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Sep 17, 2017 10:14:48   #
jccash Loc: Longwood, Florida
 
JennT wrote:
Last summer I bought a 13 year old grandson a Cannon Rebel with two lenses (around $600.) and almost immediately I learned that he would need a useful computer-- so I bought one for him and his brother--- That said-- ( we were told we needed to spend some of our money or likely loose it ---whatever, I was glad to do this). The 13 year old is now 14--- has learned to use his camera in manual mode and has made some incredibly fine images. We often speak on the phone--he has researched other cameras, has many informed questions, acquired a professional photographer as a mentor ( a fellow church member)-- and I could go on a bit--

He grew from a very frustrated 13 year old to competent, confident youngster! I am very happy that I gave him what he wanted!

One family's experience---
Last summer I bought a 13 year old grandson a Cann... (show quote)


Have him join UHH. Best camera forum out there. We could use some younger people. LOL

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Sep 17, 2017 10:17:28   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
Time for old fogies and their DSLRs to read about teens
https://www.surfnetparents.com/599/best-digital-cameras-for-teens/

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Sep 17, 2017 10:27:13   #
jzehaz Loc: Pleasantville, NY
 
dpullum wrote:
Time for old fogies and their DSLRs to read about teens
https://www.surfnetparents.com/599/best-digital-cameras-for-teens/


Your link is over 9 years old - Adorama and DPR have newer lists for suggested "best" cameras for teenagers.
Hundreds of opinions...

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Sep 17, 2017 10:33:17   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Thomas902 wrote:
"but I told him he should start his Photography adventure on a simpler Camera and learn the basics, Aperture, Shutter, ISO, then as he learns and gains experience, he can, "Move on Up" to more advanced equipment..." Silverman possibly you should have asked him why he is interested in photography, what draws him to this craft and why his isn't interested in a cell phone with a "good" image capturing device? With a any decent IPhone he can open an Instagram account and begin sharing a visual statement with his peers.... No Siverman you are likely seriously flawed with imposing your antiquated value system on his emerging creative talent... DSLR's are for the "Old Folks" Those living in the current generation have moved on to capturing the moment... as the photojournalist of bygone days... at 14 he likely will find the lure of "iPhoneography" far more exciting than what older generations cherish... btw, there are so many "User Friendly" Photography Apps for the iPhone and iOS that he'll be up and running in no time...

Instagram is where it's at now...
UHH is where the old folks go to play with their antique toys of yesteryear...

I wish your grandson all the best on his journey...
"but I told him he should start his Photograp... (show quote)


Holy CRAP, that was rude and uncalled for.

Dennis

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Sep 17, 2017 10:44:35   #
jt54 Loc: South East TN
 
I bought my daughter a Nikon D5500 for her 15th birthday. She loves it and had learned many of the cameras functions well enough to explain them to the mother of one of her friends. One thing I did, as we both got our cameras at the same time, was to download a copy of Moose Winans cheat sheets specific to our cameras. This has shown us how to set up for different circumstances. By doing this we have learned to set up many of our shots by ourselves. This cameras is very user friendly. So, don't be afraid to go this way. Kids will surprise you.

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Sep 17, 2017 10:45:07   #
Boris Ekner Loc: From Sweden, living in Guatemala
 
Silverman wrote:
My Grandson wants a Sony Mirrorless Camera, but I told him he should start his Photography adventure on a simpler Camera and learn the basics, Aperture, Shutter, ISO, then as he learns and gains experience, he can, "Move on Up" to more advanced equipment. Maybe a Bridge Camera would be an idea! Please provide advice I might share with my Grandson.


Here's my answer to a similar question in another thread.

Here's what I did:
-Budget: no more than $500. (This was the most important criteria I had.)
-Searched for $500 DSLR's on eBay & Amazon in order to understand what I might get.
-Found some favorite models that I compared side by side at cameradecision.com. I refused to have any brand preferences.
-I read plenty of reviews on the cameras I found interesting.

My priorities were; very good professional reviews, the highest pixel count possible, RAW format option, wifi, built in GPS, fair prices & f/values on future lenses.

Nikon D5300 turned out to be the final option. With my personal preferences, and budget, it was by far the best option. Price paid: $449 on eBay, including an 18-55mm lens, plus some other (now useless)-stuff in the bundle.

I've had the camera since January 2017, and I have no regrets on my purchase. On the contrary, I'm very happy with what I got for the money spent.

Later I've bought a 55-200mm(used) and a 35mm(used) lenses. A better speed light/flash, a good tripod, petal lens hoods, third party battery grip, extra batteries, twin charger, better/faster memory card, and some other stuff. All from eBay who time after time confirms to have the best prices.

Your best option is probably not my best, and vice versa. It is not about the camera as much as it is about the photographer. Just as a good stove and pan isn't enough to cook you a good dinner, right?

In order to update my knowledge I started off with reading Nikon D5300 For Dummies as well as Stunning Digital Photography by Tony Northrup. The third book was Secrets To The Nikon Autofocus System by Steve Perry, which is my favorite so far. It was all well invested pennies. At the moment I’m reading Understanding Exposure by Bryan Peterson. As knowledge has no weight it is easy to carry...

http://backcountrygallery.com/secrets-nikon-autofocus-system/

Best of luck on your pursuit of your best camera. ...and don't rush it to get one. Take your time, i.e. weeks, to learn about your options and what you favor.

Examples of pictures I've shot are found under my name at 500px.com as well as at Instagram.com. 

500px.com/borisekner/galleries

instagram.com/borisekner

A very informative D5300 Review:
https://sleeklens.com/nikon-d5300-review/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=weekly-blog&substat=blog

PS
I had the same procedure when I looked for, and bought, my sons camera. (He turned 6 at the end of July) The budget was no more than $80, had to be fully automatic, as well as having manual features to grow with as he gets older and if his photo interest persists. Best option: a used Fujifilm Finepix S8600 (it's a bridge camera), for $76 on eBay. 
And there are instructive videos on his camera on YouTube for him to watch later.

PPS
Here’s a different opinion on this issue.
https://petapixel.com/2017/03/24/battle-micro-43-camera-outsold-full-frame-dslr/

---

With courtesy of Jim Stascavage:

"For anyone wondering how big a crop sensor image can go, here is a photo I took with a D7200 a few years ago that makes up a 12'x16' [3.6x4.9 m] wall in our office break room."

-

He shot the picture from another water vessel, while it was moving!

FYI
All Nikon's with cropped 24MP sensors has the same sensor as Jim's D7200.



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Sep 17, 2017 10:52:57   #
jccash Loc: Longwood, Florida
 
I've been thinking about this subject.Why not a Nikon D300s or 300. that is a great camera that many pros used for years. It's in the $500 budget range and your grandkid can learn to shoot great photos with this camera.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/nikon-d300s-/272848764596?hash=item3f870dbeb4:g:RAUAAOSwnSxZghzD
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NIKON-D300-BODY-w-ORIGINAL-BOX-ACCESSORIES-LOOKS-GOOD-WORKS-GREAT-NICE-NIKON-/192306304213?hash=item2cc65954d5:g:Y5QAAOSw0bJZujNv

But I agree the Nikon D5300 is a good deal as well. Had a friend who decided to take photos of his daughter high school graduation and instead of paying a professional decided to buy a Nikon camera and after research he went with the D5300 and the pictures turned out fantastic...

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Sep 17, 2017 11:02:21   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Silverman wrote:
My Grandson wants a Sony Mirrorless Camera, but I told him he should start his Photography adventure on a simpler Camera and learn the basics, Aperture, Shutter, ISO, then as he learns and gains experience, he can, "Move on Up" to more advanced equipment. Maybe a Bridge Camera would be an idea! Please provide advice I might share with my Grandson.


Let him go mirrorless. But have him look at Fujifilm, Olympus, and Panasonic. They and Sony make the best mirrorless gear.

Consider used gear from KEH, Cameta Camera, B&H, or Adorama.

A cheap Nikon or Canon dSLR kit may be okay if budget is important. But it isn't where the future is headed.

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Sep 17, 2017 11:12:52   #
RRS Loc: Not sure
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Another way to look at it, the next time you're in the supermarket picking out a product, have someone come along and put something different in your shopping cart. See how you like that. Let us know how this turns out.


You know what Jerry, if that someone wants to pay for whatever they put in my cart that's fine, if not I'll decide what goes into the cart! I've been reading all of this and I have to ask, where are his mom and dad? I think it's a bunch of crap, "give him what he wants" that's the problem with this world today. If he wanted to learn to drive and I wanted to give him an older car that ran and all he wanted was a BMW, then he could walk. My 12 year old grandson has been going to Yellowstone with us for years, he has gone 5 times now. His interest for photography grew with him looking at the prints we made from each trip. I outfitted him with a Canon 7D with an 18-135 mm kit lens, things we had on hand, he shot 950 shots this June with us. He cuts our grass and then spends time with me learning Canon's DPP and also PS. I made him edit his work when we came home. He switched lenses with my wife and used her 300mm f/2.8 with a 1.4 shooting off a bean bag because he couldn't hold the camera steady enough to get what he wanted. Do you know how great it is to hear a 12 year kid after his first shot in the morning say "darn, need to open up 2/3 of a stop, too dark". Yes he does all of his own settings and he does not use "P" at all.Well he also went out and shot the Thunder Birds and only shot 650 shots but he also did all the editing on those too. The other thing that no one has mentioned is that besides the camera that a computer with the right software is a needed item if someone is really going to learn. I bought my first camera at a yard sale for $5.00 and went on from there, maybe this young man should save some money to offset whatever his grand father is able to spend. I don't know either of them or the situation so this is only my opinion, maybe his mom and dad can't afford to help. Glad that his grand father has an interest in him.

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Sep 17, 2017 11:18:51   #
russchristopher
 
Unless your grandson is a savant already showing a precocious interest in photography, I would recommend a sophisticated P&S, like the Sony DSC-HX80, that sells for less than half the price of an entry level DSLR, has many features in common with the DSLR, and creates very professional photographic effects. And it does not require expensive ad ons. The DSLR world is the opening of a deep money pit. Additional lenses, filter kits, mountable flashes, and after market viewfinders can increase the cost of the camera from a basic $500 body to a $5000 camera bag full
of options. Unless you have an Ansel Adams there, I think the DSLR is an excessive indulgence for a 14 YO. Or, if he wants it bad enough, give him some seed money and let him wash some cars and mow some lawns to earn the rest.

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Sep 17, 2017 11:34:34   #
Rab-Eye Loc: Indiana
 
Thomas902 wrote:

UHH is where the old folks go to play with their antique toys of yesteryear...

I wish your grandson all the best on his journey...


Like the D850?

You must be a lot older than you look, given that you're here with us old folks! 🤔

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Sep 17, 2017 11:43:44   #
ferdhart
 
Buy him a Sony A 6500 and a Zeiss Biogon 2.8/25mm ZM lens with a Novoflex Leica to Sony adapter. Because of his age and presumed computer literacy he will quickly learn the relationships between aperture, speed and ISO. He can skip the film experience. He can learn to be deliberate in composition and focus. He can add other Zeiss MF lenses and use them with the same adapter and eventually, if his interest continues, move up to a full-frame mirrorless Sony.

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Sep 17, 2017 11:48:41   #
Rab-Eye Loc: Indiana
 
ferdhart wrote:
Buy him a Sony A 6500 and a Zeiss Biogon 2.8/25mm ZM lens with a Novoflex Leica to Sony adapter. Because of his age and presumed computer literacy he will quickly learn the relationships between aperture, speed and ISO. He can skip the film experience. He can learn to be deliberate in composition and focus. He can add other Zeiss MF lenses and use them with the same adapter and eventually, if his interest continues, move up to a full-frame mirrorless Sony.


Even an A6000 + kit lens will get the young fellow off to a good start for less money, until it's clear this is not a temporary infatuation.

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Sep 17, 2017 12:12:22   #
OviedoPhotos
 
Has he taken an art class or two? Since photography is "art with light" this would help him. My uncle gave me a brownie camera, which I still have, in the late 60's along with taking me to an art class. The class helped me to compose the photos better. Back then this was in days of 15 exposure rolls of 126. Although one can chimp with digital it still pays to compose the shot.

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Sep 17, 2017 12:21:56   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
RRS wrote:
You know what Jerry, if that someone wants to pay for whatever they put in my cart that's fine, if not I'll decide what goes into the cart! I've been reading all of this and I have to ask, where are his mom and dad? I think it's a bunch of crap, "give him what he wants" that's the problem with this world today. If he wanted to learn to drive and I wanted to give him an older car that ran and all he wanted was a BMW, then he could walk. My 12 year old grandson has been going to Yellowstone with us for years, he has gone 5 times now. His interest for photography grew with him looking at the prints we made from each trip. I outfitted him with a Canon 7D with an 18-135 mm kit lens, things we had on hand, he shot 950 shots this June with us. He cuts our grass and then spends time with me learning Canon's DPP and also PS. I made him edit his work when we came home. He switched lenses with my wife and used her 300mm f/2.8 with a 1.4 shooting off a bean bag because he couldn't hold the camera steady enough to get what he wanted. Do you know how great it is to hear a 12 year kid after his first shot in the morning say "darn, need to open up 2/3 of a stop, too dark". Yes he does all of his own settings and he does not use "P" at all.Well he also went out and shot the Thunder Birds and only shot 650 shots but he also did all the editing on those too. The other thing that no one has mentioned is that besides the camera that a computer with the right software is a needed item if someone is really going to learn. I bought my first camera at a yard sale for $5.00 and went on from there, maybe this young man should save some money to offset whatever his grand father is able to spend. I don't know either of them or the situation so this is only my opinion, maybe his mom and dad can't afford to help. Glad that his grand father has an interest in him.
You know what Jerry, if that someone wants to pay ... (show quote)


I I were interested in photography as a youth and had researched what I wanted and some old worthless fart thought I should have some other POC just because they thought they knew better I would hate it.

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