comment on it? If it's the latter, it may fall under "fair usage" under copyright law. At any rate, if nobody is making money off it, it may not be feasible to take legal action.

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Sep 20, 2017 17:21:43   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
Google Google Reverse Image Search.

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Sep 20, 2017 20:07:42   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
pelha wrote:
i think i know where it was taken from -- 500px, which i cancelled my subscription a couple of days ago. i haven't seriously copyrighted my images, yet, since i don't sell, but this one is a bit sensitive. i do have the owner's right to sell it. but i suspect they may be a bit unhappy if it floats all over the web. the image has been altered (with lightening, which makes it better) and the ownership, copyright info has been stripped. any suggestion on how to tract its routing would be appreciated. (and a seriously needed learning experience for me, it seems.)
i'll include one of the versions of the image.
i think i know where it was taken from -- 500px, w... (show quote)

When did you shoot this image? How old are you? I ask only because I saw this image in my boss's office in 1977.

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